Mikki Moore's field-shooting %

[Mozart]

His play thus far this season, though, has looked nothing short of 100 percent, as he entered play on Tuesday ranked second on the Kings in field-goal percentage (48.5 percent, trailing only forward Mikki Moore), leading the team in three-point percentage (47.1 percent) and trailing only shooting guard Kevin Martin in scoring (22.3 points per game).

http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/544195.html


How about that!?


"A terrible signing" does not get a 2nd place in field-goal % on a known shooting team. He is better than most fans give him credit for. I've been watching his play and he's doing a lot of the little things that helps the team, besides creating his high-shooting %.


Granted, he does not take a lot of shots--that's not his job, so it is to his credit that he appears to be quite efficient with his shooting when he is in positions to make those shots with open looks. A slashing or posting Moore is a good thing.


I think the evidence so far makes it clear that Mikki Moore was a good signing, afterall.

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[Backlash]

Why? Because he dunks all the time? Or drops in two foot hook shots?

Want him to rebound and block more shots for that position...could care less about a shooting percentage for a guy who is floating under the basket and getting dump off passes for easy dunks.

Should be a higher % than that.

 

[Mozart]

No floating...running

..could care less about a shooting percentage for a guy who is floating under the basket and getting dump off passes for easy dunks.

I don't see Mikki "floating under the basket"--I frequently see him running to a position under the basket and quickly getting quick passes--frequently from Artest, no less--for those "easy" dump/dunk shots. I'll take those easy dump/dunk shots over jumpshots, anyday.


His game does have room for improvement, of course, and I fully expect him to make that improvement happen, especially now that K-Mart is out for over a month--not only does Mikki need to step up his game, but the entire team as well.


It is important that each team member remembers that to win takes a team, not individual players doing heroic one-on-one plays...not to say that efficacious one-on-ones are to be disregarded as a valuable part of the repertoire of a successful team.

 

[ZZE916]

I think the evidence so far makes it clear that Mikki Moore was a good signing, afterall.

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I can't go that far. He has improved to the point of being servicable, but at this point I can't say it was a good signing. If you are dunking and shooting 4 foot jumpers, I would expect nothing less than a high percentage.

 

[piksi]

Mikki Moore and 17 million and good signing in one sentence - come on now

 

[Bricklayer]

Mikki Moore pretty much just sucks, and the numbers are just that in this case.

And if you can't see that, you just can't see.

However, Mikki Moore knows he sucks, and over his career has found ways to blend in and be a roleplayer behind the guys who can actually play. Mikki Moore isn't a good scorer -- he has very few offensive skills. What he is is a guy who knows that he's not, and who waits for a teammate to perfectly set him up for a dunk or wide open shot. Hence he sucks every bit as bad as Kenny or old Reef, but he is the roleplayer who can suck that bad and still blend, as opposed to the other guys who cannot. There is a lesson there for us who have long seemed to avoid roleplayers like the plague.

Put it this way -- if teams guarded Mikki Moore the way they guard Carlos Boozer he would be held scoreless every night. Why? Because Boozer can really play. And Mikki cannot. But Mikki uses his head and knows that they aren't going to guard him that way,that they are going to forget about him and leave him open, and then he takes advnatage. Hence a high FG% indicative of nothing at all except intelligent application. He should actually be contracturally required to donate half of his points to Ron Artest and Brad Miller, because they do almost all his scoring for him.

And none of the above will ever ever EVER make him a good signing for our team at age 33 for $6mil a year reducing our frontcourt kids to garbagetime minutes. Turns out having the MLE would have got you 25yr old Anderson Varejao for $6mil a year as well.

P.S. and as far as "stepping it up", there is no "step up". Mikki has been in the league a long long time being Mikki Moore. This is it.

 

[Jerryaki]

aww, come on! mikki's got the second best FG% on the team, and an excellent 23rd amongst forward-centers! he is totally worth the money.

mikke moore: any questions?!

 

[Superman]

And none of the above will ever ever EVER make him a good signing for our team at age 33 for $6mil a year reducing our frontcourt kids to garbagetime minutes. Turns out having the MLE would have got you 25yr old Anderson Varejao for $6mil a year as well.

I never understood why we gave this guy a contract in the first place, especially at $6 million a year. Gadzooks.

 

[ZZE916]

There was a great quote from Mikki in today's Sac Bee: "A lot of people are still writing us off, but watch for us. We're not going anywhere."

He is correct, but not in the sense I believe he intended...

 

[diggining]

Mikki Moore knows his role and plays within it. One thing you can't criticize about him is that he takes bad shots.

Whether the Kings envisioned him in that role he has taken up when they signed him to that contract, however, is more questionable.

 

[Les Jepsen Fan]

I wouldn't call this a terrible signing. For a PF who had a "breakout" year last year and led the NBA in FG%, $6M/yr isn't too bad. Yes, he's up there in age, and yes, he owes Kidd for half his money, but he was still the best FA big available to us for the MLE (Sideshow Bob was not an option).

For all his faults, Mikki plays within himself and has a high BBall IQ. You can say he's being fed by his teammates, but he has the understanding to be at the right place at the right time, to cut when he needs to cut and to cut off the lane to take charges. That's smart basketball. He has an elbow 18 footer and shoots the FT very well. This is a guy who, at least, brings energy and emotion to an energy-less, emotionless PF position, post - Webber.

 

[Smills91]

I'd just like to see him catch some fairly simple passes. He'd cut down on 1-2 to's a game, increase his scoring 4-5 points a game, increase his FG% due to the fact he'd have 1-2 more dunks per game and the Kings would add 1-2 more assists to their team totals. Him dropping catchable passes is just downright retarded.

 

[Smills91]

Mikki Moore pretty much just sucks, and the numbers are just that in this case.

And if you can't see that, you just can't see.

However, Mikki Moore knows he sucks, and over his career has found ways to blend in and be a roleplayer behind the guys who can actually play. Mikki Moore isn't a good scorer -- he has very few offensive skills. What he is is a guy who knows that he's not, and who waits for a teammate to perfectly set him up for a dunk or wide open shot. Hence he sucks every bit as bad as Kenny or old Reef, but he is the roleplayer who can suck that bad and still blend, as opposed to the other guys who cannot. There is a lesson there for us who have long seemed to avoid roleplayers like the plague.

Put it this way -- if teams guarded Mikki Moore the way they guard Carlos Boozer he would be held scoreless every night. Why? Because Boozer can really play. And Mikki cannot. But Mikki uses his head and knows that they aren't going to guard him that way,that they are going to forget about him and leave him open, and then he takes advnatage. Hence a high FG% indicative of nothing at all except intelligent application. He should actually be contracturally required to donate half of his points to Ron Artest and Brad Miller, because they do almost all his scoring for him.

And none of the above will ever ever EVER make him a good signing for our team at age 33 for $6mil a year reducing our frontcourt kids to garbagetime minutes. Turns out having the MLE would have got you 25yr old Anderson Varejao for $6mil a year as well.

P.S. and as far as "stepping it up", there is no "step up". Mikki has been in the league a long long time being Mikki Moore. This is it.

No it wouldn't, it'd get the Cavs to match it. And honestly, Varejao is TERRIBLE. He's VASTLY overrated. I'd say Mikki Moore > Varejao...that's how bad that guy is.

 

[Jerryaki]

would've been happier picking up someone from the D-league for a fraction of the cost. having the MLE doesn't require you to use it every year. moore is a semi-productive player, but all we really needed this year was a warm body and to develop the younger players.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Granted, he does not take a lot of shots--that's not his job...

Then what IS his job, because he's not a rebounder at all?? 17 million for 7-10pts a game...yeah...um...great

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

...Varejao is TERRIBLE. He's VASTLY overrated. I'd say Mikki Moore > Varejao...that's how bad that guy is.

and THAT'S scary, isnt it??

 

[Andriod_KiNg]

Simply the guy has picked it up, he sparks us when needed, ie those dunks before the half , they where big, his defense is solid, his help defense is even better, he can block shots, he can actually DUNK the ball around the rim, he may not be the best rebounder but he can grab them when needed, hes a spark plug type of player that we lacked since the days of Bo-Jax/Keon Clark and such, im glad to have him on our team.

 

[kupman]

No it wouldn't, it'd get the Cavs to match it. And honestly, Varejao is TERRIBLE. He's VASTLY overrated. I'd say Mikki Moore > Varejao...that's how bad that guy is.

....and of the two, who has the hair that is most inexplicable?

 

[Padrino]

No it wouldn't, it'd get the Cavs to match it. And honestly, Varejao is TERRIBLE. He's VASTLY overrated. I'd say Mikki Moore > Varejao...that's how bad that guy is.

varejao may be overrated, but he's not "terrible." he's a high energy scrapper, and he crashes the boards. he tries to play beyond his ability, but with time, he can learn to play more under control. and more to the point, the major difference between varejao and moore is AGE. moore is 33 years old, playing at the MLE. varejao is 25, could possibly be signed for approximately the MLE, with the potential to improve and settle into a well-defined role.

 

[Bricklayer]

And now back to our regularly scheduled reality TV:

Mikki "what a bargain" Moore 07-08:
26.4min 6.8pts 4.8reb 0.4blk .522FG%

Shareef "Washed up" Abdur-Rahim 06-07:
25.2min 9.9pts 5.0reb 0.5blk .474FG%

Kenny "He Sucks" Thomas 06-07:
22.8min 5.3pts 6.1reb 0.3blk .482 FG%



I just don't want to hear it. Mikki's great gift is self promotion, waving his arms and glowering as if there were a single guy over 6'0" in the NBA who couldn't kick his scrawny butt, and yelling "and 1" every single time he shoots. He is the yippy runt in the back of the pack always yapping about how his bigger/better friends are going to kick your ***. Meanwhile his production is every bit as pathetic as anything else we have had at that position in the last three years. As a role player he can get his without actively interfering with everybody else getting theirs, unlike the other guys we've had there. That is his value -- stays out of the way, and in the absence of doing any fo the big things, does some of the little ones (picks, taking charges). Being a role player is an honorable trade in the NBA...but not at $6mil per on a rebuilding team. And 6.8pts 4.8rebs 0.4blks in 26+min is...quite possibly the worst starting PF in the league. I would have to go around and check. But its hard to imagine anybody much worse than that.

 

[C Diddy]

Moore's shooting percentage is actually better then 48.5%. Whoever is the focus of that blurb has the 48.5%. Regardless, Moore's FG% is still very mediocre among PF. There is no fewer then 20 PF who play significant minutes that better than Moore and no fewer than another 10-15 who are within .20% of Moore's FG shooting. Moore is an average PF at best who plays average defense and is an average scorer and rebounder. About the only thing not average about him is FT%. He is a decent FT shooter for any position, let alone a big man.

Is a mediocre PF at 33 years old worth 6mill per? I'd say no.

 

[Glenn]

Moore's shooting percentage is actually better then 48.5%. Whoever is the focus of that blurb has the 48.5%. Regardless, Moore's FG% is still very mediocre among PF. There is no fewer then 20 PF who play significant minutes that better than Moore and no fewer than another 10-15 who are within .20% of Moore's FG shooting. Moore is an average PF at best who plays average defense and is an average scorer and rebounder. About the only thing not average about him is FT%. He is a decent FT shooter for any position, let alone a big man.

Is a mediocre PF at 33 years old worth 6mill per? I'd say no.

He is paid $5,360,000 this year which is about average for the league and below average for big men. Is an average man worth an average salary?

 

['89 Kings Fan]

moore is 33 years old, playing at the MLE. varejao is 25, could possibly be signed for approximately the MLE, with the potential to improve and settle into a well-defined role.

The thing about Mikki is he does not have a lot of miles on those skinny legs. He has only played 400 games in 12 years. Varejao though led the league in Charges drawn last season. I bet in a few years Varejao will come down with "Pollard" syndrome ie. a bad back. But it is rather a moot point Varejao < Mikki < Below average PF (Nick Collison)

I would also propose that the Mikki Signing is the worst move Petrie has ever made. By signing him it pushes us well into the Luxury tax next season when Martin's extension kicks in. This could lead us to be forced to make a Kurt Thomas like trade.

Secondly, Mikki is 164th in the NBA PER. 30 Teams x 5 Starters = 150 Players. Ouch. The only starters he beats are Quentin Richardson, Larry Hughes and Kirk Hinrich.

Lastly, is there any reason why we would not have been better server with Justin, Kenny and some other 3rd Tier free agent. Brandon Bass only got 2 Million over 2 Years and Jamaal Magloire only got 4 Million for 1 Year.

 

[Alacron]

Every time Mikki drops another ball, I can't help but think...

They look like good, strong hands, don't they?
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[C Diddy]

He is paid $5,360,000 this year which is about average for the league and below average for big men. Is an average man worth an average salary?

My mistake. I said his scoring and rebounding were average. He is below average in RPG and PPG amongst PF who average near 30min per game.

 

[Prophetess]

Every time Mikki drops another ball, I can't help but think...

They look like good, strong hands, don't they?​

gotta love the rock biter.

I personally think about Orlando Jones in the Replacements.

You know, the scene where they put stuff on his hands to help him catch the ball.