Loren Woods
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BigWaxer
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Just a question so I understand more. But what players were wasted on the bench? I am assuming TAG? Skinner? but this goes for pretty much any of them. So my question is do you think playing these bench players would have yielded us better results in the end? Meaning not being bounced early in the playoffs.
Virtually everyone on this board has complained one time or another about Adelman's use (or more appropriately - non-use) of the bench. We've screamed about it; we've beaten our chests and kicked chairs about it.
Players we thought could have given our starters a break OR at least come in when the starters were cold were not utilized to advantage in some instances.
Remember Gerald Wallace? How many people thought he was totally wasted here?
SacTownKid is simply bringing up something that most of us at least had thoughts of once in a while. If we're going to have guys on the bench that Petrie says he's really enthused about, let's hope Musselman at least uses them enough so we know if there's any hope for them or not.
hammystyle
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^^ Although at times I think the screaming is a bit much. In Jamal Sampson's case for instance. Really, Gerald Wallace is the only guy I wished could have played a bit more (fully recogizing the hindsightedness of it all).
There were times when putting Greg Ostertag in might have helped. It certainly couldn't have hurt more than watching Brad labor up and down the court like he was struggling through mud bogs. On some nights, when Miller just wasn't quite there, I think a number of us really would have liked to see Tag in - until it got to the point where he was so out of shape that he looked like Tractor Traylor.
TheJoker
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VF21 said:
See this is exactly the problem, i hate when the Kings get these scrubs THEY Rely on them TO much... they expect them to deliver once there on the Basketball court thats not how it goes heck we just don't have a good front-court rotation and it has been that way for a few years so the reason they rely on them is not only because they expect them to deliver they just don't have to many big-mans to work with.
Yeah, how dare we actually think a professional NBA player, even at the lower end of the scale, might actually be able to contribute in some small way to a professional NBA team? We must all be delusional.
What's wrong with people being optimistic? Lately this whole place is just one big oozing pool of dour comments about the team, the future, the new players, etc.
I'm sorry but I'm not going to stop being optimistic. I'm a Kings homer; I've never claimed to be anything else. And I'm going to assume that maybe, just maybe, the scouts, the coaches, Geoff Petrie and his staff, etc. know what they're doing for the most part and just might be privy to better information than we have.
Bottom line, Loren Woods IS 7'2". He can stand under the basket, hold his arms up, and the occasional shot from outside might just bounce off one of them. If he wiggles those arms, the chances get better. If he actually has any hand to eye coordination, the chances sky-rocket that he might block a shot or three.
We paid less than $1 million for him. I'm not advocating putting him into the regular rotation quite yet, but I'm not going to be upset about the acquisition. You get what you pay for. At the price we paid, if he can walk to midcourt and just stand there, I think we got a bargain.
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Gary
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Think of Loren Woods as a poor mans Keon Clark type player.
If he brings his "A" game to Sacramento than we will have a player like Keon but taller. I'm all for having him here.
I don't get why people are so dissapointed. The amount of money that he is getting is far lower than guys that we don't even use. If you want to get mad than get mad at all those salaries that are going to waste. They are why we don't have a big name this summer.
If he brings his "A" game to Sacramento than we will have a player like Keon but taller. I'm all for having him here.
I don't get why people are so dissapointed. The amount of money that he is getting is far lower than guys that we don't even use. If you want to get mad than get mad at all those salaries that are going to waste. They are why we don't have a big name this summer.
R
Rome
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agreed.
ParniValjak
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I am not disappointed that we got Woods but I am disappointed if he is the "great white hope" for our interior defence. I think Woods is a good value for money. In other words a perfect 3rd C and 12th/13th guy on the roster. What people here are "disappointed" about is some posters making him out to be something he is not and thats a major minutes rotation player that can make our interior D better. He does have some of the skills we need but he is in no way in improvement. He replaces Jamal Sampson. Woods is better than Jamal but he just isn't good enough to be a majot rotation minutes player on a play off team. When I say major minutes rotation player, I am talking about 20mpg type. Something that Pollard and Keon were for us.
Loren Woods in his 10 odd minutes per game will do nothing to improve our D and with Miller, SAR and Thomas on the roster, I just can't see him getting any more than 10-odd mpg and that doesn't include playing him every game. But for a veteran minimum thats the sort of player you can expect. If people are expecting anything more than that, then they are having unreasonable expectations.
Entity
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I am sorry is it just me or is hard to tell that Bricklayer is a Kings fan. Lets recap. Bibby is awful on defense and is not a true PG. Kevin Martin is young and inconsistant and Bonzi would have been better. Artest is a great player just concerend about his mind. Reef tweener PF poor rebound bad shotblocker laughable defender. KT Tweener at best not a threat to visiting team. Miller slow can't jump help defense is awful can post up anybody. Woods uhm need not mention. Salmons not the answer. Hart awful. Amundson and Williams young will never make it. Douby well at least his photos look good.
Does that about sum up your opinions of supposedly you favorite basketball team.
I would love to see Bricklayers version of the media guide.
And if this is your favorite team tell us somethings about other team i bet they all are scum of the earth talentless peons that need to play crochet.
Does that about sum up your opinions of supposedly you favorite basketball team.
I would love to see Bricklayers version of the media guide.
And if this is your favorite team tell us somethings about other team i bet they all are scum of the earth talentless peons that need to play crochet.
SLAB
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True.
True.
True.
True.
True.
True.
Woods--- Who cares...He's cheap...And he's better then Potopenko.
Salmons--- Very true.
Hart--- Very True.
Amundsen/Williams--- We'll see
Douby--- We'll see
Point being, players have negative qualities...Pointing them out doesnt make you any less of a fan...Being a pessimist doesn't make you any less of a fan.
And for all their chronicled negatives, each (most) player has some positives to go with them.
Entity
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yeah maybe so. But every player we have and every player we had. Brick only talks about what he can't do. Then after they are off the team he compares new players to them as if they were great when they were here. I am sorry but Hedo, Jim, Scot were not this awesome bench that got us far in the playoffs. if so then John Salmons is going to impress he is better then Jim, Hedo and Bobby and of course Scot and Keon. Better talent wise i know he is not a better shot blocker than Keon.
SLAB
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Woods, Im perfectly happy with...He is cheap...He is 7'2...He can block shots...He is better than Potopenko...And he is automatically our best interior defender by default.
Salmons however still irks me...Sure, he may be able to contribute in a Jimmy Jackson type way...He may score us 7/3/3 every night, but damn it I want my 25 million dollars going to something better than that...The Maloofs are so luxery-tax defiant, why sign Salmons, yet another swing man, when we have someone who can get us very near those numbers, with even a block or two on given nights in Cisco Garcia.
I have to wait to jump down his throat any more though.
Woods Im happy with.
Salmons however still irks me...Sure, he may be able to contribute in a Jimmy Jackson type way...He may score us 7/3/3 every night, but damn it I want my 25 million dollars going to something better than that...The Maloofs are so luxery-tax defiant, why sign Salmons, yet another swing man, when we have someone who can get us very near those numbers, with even a block or two on given nights in Cisco Garcia.
I have to wait to jump down his throat any more though.
Woods Im happy with.
Entity
Hall of Famer
Slab i understand nothing wrong with pointing out the bad parts. But just once every 10 years or so lets say hey that guy is going to do exactly what we need him to do. i mean if i went in every year thinking there is noway we are making the playoffs why in the hell would i watch. Just to bash? eh anyway maybe its just me i just don't see me as a fan constanly looking at the bad in everybody and not thinking we could be a great team.
Entity
Hall of Famer
Hell thats cheap these days. And I wouldn't worry much about it you will see how much he helps us. If you don't mind i am going to save this post so i can show you about 2 months into the season.
ParniValjak
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What ever you are smoking, pass it around because that some sriously strong ****!
John Salmons could very well inpress but in no way is he better than the players you mentioned.
GoGoGadget
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Just you.
You're thinking of Jim Jackson. He tore through both Nowitzki and Shawn Bradley, nearly ripped the rim down and almost killed both of them in the process. It was one of the most impressive dunks I've ever seen.
You probably should have stopped right there. Bricklayer and Entity go back and forth all the time. If you notice, pretty much everyone else steps out of the way. Bricklayer is more than competent to fight his own battles.
Just an FYI...
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