kingsfan52miller
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dont know which one but he is on right now!!
Edit: Joe Maloof
Edit: Joe Maloof
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hoops4kings
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Yah I'm listening. He's saying that the decision was not made when he talked to Rick. Sounds like BS.
kingsfan52miller
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agreed!hoops4kings said:
Rockmeister
All-Star
Joe Maloof on right now on 1140
Mike and Grant are starting to interview Joe Maloof. Joe states he wants to set the record straight with the fans.
Joe states that they don't go on with a decision unless everyone agrees with it.
Joe states he appreciates Rick with what he did with the franchise. He respects Rick. However, Joe states he wasn't really happy at the beginning of the season, that's when he states he started to think about the direction.
Joe states he wants to bring the title to this city.
Mike Lam asked Joe who are the candidates for the coaching position. Joes really didn't answer the question. Joe states he really has no idea who they are going to get.
Joe states he wanted to go in a different direction.
Joe states that Rick is a great coach and they are proud of Rick.
That's all I have because I had to answer my phone.
Mike and Grant are starting to interview Joe Maloof. Joe states he wants to set the record straight with the fans.
Joe states that they don't go on with a decision unless everyone agrees with it.
Joe states he appreciates Rick with what he did with the franchise. He respects Rick. However, Joe states he wasn't really happy at the beginning of the season, that's when he states he started to think about the direction.
Joe states he wants to bring the title to this city.
Mike Lam asked Joe who are the candidates for the coaching position. Joes really didn't answer the question. Joe states he really has no idea who they are going to get.
Joe states he wanted to go in a different direction.
Joe states that Rick is a great coach and they are proud of Rick.
That's all I have because I had to answer my phone.
hoops4kings
Bench
LOL! Now he's insinuating that a new coach can get Miller and Bibby to play defense. He said that he didn't agree with Rick or the coaching staff that they didn't have defense able players. Ha!
Rockmeister
All-Star
Wow. Joe thinks that the Kings are the 3rd best team in the West other than San Antonio and Dallas.
Tmassfan4life
G-League
bozzwell said:How can you tell? I've been listening to them on TV and Radio for years and they always sound as if they are BS-ing. How canyou tell if they are really BS-ing now?
Because he sucks ***. Mike Lamb is pushing it alittle. I like it.
DocHolliday
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hoops4kings said:
Sorry you or I don't know that either way for sure. Don't be bitter folks.
DocHolliday said:
Nope, we don't know for sure. But if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck...
Are you listening? If so, why not post your impressions of what Joe is saying? Does it sound sincere to you? hoops4kings thinks it sounds like BS. That's one opinion. Instead of simply trying to deny his/her right to have the opinion, post one of your own...
Circa_1985_Fan
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HAHA! Well, neither could Bill Laimbeer or Bill Walton, but they mopped up the floor defensively all the damn time...hell, Luc Walton and Bill Wennington played better defense than them.Sirius said:
SacTownKid
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ReinadelosReys
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Well I for one agree that he was completely BSing, He said they thought that Rick did a good job yada yada yada and that they made the decision after the season and why prolong it now? Pure BS espescially when we had Elston Turner on no more than 20 min before hand saying that they new something was up. In past years when they were up for renewal they had recieved some indication that they would be resigning, but this time around they were pretty much lame-duck coaches.
And how he "respectfully disagrees" with the notion that you don't necessarily need defensive players to play championship caliber defense is a bunch of hooey. You can't fit square pegs into round holes. You can sure try, but you will only get so far. The addition of Ron Artest and the immediate improvement in our defense is live proof of that.
I don't need someone to come in and sugarcoat this, but I appreciate that they aren't hiding. They also pretty much cememnted the fact that this was a Maloof deision and not a Geoff Petrie decision. He said that after talking with Rick he met with Gavin and then the rest of the family and decided it. Geoff as far I am concerned cannot really be blamed for this. He can only do what he can do and ultimately has to answer to them.
He also said that they want a coach before the draft, so hopefully we aren't speculating for much of the summer.
And how he "respectfully disagrees" with the notion that you don't necessarily need defensive players to play championship caliber defense is a bunch of hooey. You can't fit square pegs into round holes. You can sure try, but you will only get so far. The addition of Ron Artest and the immediate improvement in our defense is live proof of that.
I don't need someone to come in and sugarcoat this, but I appreciate that they aren't hiding. They also pretty much cememnted the fact that this was a Maloof deision and not a Geoff Petrie decision. He said that after talking with Rick he met with Gavin and then the rest of the family and decided it. Geoff as far I am concerned cannot really be blamed for this. He can only do what he can do and ultimately has to answer to them.
He also said that they want a coach before the draft, so hopefully we aren't speculating for much of the summer.
SacTownKid
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They want to bring a title to Sacramento, good enough for me.
PixelPusher
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Rockmeister said:
(flashback to Mariucci firing)
ParniValjak
All-Star
I downloaded the interview and in all honesty I think he was BSing a lost and he was very defensive and quite aggressive at one point.
He can sugar coat it as much as he likes but I am not buying it.
He can sugar coat it as much as he likes but I am not buying it.
BigWaxer
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I think its obvious why RA got fired by the way Joe replied to the question about defense. Whether they are right or wrong about the issue that seems to be the question I sensed the most emotion on.
I don't believe the part were he said they didn't know until after the season. I think they planned this ahead of time just by the answers in some of the playoff interviews. I actually think the deal was sealed last year after our playoff debacle. So let me get this straight, RA called and within a couple hours time the family got together, had a pow wow and decided to break out the hammer.
I also hope it's not like they said and they actually have a plan.
I don't believe the part were he said they didn't know until after the season. I think they planned this ahead of time just by the answers in some of the playoff interviews. I actually think the deal was sealed last year after our playoff debacle. So let me get this straight, RA called and within a couple hours time the family got together, had a pow wow and decided to break out the hammer.
I also hope it's not like they said and they actually have a plan.
KingKong
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Adelman stated that you need defensive players to be a defensive team. However, that contradicts the fact that we were statistically the best defensive team in 01-02 with a team that comprised of Vlade, Webber, Peja, Christie and Mike. Not exactly defensive stalwarts. Christie was the only good defender on that team, yet we were considered a great offensive & defensive team that year. They played great team defense that year and after that it was gone.
I've heard all the interviews now, and I believe that Adelman's was the most candid and informative, but I fail to see the logic behind needing defensive players to be a good defensive team, when 01-02 season is evidence enough that it can be done.
When Artest came in, he made a huge defensive impact, and by that I mean, by him playing that relentless defense that he does and basically working his tail off on the defensive end, it seemed to kick everybody else in butt to do the same and it worked. I guess what i'm trying to say is, is that you need to want to play defense in order be a good defensive team, and Pre- Artest that wasn't happening. Adelman may have stressed defense, but the players just weren't listening.
I've heard all the interviews now, and I believe that Adelman's was the most candid and informative, but I fail to see the logic behind needing defensive players to be a good defensive team, when 01-02 season is evidence enough that it can be done.
When Artest came in, he made a huge defensive impact, and by that I mean, by him playing that relentless defense that he does and basically working his tail off on the defensive end, it seemed to kick everybody else in butt to do the same and it worked. I guess what i'm trying to say is, is that you need to want to play defense in order be a good defensive team, and Pre- Artest that wasn't happening. Adelman may have stressed defense, but the players just weren't listening.
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Ryle
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ReinadelosReys said:
People just don't get it.
It is about accountability and the willingness of the coach to force guys to play defense. Regardless of what you say these guys can(and have) played defense. Problem is if there was a missed assignment or someone just isn't busting their *** the coach wouldn't do or say a damn thing about it and continue to give them minutes. You play defense or you sit, plain and simple.
Ryle said:
Bingo! We have a winner ladies and gentlemen! You can't just ask for a stop or to play better D...you must demand it and be willing to pull someone if they don't. Because D is 90% effort, 10% skill as opposed to O which is the opposite. Personally, I don't buy either party's spin but I find more fault with management and the way they handled it. You don't fire an 8 year "team member" through your GM after a five minute conversation with them. And you don't do it without a backup plan in place. These guys run a diversified company. Do you think they'd stand still for one of their managers being fired by they're hands on co-ordinaters without having someone ready to step into their position right away so dollars wouldn't eake away? I think not.
Yet that is what is happening now. TDOF is actually very short for them given what they have to do...summer league team makeup/goals...signing FAs that make sense for what you want to become, etc. Players want stability and right now we're not.
uolj
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This is one of the areas where I agree that Adelman could have improved. However, in my mind that was not nearly enough to outweigh the positive things he did, which is why I was never in favor of letting him go.Ryle said:
And unfortunately, it seems rare for Adelman's detractors, including the Maloofs, to actually provide legitimate reasoning behind their opinion. Too often the comments are more of the nature of "he can't coach a good defensive team" or "his teams constantly underachieve", which of course are obviously not true.
ReinadelosReys
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Ryle said:
No, its about winning, about playing with what you have. If you have Mike Bibby, Brad Miller and Peja Stojakovic and tell them that they are going to get pulled for every missed defensive assignment then you are not going to win very many games. Why? Because you then have to replace them with a trio who drops considerably in talent . They had to work with what they had. And for the record, I never said that these guys can't play defense because they can and they have, but play it as a championship caliber which is what the Maloofs say they want then that's not possible. You look at the Detroit Pistons or the San Antonio Spurs and yes they have had coaches who are perceived as "defensive minded" but they have also had one hell of a cast to work with. If Tony Parker or Chauncey Billips get beat then they have a Tim Duncan or a Ben Wallace to clean up their mess. We have Brad Miller. It’s just the truth. Rick said it himself his interview, look at Larry Brown, he was hell of a "defensive coach" in Detroit and now in New York, not so much. Elston Turner said it too, you players who are one dimensional, specialty players and this team has always been comprised mainly of those types of guys.
And so it continues, with the Maloofs being the bad guys in one scenario and Rick Adelman in the other.
What about Geoff Petrie? How come he - the one who actually goes out and finds the players to bring to the team - is immune? He and Rick Adelman don't sit down and discuss what players Petrie is going to draft or trade. That's painfully obvious, especially after the Christie and Webber trades which came as total surprises to Adelman.
Rick may have made some mistakes. The Maloofs need to attend a "How to Manage Personnel" seminar. But, make no mistake about it...Geoff Petrie also deserves to shoulder some of the blame.
How many of us were SCREAMING for a big man to be drafted last year? Petrie loves the Princeton and he loves shooters.
What we have right now is still a team in transition. Petrie didn't think we'd go too far last year; when we got Artest, it propelled us much further than he planned.
He has said we're in transition. We're a couple of years away from regaining elite status. He's said it, we believed it and then Ron made us forget all about it.
Now, the Maloofs have decided we need to change horses in mid-stream. It might work out; it might end up being a disaster. They could have made this whole thing a lot less painful by thinking first. They didn't. But let's not leave Petrie out of this blame game.
Those who wanted Adelman out have their wish. What depresses me the most is, even now, they feel they have to demean his accomplishments and find ways to belittle him.
Who was the coach after Artest got here? Did you see defense? I rest my somewhat confusing and rambling case...
What about Geoff Petrie? How come he - the one who actually goes out and finds the players to bring to the team - is immune? He and Rick Adelman don't sit down and discuss what players Petrie is going to draft or trade. That's painfully obvious, especially after the Christie and Webber trades which came as total surprises to Adelman.
Rick may have made some mistakes. The Maloofs need to attend a "How to Manage Personnel" seminar. But, make no mistake about it...Geoff Petrie also deserves to shoulder some of the blame.
How many of us were SCREAMING for a big man to be drafted last year? Petrie loves the Princeton and he loves shooters.
What we have right now is still a team in transition. Petrie didn't think we'd go too far last year; when we got Artest, it propelled us much further than he planned.
He has said we're in transition. We're a couple of years away from regaining elite status. He's said it, we believed it and then Ron made us forget all about it.
Now, the Maloofs have decided we need to change horses in mid-stream. It might work out; it might end up being a disaster. They could have made this whole thing a lot less painful by thinking first. They didn't. But let's not leave Petrie out of this blame game.
Those who wanted Adelman out have their wish. What depresses me the most is, even now, they feel they have to demean his accomplishments and find ways to belittle him.
Who was the coach after Artest got here? Did you see defense? I rest my somewhat confusing and rambling case...
shaka zulu
Bench
The season was 2002-2003 the year that they held opponents to the low field goal percentage, The Best in the league that season. They had better Defensive players that season, They had a Healthy slim and Trim Chris Webber, They also had a 6'11 inch 7'4 wing span Keon clark who was up in the top 10 in Block shots throughout that season, They had Doug Christe who I believe led the league in steals or was 2nd or 3rd that year, They had a younger experienced jim jackson coming off the bench, They had a younger and quicker Bobby jackson coming off the Bench, So they had some Good individual Defensive players as well as some Good Team Defenders that gave them a Mix of players that collectively were a Good Team in Defending, Similar to the spurs, Where they have a lively Duncan with us Webber,They have a Muhammed with us Keon clark who also was superior to naze as a Shot blocker, They have Tony parker and Ginobli, We had Doug Christie and Bobby jackson who were Good Defenders Team wise and Individually.KingKong said:
We had scott pollard a banger a Good Defensive Rebounder a Good Team Defender at his position, Hedo was a Good team Defennder at his position and players like Jim jackson, Gerald wallace provided toughenss, Team Defense and athleticism to help the team Be good Defensively. Add all this with the uptempo style, the kings that season were probabaly the Best complete Team in the league, Because they forced Teams to play at whatewver tempo that thay Desired to play , They also moved the ball so well that they valued the shot clock, Took Good shots, Which made them tough to set up a Game plan against, They dictated the style to their likeing on offense and Defense, With a mix of players that could do what you wanted them to do in all aspects of the game.
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