Loren Woods
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Sampson was never played outside of garbage time. I think with a coach like Musselman, and the big uncertainity of Potapenko, it'll be different for Woods.
ParniValjak
All-Star
Not true!
Wallace was playing just under 17 minutes per game in his second year. In his 3rd season he was getting serious minutes in the rotation. In fact just und 27 minutes per game. Thats hardly riding the back of the bench.
Entity
Hall of Famer
I just looked at Kandi's and Cato's numbers. How can we be saying they are better than Woods. yeah sure 5 years ago. look at their numbers for the last 2 years. Woods has both of them beat in reb and blk and about the same in points. Not to mention both of them are 32 and 33 years old can't run the floor anymore and don't have a leaping ability. Woods will fit Musselmans style alot better than the grumpy old men.
Cato was injury plagued the last two seasons. But was rehabbing his most recent injury, the ankle. He's a pretty solid defensive big. Olowokandi barely played in Boston, wasn't bad in Minny. He would of had a regular oppurtunity here, and is an inside defensive presence.
Both aren't totally hops-less or mobile-less, and are very big.
Unless it's a joke, Cato isn't grumpy.
Overall, I'm fine with getting Woods.
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Arby's Roast Beef
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Well, Cato is a beetle, if he's not grumpy 
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If anything, Woods is huge. He's 7'2" and 260 lbs., even though he looks less than that in terms of weight seeing long and lanky he really is. If he doesn't have the mental potential down, he sure does have the physical potential.
...If anything, Woods is huge. He's 7'2" and 260 lbs., even though he looks less than that in terms of weight seeing long and lanky he really is. If he doesn't have the mental potential down, he sure does have the physical potential.
Wow, we actually have another 7 footer and not just that...he's 7' 2". I don't know if you can really call Brad a 7 footer since he plays smaller and away from the basket, but what the heck...we have a cheap big. Should be a fun season. I really hope Amundson and Williams stick as well, should be fun to watch them and hopefully they will get some playing time and suprise us. Amundson brings lots of effort so that's good because we lost Bonzi, should be fun to see him off the bench and providing the spark we need.
Depends on our roster situation by October.
"Complete" I don't think matters with Amundson or Williams. They're both hustlers, bangers, and defenders.
I hope we can get both of them on the team, but if not, one of course. I'd rather have Williams of the two, but would be alright with Amundson because of what he brings as well.
Jeter? Who knows, could replace Hart. He had a decent summer league. Overall I'm not sure he'll make the team.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
I would prefer Williams also, but in the summer league, it seemed to me Amundson was better offensively while Williams swatted everything (or tried to) that came withing 5ft of him. I like Williams more because he seems to know what type of player he is and he plays defense better than some of the Kings players, mainly Brad.
Amundson is better offensively yes, but so far, just a better hustle point scorer than Williams. While Amundson also got more touches than Williams. As it's not like Williams has bad hands (he has big hands) or can't score at all. Amundson doesn't have a jumpshot yet, isn't a passer. Which isn't going to be expected from either of them unless they develop it or something.
Quite frankly, they won't be out there for offense really. I just like both of their energy-player games, which is what they'll be out there for.
As again, this goes back to them both being hustlers/bangers/defenders.
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SacTownKid
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I fully expect to see Jason Hart waived any day now in order to make room for somebody.
R
Rome
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I hope your right.
Amanjoy
Bench
Ok...so maybe he wasn't riding the pine...but was he doing anything with those minutes? Not that I can remember! In fact I don't think anybody had even heard of the guy till he showed up in Detroit. Give Woods a chance...this might be the right situation for him to shine.
Jerryaki
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by his third season wallace was logging 6 pts, 8 boards, and 2 blocks in 26 minutes. bu his third season, woods was logging 3 pts, 4 rebounds, and .5 blocks in 16 minutes. don't bother extrapolating the stats to 26 minutes, woods is NOT wallace.
Amanjoy
Bench
Maybe he won't be Ben Wallace, but Ben Wallce wasn't the Ben Wallace we know now until he got the opportunity to be in a system that used his skills to their fullest. I'm not saying Woods will go on to be a hall-of-fame calibur defensive player. I'm just saying he has a great opportunity to get playing time, and he could turn out to be a diamond in the rough the way Wallace did given the right opportunity and situation. I can gurantee you that Pistons fans got a whole lot mroe than they bargained for when they picked up Big Ben.
As for mentioning Woods' name with that of Ben Wallace, maybe it's blasphemy now, but you never know what will happen after this year. I'm sure mentioning Wallace's name in the same sentence with Grant Hill's was blasphemy in Detroit for a while. Now it's the other way around!
Like I said, I'm not saying that Woods will be another Ben Wallace. I'm jsut saying that big guys like him can still contribute given the right coach and right situation. Wallce became a great player in Det when really he's not! It will be interesting to see how he does with the Bulls this year. I think Woods really has a great shot with the Kings to succeed. Whether or not he does will be up to him.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Oh my, this is getting almost comical.
A 28yr old 5yr pro with career averages of 3pts 3rebs and half a block, and now somehow its "you never know?"
Please.
A 28yr old 5yr pro with career averages of 3pts 3rebs and half a block, and now somehow its "you never know?"
Please.
Hey man I KNOW you! I've met you at the Jazz-Kings games in SLC and also at Sean Favero's house. How you doing man?
BawLa
Starter
Ah no. But I can understand your confusion. Pooh and monkeys often are associated, especially when one is hurling the other at pesky visitors.
You saw Pooh Jeter throwing a monkey at someone? Wow. I'm jealous. 
From Sac Bee about Woods:
One interesting side note about Loren Woods: His son is one perceptive young fellow. The elder Woods is the newest King, a 7-foot-2 center who came aboard via free agency Tuesday to shore up a front line that could use some size, experience, bulk, resistance and rebounds.
The five-year veteran also is the father of a 4 1/2-year-old, Kholin, who knows the best player around when he sees one.
"He said his favorite player in the NBA is me," Woods said, grinning while at the Kings' practice facility. "He's got to say that. I'm the one paying the bills."
Woods, 28, is hoping for some financial security, with the Kings representing his fourth team, and he's not exactly conceding to a vagabond career. He signed a one-year, $950,000 deal, though it is not known how much of that is guaranteed. What Woods can say for certain is that he's ready to stick around for a bit. "It's my fourth team," he said. "I don't know how many more chances I'll get. I'm like a cat with nine lives."
He's more of a Caterpillar-brand bulldozer -- wide-bodied and sturdy. Though Woods hasn't been compared to Shaquille O'Neal since entering the league as a second-round pick of the Minnesota Timberwolves out of Arizona in 2001, he has proven to be a solid player when he gets minutes.
Woods' best season was with the Toronto Raptors in 2004-05, when he averaged 3.9 points and 4.9 rebounds in 45 games. Last season, he averaged 2.3 points and 4.1 rebounds in 27 games for the Raptors.
"I like his length, and he's athletic and he can block shots," said Kings vice president of basketball operations Wayne Cooper, a former NBA post himself. "He's had some moments in this league. His upside is still there."
Cooper also noted that there simply is not a surplus of 7-footers with skills bouncing around the free-agent want list. Not this summer or ever.
Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie said "a lot of big guys develop later" in their careers. Petrie also said the Kings likely are finished with offseason upgrades, barring unforeseen trades.
Sacramento has 17 players under contract entering training camp. Teams are allowed to keep 15.
"It's pretty unlikely that we're going to sign any more players," Petrie said. "We're pretty well tapped out on our (player salary) exceptions."
Petrie said he is pleased with the summer additions, from first-round pick Quincy Douby, a guard, to free-agent signee John Salmons, a swingman, to Woods.
"I like the draft pick, I like John in absence of Bonzi (Wells), and Loren gives us depth," Petrie said. "And I was encouraged with our young guys in summer league."
Eager to impress at training camp, Woods already has met with coach Eric Musselman, and he has a friend in swingman Kevin Martin, who has the same offseason conditioning coach as Woods.
A St. Louis native, Woods was a high school McDonald's All-American. He had his growth spurt in middle school, shooting up nearly a foot in two years, and he joked that the rest of his body still is trying to catch up.
"I came into the sixth grade at 5-10, and people said, 'That kid's tall!' to leaving eighth grade at 6-8 and people saying, 'Wow.' "
Woods yearns for more wows. He thought he was earning some of that praise during his two seasons in Toronto. But he said he came away understanding it was a "learning experience" with a lot of "frustration" of losses and playing time.
"I can fit in here," the soft-spoken Woods said. "I can help this team. I can do a little bit of everything. I can rebound and run, and I can put the ball in the hole a little. I'm 7-2, and the basket is right next to me. I'm very excited about this. It's a new start."
From hoopshype about Woods:
http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm
"
Woods, 28, is hoping for some financial security, with the Kings representing his fourth team, and he's not exactly conceding to a vagabond career. He signed a one-year, $950,000 deal, though it is not known how much of that is guaranteed. What Woods can say for certain is that he's ready to stick around for a bit. Sacramento Bee
"It's my fourth team," he said. "I don't know how many more chances I'll get. I'm like a cat with nine lives." He's more of a Caterpillar-brand bulldozer -- wide-bodied and sturdy. Though Woods hasn't been compared to Shaquille O'Neal since entering the league as a second-round pick of the Minnesota Timberwolves out of Arizona in 2001, he has proven to be a solid player when he gets minutes. Sacramento Bee
"It's pretty unlikely that we're going to sign any more players," Petrie said. "We're pretty well tapped out on our (player salary) exceptions." Sacramento Bee
Petrie said he is pleased with the summer additions, from first-round pick Quincy Douby, a guard, to free-agent signee John Salmons, a swingman, to Woods. "I like the draft pick, I like John in absence of Bonzi (Wells), and Loren gives us depth," Petrie said. "And I was encouraged with our young guys in summer league." Sacramento Bee"
One interesting side note about Loren Woods: His son is one perceptive young fellow. The elder Woods is the newest King, a 7-foot-2 center who came aboard via free agency Tuesday to shore up a front line that could use some size, experience, bulk, resistance and rebounds.
The five-year veteran also is the father of a 4 1/2-year-old, Kholin, who knows the best player around when he sees one.
"He said his favorite player in the NBA is me," Woods said, grinning while at the Kings' practice facility. "He's got to say that. I'm the one paying the bills."
Woods, 28, is hoping for some financial security, with the Kings representing his fourth team, and he's not exactly conceding to a vagabond career. He signed a one-year, $950,000 deal, though it is not known how much of that is guaranteed. What Woods can say for certain is that he's ready to stick around for a bit. "It's my fourth team," he said. "I don't know how many more chances I'll get. I'm like a cat with nine lives."
He's more of a Caterpillar-brand bulldozer -- wide-bodied and sturdy. Though Woods hasn't been compared to Shaquille O'Neal since entering the league as a second-round pick of the Minnesota Timberwolves out of Arizona in 2001, he has proven to be a solid player when he gets minutes.
Woods' best season was with the Toronto Raptors in 2004-05, when he averaged 3.9 points and 4.9 rebounds in 45 games. Last season, he averaged 2.3 points and 4.1 rebounds in 27 games for the Raptors.
"I like his length, and he's athletic and he can block shots," said Kings vice president of basketball operations Wayne Cooper, a former NBA post himself. "He's had some moments in this league. His upside is still there."
Cooper also noted that there simply is not a surplus of 7-footers with skills bouncing around the free-agent want list. Not this summer or ever.
Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie said "a lot of big guys develop later" in their careers. Petrie also said the Kings likely are finished with offseason upgrades, barring unforeseen trades.
Sacramento has 17 players under contract entering training camp. Teams are allowed to keep 15.
"It's pretty unlikely that we're going to sign any more players," Petrie said. "We're pretty well tapped out on our (player salary) exceptions."
Petrie said he is pleased with the summer additions, from first-round pick Quincy Douby, a guard, to free-agent signee John Salmons, a swingman, to Woods.
"I like the draft pick, I like John in absence of Bonzi (Wells), and Loren gives us depth," Petrie said. "And I was encouraged with our young guys in summer league."
Eager to impress at training camp, Woods already has met with coach Eric Musselman, and he has a friend in swingman Kevin Martin, who has the same offseason conditioning coach as Woods.
A St. Louis native, Woods was a high school McDonald's All-American. He had his growth spurt in middle school, shooting up nearly a foot in two years, and he joked that the rest of his body still is trying to catch up.
"I came into the sixth grade at 5-10, and people said, 'That kid's tall!' to leaving eighth grade at 6-8 and people saying, 'Wow.' "
Woods yearns for more wows. He thought he was earning some of that praise during his two seasons in Toronto. But he said he came away understanding it was a "learning experience" with a lot of "frustration" of losses and playing time.
"I can fit in here," the soft-spoken Woods said. "I can help this team. I can do a little bit of everything. I can rebound and run, and I can put the ball in the hole a little. I'm 7-2, and the basket is right next to me. I'm very excited about this. It's a new start."
From hoopshype about Woods:
http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm
"
Woods, 28, is hoping for some financial security, with the Kings representing his fourth team, and he's not exactly conceding to a vagabond career. He signed a one-year, $950,000 deal, though it is not known how much of that is guaranteed. What Woods can say for certain is that he's ready to stick around for a bit. Sacramento Bee
"It's my fourth team," he said. "I don't know how many more chances I'll get. I'm like a cat with nine lives." He's more of a Caterpillar-brand bulldozer -- wide-bodied and sturdy. Though Woods hasn't been compared to Shaquille O'Neal since entering the league as a second-round pick of the Minnesota Timberwolves out of Arizona in 2001, he has proven to be a solid player when he gets minutes. Sacramento Bee
"It's pretty unlikely that we're going to sign any more players," Petrie said. "We're pretty well tapped out on our (player salary) exceptions." Sacramento Bee
Petrie said he is pleased with the summer additions, from first-round pick Quincy Douby, a guard, to free-agent signee John Salmons, a swingman, to Woods. "I like the draft pick, I like John in absence of Bonzi (Wells), and Loren gives us depth," Petrie said. "And I was encouraged with our young guys in summer league." Sacramento Bee"
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Ah no. But I can understand your confusion. Pooh and monkeys often are associated, especially when one is hurling the other at pesky visitors.
LOL
Wow, Woods doesn't have much confidence, he is not believing that his 4 year old thinks he's the best NBA player. I'd say he is the best if that gives him the confidence he needs to do good here in Sacramento. Your the best Woods, there is no higher.
Come on Kings fans:
"Your the best around...no one gana evera push you down...your the best around......"
I don't know how the rest goes, and I got to get off to work. Later....
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TheJoker
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Kings113 said:
GP seems, confident about our front-court question is who can we trade to get value back? Kenny Thomas is highly undervalued in this league and his contract makes teams less-attractive is there possible trading options you see us trading that teams will be interested?
thatguy
Bench
I find it peculiar that you think KT is both undervalued and overpaid.
The Kings' offseason, insofar as player movement/additions, is over.
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