Maloofs say they're willing to pay the two L.A. teams whatever it takes to relocte
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Exactly. They've been accused of wanting to move the team practically from day one. People said they shouldn't try and blackmail the city into anything. If they'd ever given a "drop dead date" those people would've said, "See we we're right all along, they weren't committed to Sacramento.
Oops, too late.....people are saying that here in these threads, even though the Maloofs have done everything but beg for a new arena for 10 years and Thomas for several years before that. This year isn't even the first time they've admitted that other cities call them about the Kings. They've said that for at least the last two years. I guess some people need to be hit in the head with a blunt object before they realize it's serious. It's been serious for years, folks. Anyone in Sacramento who didn't realize this a long time ago are living in more of a lala land than Lakers fans.
Who needs a drop dead date? We've known for 14 years this could happen. Fourteen friggin' years!!!! You mean to tell me that wasn't enough warning they would have to leave? Unbelievable. It's actually beyond incredible that they've kept the team here this long, waiting on the city to get off their duffs and do something concrete.
Oops, too late.....people are saying that here in these threads, even though the Maloofs have done everything but beg for a new arena for 10 years and Thomas for several years before that. This year isn't even the first time they've admitted that other cities call them about the Kings. They've said that for at least the last two years. I guess some people need to be hit in the head with a blunt object before they realize it's serious. It's been serious for years, folks. Anyone in Sacramento who didn't realize this a long time ago are living in more of a lala land than Lakers fans.
Who needs a drop dead date? We've known for 14 years this could happen. Fourteen friggin' years!!!! You mean to tell me that wasn't enough warning they would have to leave? Unbelievable. It's actually beyond incredible that they've kept the team here this long, waiting on the city to get off their duffs and do something concrete.
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kennadog,
I can't say any of that because I'm not a native. I get that. No ill feelings because of it; I don't know how the natives feel, and never can. That said, I think you're waaay past hitting the nail on the head. You've beat the head off this nail several posts ago, and now you're just hammering for effect. It can't be said any clearer.
I can't say any of that because I'm not a native. I get that. No ill feelings because of it; I don't know how the natives feel, and never can. That said, I think you're waaay past hitting the nail on the head. You've beat the head off this nail several posts ago, and now you're just hammering for effect. It can't be said any clearer.
Did anyone else catch the truly tacky "joke" that Jim Crandell pulled last night?
My Gawd, what a jerk, and a hack, and insensitive lout. And yeah, that's coming from me.
http://www.sacramentopress.com/head...ays_Cruel_Prank_On_Kings_Fans_Through_Twitter
My Gawd, what a jerk, and a hack, and insensitive lout. And yeah, that's coming from me.
http://www.sacramentopress.com/head...ays_Cruel_Prank_On_Kings_Fans_Through_Twitter
My view as a season ticket holder for 21 years is way different. If they came out at the begining of the season and said we need an arena deal by march 1st in place or we will file and look at our options then fine. To work in the background on a deal and then extend the deadline is more upsetting. To me the only reason they dont come out and say it is they are worried they will lose ticket sales this year. And I'm feeling more and more like they wanted the extension for the same reason. This to me is crapping on the the people who have supported the team for 26 years. If your going to move then make the dam decison and get it over with. What they are doing to the fans and the city right now is wrong. And it makes them look like greedy bastards. The only reason I havent asked for my money back is the slim hope that the anaheim deal falls through. I think with the over $225,000k spent on the team over the 21 years deserves better treatment, no matter what they think of the city. I thought they put their customers first.
What the hell is wrong with Crandell? Didn't see that until just now. His analysis is a complete joke, but I've always put up with it. But he thinks pulling this type of **** is funny? He should get canned for that.I wouldn't tolerate that kind of humor at all. Plus, the Bee, as well as MSE(when they let Kayte C go), have let some very intelligent people go, who new basketball very well.
Now we have this clown, who has one of the most uniformative shows I;ve ever listened to, displaying this kind of humor?
Looks like he deleted the tweet. What an a**.
Now we have this clown, who has one of the most uniformative shows I;ve ever listened to, displaying this kind of humor?
Looks like he deleted the tweet. What an a**.
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Speculation and assumes to know the Maloof's motives. It's entirely possible that they've had a deal in place for a long time and filed the extension in order to prevent attendance from plummeting even further than it already is. That's speculation on my part too of too of course but my point is since we don't know what they're doing, we shouldn't rule out anything or assume to know for certain what their motives are.
Actually, rather than looking greedy, I don't see a move to Anaheim as exactly an ideal move. It smacks more of desperation to me.
Let's say that talks with Anaheim heated up and they announced their intent to leave early in the season. How would your feelings toward the Maloofs change? Would it really have made that much difference? They wouldn't have been obligated to refund money on already sold tickets. The deal was 41 games and there still would have been 41 games. (I know, it still sucks.)
As to more or less ticket sales, I think some people wouldn't go, but I think there would be people who would go, because it would be the last chance to see them play in Sacramento, not to mention players from other teams playing in Sacramento for the last time.
I honor the commitment to the franchise you have made by being a season ticket holder for so many years and I thank all the loyal season ticket holders. You all are among the reasons that helped keep this franchise in Sacramento for all these years. It adds an extra layer of feelings of betrayal, too, I'm sure. I just think the anger and pain would have been just as great no matter when the decision was announced. I guess we'll never know, if it could have been handled in a less painful way.
I am not defending everthing the Maloofs have done. I just don't think they should bear all the blame for this. Be mad at the Maloofs, but I can't understand not being mad at the city, too. Now they are talking about a "regional"
effort for an arena and joining forces. Where was this cooperation years ago? We've had a long time to get something going and the city and region just failed miserably.
I keep reminding myself that we probably didn't think about the pain of fans in Kansas City, when Sacramento celebrated getting an NBA franchise. Eerily similar circumstances. Team doing poorly, owners sell the franchise after the 79-80 season to Sacramento owners. Low attendenace and a dismal record in 84-85 and the owners move the team to Sacramento, which we know was really Lukenbill's intent all along). I believe that move wasn't announced until after the end of the season. Maybe its karma catching up to us. *sigh*
Let's say that talks with Anaheim heated up and they announced their intent to leave early in the season. How would your feelings toward the Maloofs change? Would it really have made that much difference? They wouldn't have been obligated to refund money on already sold tickets. The deal was 41 games and there still would have been 41 games. (I know, it still sucks.)
As to more or less ticket sales, I think some people wouldn't go, but I think there would be people who would go, because it would be the last chance to see them play in Sacramento, not to mention players from other teams playing in Sacramento for the last time.
I honor the commitment to the franchise you have made by being a season ticket holder for so many years and I thank all the loyal season ticket holders. You all are among the reasons that helped keep this franchise in Sacramento for all these years. It adds an extra layer of feelings of betrayal, too, I'm sure. I just think the anger and pain would have been just as great no matter when the decision was announced. I guess we'll never know, if it could have been handled in a less painful way.
I am not defending everthing the Maloofs have done. I just don't think they should bear all the blame for this. Be mad at the Maloofs, but I can't understand not being mad at the city, too. Now they are talking about a "regional"
effort for an arena and joining forces. Where was this cooperation years ago? We've had a long time to get something going and the city and region just failed miserably.
I keep reminding myself that we probably didn't think about the pain of fans in Kansas City, when Sacramento celebrated getting an NBA franchise. Eerily similar circumstances. Team doing poorly, owners sell the franchise after the 79-80 season to Sacramento owners. Low attendenace and a dismal record in 84-85 and the owners move the team to Sacramento, which we know was really Lukenbill's intent all along). I believe that move wasn't announced until after the end of the season. Maybe its karma catching up to us. *sigh*
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I don't want to diminish what fans of KC felt but their city had already established themselves quite nicely as a major league team with NFL and MLB franchises (Royals were quite good then if I recall) and the NBA was just really coming into its own as a major sport at the time (not to mention they have one of the all time top 5 college programs in the region). So while it must have been truly devastating to the fans of the team it wasn't a dagger to the heart of the city the way a Kings move would be.
I agree to some extent and maybe they weren't a big enough market for 3 pro teams, although they would love to have get the Kings back. The mayor said they should never have let them go.
That's one of the reasons I don't see Seattle's situation as similar to Sacramento, either, in that respect. They have MLB and NFL franchises and the city helped build new facilities for both of those teams. Sacramento's situation would be more like Salt Lake or Portland losing their NBA franchises.
That's one of the reasons I don't see Seattle's situation as similar to Sacramento, either, in that respect. They have MLB and NFL franchises and the city helped build new facilities for both of those teams. Sacramento's situation would be more like Salt Lake or Portland losing their NBA franchises.
Those are probably the best comparisons of NBA cities but I think both SLC and Portland could rebound quicker and attract another pro team (and both have MLS which could be big time in another 2 or 3 world cup cycles) where Sacramento might take decades. The closest thing I can think of is Hartford losing the Whalers in the NHL.
What deal? There is absolutely nothing in writing and no signed contract to this effect. And if that is the case then there might be something in contract law that says the maloofs would need to give notice to end the contracts. Which could mean they would have to do it while still here. Moving could be considered a violation of that contract without proper notice.
But in the past I know they have refunded season ticket holders money. After the Artest trade I know a few did and friend ened up getting to choose from several different seat locations for season tickets.
But in the past I know they have refunded season ticket holders money. After the Artest trade I know a few did and friend ened up getting to choose from several different seat locations for season tickets.
Not being a season ticket holder, I don't have access to any "contract" or written guarantee you might have been given. However, I would assume that the implied contract is that you get X number of tickets for evey home game in seat that are specified as to section, row and seat numbers. A buyer would get those tickets for one season, no more no less.
Maybe Brick or another lawyer around here could answer, but if they give you what you paid for for that entire season, I don't see how they could be considered as having broken a contract, implied or otherwise, unless they failed to give you the number of games you paid for or failed to give you the seats you paid for, even if they announced the move early in the season. The contract wopuld essentially be in effect until the end of the season. They wouldn't be terminating anything early.
Having said that, I have no doubt the Maloofs have given refunds to some season ticket holders as a gesture of good will and the hopes that they will still remain customers.
Having said all that, facing the loss of the team is a terrible event. I can understand the anger and betrayal many feel and especially the people who have opened their heart and pocketbook to this team. It hurts me in a way I can't really talk about or think about for long. When the move happens, it will really deeply hurt and for quite a while. I just hope the Anaheim deal falls through and the city get one year to get it together and mnake a deal.
I just happen to be more angry at the city for doing nothing for 14 years. As soon as Thomas started talking to the city about getting a new arena, the fans were on borrowed time and totally dependent on the city to get a deal done to keep the team here.Me personally, I just can't get really angry at the Maloofs. We had plenty of warning that this would happen (14 years worth), I guess no one wanted to believe it.
Maybe Brick or another lawyer around here could answer, but if they give you what you paid for for that entire season, I don't see how they could be considered as having broken a contract, implied or otherwise, unless they failed to give you the number of games you paid for or failed to give you the seats you paid for, even if they announced the move early in the season. The contract wopuld essentially be in effect until the end of the season. They wouldn't be terminating anything early.
Having said that, I have no doubt the Maloofs have given refunds to some season ticket holders as a gesture of good will and the hopes that they will still remain customers.
Having said all that, facing the loss of the team is a terrible event. I can understand the anger and betrayal many feel and especially the people who have opened their heart and pocketbook to this team. It hurts me in a way I can't really talk about or think about for long. When the move happens, it will really deeply hurt and for quite a while. I just hope the Anaheim deal falls through and the city get one year to get it together and mnake a deal.
I just happen to be more angry at the city for doing nothing for 14 years. As soon as Thomas started talking to the city about getting a new arena, the fans were on borrowed time and totally dependent on the city to get a deal done to keep the team here.Me personally, I just can't get really angry at the Maloofs. We had plenty of warning that this would happen (14 years worth), I guess no one wanted to believe it.