Luka Doncic (the 'LET'S RE-LITIGATE THE PICK UNTO PERPETUITY~!' thread)
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People just do the old idiotic Tyrese Evans vs curry season like it’s the same thing
Luka is a perfect example of people taking athleticism over skills too far. The kid had skills at 18 that hasn’t been seen before paired with a 6’8 frame. But no he can jump high enough so there’s no way he can be elite.
Jokic and Luka making a mockery out of athleticism and I love it. Although I do love watching Fox blow by everyone
Jokic and Luka making a mockery out of athleticism and I love it. Although I do love watching Fox blow by everyone
kingsfan1984
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Best just to not watch the mavs and do what king fans do best and patiently wait for a better future
Not only was he defended by an all nba defensive player but they trapped him on almost all his pick and rolls. MAN!!
KingsFanSince85
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KingsFanSince85
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It’s not the same thing. But it could be. You never know. That’s the point. Stop making declarations midway through season 1.
Look at last years class at this time and compare it to today, just 1 year later. It’s looking a bit different. In another season, it might be different again.
We get it. Luka has lived up to the hype thus far. But it doesn’t guarantee he’s still gonna end up the best player from the draft in 2-3 more seasons. If he does, great for him and great for Dallas. But things very well could change. As a Kings fan, I hope it does and we’re laughing about it sometime in the near future.
But.. if it's always going to change does it mean you can never make any sort of predictive statement? Who knows, maybe next year WCS will be better than KAT?
Sactown ExPat
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So, what’s the ideal team to put around Luka? What kind of moves will the Mavs be making at the deadline and this offseason?
Hansel
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Maybe Sam Bowie will be better than MJ. Are both still alive, right? Who knows then.
With Luka/Smith I think they can take 1 more playmaker after that I’d focus on 3D guys.
Smith looks good next to Luka so he’s going nowhere. Start off by signing Brogdon than if Kawhi goes to LaC max out Tobias Harris and have a core of Smith/Brogdon/Harris/Luka
White_Chocolate
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It’s almost been 3 full days since the last posting in this thread. WTH is going on here? The effort level is dying here.
Well Luka had a mediocre game and the Mavs lost again. It would make sense for the most posting to be happening when he is lighting it up, which will probably be the next game haha
It’s almost been 3 full days since the last posting in this thread. WTH is going on here? The effort level is dying here.
He’s terrible probably or people tired of the goalpost being moved
Kingsfan23
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Bleacherreport’s 2018 redraft has Bagley at 7, and the 4th big behind JJJ and Carter like I’ve stated I’ve had. Bagley has looked better recently and has gotten better as the season has progressed, but as of now this wasn’t a successful draft, and I’d prefer accountability for it if it maintains this way (Doncic/Knox/Gilgeous-Alexander also ranked ahead)
White_Chocolate
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We are in January of year 1. This draft won't be truly graded until June of year of 2. The only assertion I will make as of now is that Doncic appears like a swing and miss. If we are in the playoffs this year or next and Bagley is a core piece of that BleacherReport's ranking will be a moot point (as they are right now...)
Bagley hasn't play in a month. That's like saying Simmons rank last during rookie season cus he didn't play.
http://bleacherreport.com/post/nba/81d5f5e0-0080-47cf-97d5-c78d07669519
His step back is harden level
His step back is harden level
John Galt
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You want accountability because some bloggers don't agree with the way Vlade has miraculously produced a .500 team ahead of schedule? What kind of accountability exactly? Bloggers fired you mean?
Dallas is going to have to sign a big name free agent because if they don't I just don't see how they can assemble much more young talent around Luka. Most likely they won't have their pick next year. Luka is going to keep them good enough to avoid picking Top-5 next year (to keep their pick). He'll also keep them good enough to stay out of the top-5 the following year as well.
So you run into this problem where you have a phenomenal 19 year old that makes everybody better......but you don't have much young talent around him to make better.
Harrison Barnes sucks. He just flat out sucks at everything in basketball other than scoring. No passing, no rebounding, below average handle, no intangibles, no leadership. Total waste of a big contract and a big disappointment from his draft hype. Wes Matthews is just a bit more skilled than Barnes but the results aren't there and clearly the Achilles injury took a lot out of him. DeAndre Jordan is still a solid big man but he's getting older and he no longer impacts the game defensively like he used to. Jordan may not be on the Mavericks next year anyways. That leaves Dennis Smith Jr. as the only guy in the Mavs starting lineup with room for growth. Problem is he's a low IQ player and hasn't shown much ability to adapt.
The Kings depth level of young talent is vastly superior to the Mavericks.
Mavericks are going to have to attract a big name free agent and also hit it big on a late first round or second round pick.
So you run into this problem where you have a phenomenal 19 year old that makes everybody better......but you don't have much young talent around him to make better.
Harrison Barnes sucks. He just flat out sucks at everything in basketball other than scoring. No passing, no rebounding, below average handle, no intangibles, no leadership. Total waste of a big contract and a big disappointment from his draft hype. Wes Matthews is just a bit more skilled than Barnes but the results aren't there and clearly the Achilles injury took a lot out of him. DeAndre Jordan is still a solid big man but he's getting older and he no longer impacts the game defensively like he used to. Jordan may not be on the Mavericks next year anyways. That leaves Dennis Smith Jr. as the only guy in the Mavs starting lineup with room for growth. Problem is he's a low IQ player and hasn't shown much ability to adapt.
The Kings depth level of young talent is vastly superior to the Mavericks.
Mavericks are going to have to attract a big name free agent and also hit it big on a late first round or second round pick.
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Hansel
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I disagree. Harden travels, Luka don't.
Harrison Barnes is so bad man he kills the offense and Jordan plays 0 defense 0.
They have to hope Smith gets better coach has to let him play through mistakes. Trade Barnes for love atleast love will give you 17-10 than swing for Boogie in the summer
He thought he could intimidate Luka probably read the scouting report that said he’s slow, fat, and wouldn’t translate to the nba game
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