Loren Woods

CruzDude said:
Petrie has never picked up a bum or a bust. .
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Uh....what??

Does it all the time. We still make jokes about some of the worst ones (see Cleaves, Mateen). Did it last year with the same roster spot (Sampson). Woods is what Woods is -- he's not going to suddenly morph into Hakeem because Geoff decided to pull him off the scrap heap.

Nothing really the matter with picking this one up, but its not going to solve anything beyond who gets to be our 9th-12th men.
 
Rick never played Sampson except in garbage time. That wasn't Geoff's fault. I still think Sampson would of been able to give some energy off the bench with his size and athleticism.
 
Kings113 said:
Rick never played Sampson except in garbage time. That wasn't Geoff's fault. I still think Sampson would of been able to give some energy off the bench with his size and athleticism.
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Which is where the normal fan's delusion that these are al great finds kicks in. Everybody who has ever been a King was an All Star in waiting. Just something mysterious happened.

Sampson is on team...4? 5? now. Been waived several times. Never played more than 23 games in a season. Career scrub. Phil Jackson didn't play him either. I was intrigued, but he's lucky to have even found an NBA job this time. And its as a 12th man.
 
Brick, do you have a scounting report on him, Raptor fans seem to be down on him this acquisition seems so confusing.
 
TheJoker said:
Brick, do you have a scounting report on him, Raptor fans seem to be down on him this acquisition seems so confusing.
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Who, Woods?

Think some of the early posters had it more or less right. Tall, but not very physical. Good shotblocker, which is why he stuck in the league, and statistically at least rebounding has been solid the last couple of years. But shaky head, wildly inconsistent, effort and toughness not guaranteed. And just seems to be one of those guys who gets decent numbers but has no appreciable impact.

In this case though, those Toronto fans likely have a better read on him than I do. Perosnally I think he's another one of those "right skillset, wrong talent" type of guys who I would not be upset to see us acquire for depth, but who frankly just isn't good enough to turn things around for us.
 
Bricklayer said:
Uh....what??

Does it all the time. We still make jokes about some of the worst ones (see Cleaves, Mateen). Did it last year with the same roster spot (Sampson). Woods is what Woods is -- he's not going to suddenly morph into Hakeem because Geoff decided to pull him off the scrap heap.

Nothing really the matter with picking this one up, but its not going to solve anything beyond who gets to be our 9th-12th men.
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I would like to refer to a former post of yours Brick. It was concerning that C Seattle got from Africa with the 10th pick. You said he will probably be good for the 3rd or 4th team he played for. well i guess this is our chance for a guys career to turn around we are the 4th team. you never know (see Jim Jackson) Jimmy was sitting at home eating cheetos and watching M*A*S*H when called him 3 weeks before the season started and picked him up. After that season Petrie was cursed for not resigning him.
 
Entity said:
I would like to refer to a former post of yours Brick. It was concerning that C Seattle got from Africa with the 10th pick. You said he will probably be good for the 3rd or 4th team he played for. well i guess this is our chance for a guys career to turn around we are the 4th team. you never know (see Jim Jackson) Jimmy was sitting at home eating cheetos and watching M*A*S*H when called him 3 weeks before the season started and picked him up. After that season Petrie was cursed for not resigning him.
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Actually I think that was nbrans who said that about Sene.

But to the degree it was said, it was because Sene is yet another one of those guys who is both very young and very new to the game. Hence maybe a long way from his potential. Woods on the other hand had a more or less compelte college career, has been in the league for a long time, and just is what he is.

BTW, Jim Jackson was a former superstud who once averaged 25ppg in a season in his youth. Him stepping up for us and averaging 8ppg or whatever was no great shock.
 
Not to mention the fact that Jim Jackson was sititng home beceause he was mess in the locker room, not on the court. If Bonzi ends up on the couch eating cheetos waitng to get his Yacht unstuck it will NOT be beceause of his play.

Woods on the other hand is at the bottom of the list... well beceause he has never really done anything to move up on it.
 
Bricklayer said:
Originally Posted by CruzDude
Petrie has never picked up a bum or a bust. .
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Uh....what??

Does it all the time. We still make jokes about some of the worst ones (see Cleaves, Mateen). Did it last year with the same roster spot (Sampson). Woods is what Woods is -- he's not going to suddenly morph into Hakeem because Geoff decided to pull him off the scrap heap.

Nothing really the matter with picking this one up, but its not going to solve anything beyond who gets to be our 9th-12th men.
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I don't know about all the time, but it does happen. However, I think one needs to look at the context of the trades made when placing judgement. Someone at Bleachersmob a long time ago made what I think is a valid observation, that when Petrie makes decisions based on talent he has a very good (doesn't mean perfect in any way) track record. When he makes decisions that appears to be focused on the bottom line, they have been far less than stellar. Cleaves falls into the latter catagory. Unfortunatly, the Kings have been in the cost cutting mode for some time, and the results speak for themselves.
 
Loren Woods

Hollinger: Woods began the year as the starting center but was on the end of the bench by the time the season ended. At an athletic 7-1, his talent for rebounding is undeniable, but the rest of his game has never come around. Woods has a very limited post game and his lack of strength and balance make it tough for him to finish shots around the basket despite his size. He also tends to fall asleep on defense and can't push bigger players out of the post, making him a mediocre defender despite his rebounding and shot-blocking abilities. Woods is under contract for this season at a very modest salary and could fill in as a backup center if his effort gets more consistent, but he has little to recommend him as a long-term solution.


Most similar at age: Vladimir Stepania


Hoopshype: A dominant center in college with Arizona... Can also play the power forward... Good shooting touch... Very long... Great speed for his size... Not strong enough... Inconsistent
 
If there is a plus to his signing is the fact he finally has to prove himself if he has any desire to make the big bucks. He has the talent, just never seemed to have the fire. Hey, not a big investment. If he rises to the occasion its our gain. If not, you just cut your loses and move on. I know all the fans, including myself will give him plenty of support, until he proves unworthy of it.
 
bajaden said:
If there is a plus to his signing is the fact he finally has to prove himself if he has any desire to make the big bucks. He has the talent, just never seemed to have the fire. Hey, not a big investment. If he rises to the occasion its our gain. If not, you just cut your loses and move on. I know all the fans, including myself will give him plenty of support, until he proves unworthy of it.
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Agreed.
 
Wow some of you guys are really down on Woods. Look at his minutes and the amount of rebounds he gets about 4-5 rebounds in only 12 minutes a game.

Give him 20-24 minutes and the guy will give you 5 pts, 7-8 rebounds, and 1-2 blocks. Thats not too bad if you ask me...

Only question is will he be consistent or inconsistent. If he becomes the player i mentioned than I'm going to love this signing more than last year's SAR or this year's Salmons.
 
I'll be surprised if he gets much more than 10 minutes a game, and that's not even counting the 20-50 DNP-CDs.
 
uolj said:
I'll be surprised if he gets much more than 10 minutes a game, and that's not even counting the 20-50 DNP-CDs.
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I think you could be surprised with how Musselman seemingly likes to use his roster. Not taking his time in GS into account, but what Muss has already said in various interviews and articles since he's gotten here.
 
The one thing about Loren is that in 10 minutes he can get you 4 blocks. Very prolific.

Of course a negative is that he is very foul prone so he could also get you 4 fouls. He kind of reminds me of Tyson Chandler, only when he gets in early foul trouble you're not sending 10 million dollars to the bench.
 
SacTownKid said:
The one thing about Loren is that in 10 minutes he can get you 4 blocks. Very prolific.

Of course a negative is that he is very foul prone so he could also get you 4 fouls. He kind of reminds me of Tyson Chandler, only when he gets in early foul trouble you're not sending 10 million dollars to the bench.
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Good analogy, he does sound like Chandler and is much cheaper. :D
 
SacTownKid said:
The one thing about Loren is that in 10 minutes he can get you 4 blocks. Very prolific.
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I can agree with you that he shows some really great potential simply with his statlines. But he's either very effective or very inefficient--often being the latter, of course. Hypothetically, if Musselman does decide to give Woods 30 minutes per game and lets him play all 82 games, Woods may have about 15 good games and 67 bad games, based on his play in previous years. He often teases you with his talent though.
 
I'm definatly not down on the Woods signing.

Not exactly what I wanted to blow me out of the water, but still, pretty much ANYTHING is better than watching Vitaly Potopenko playing consistant minutes...Ugh.

Hopefully he will be a 5pt/5reb/2blk guy, and I would be more than pleased with that.
 
SLAB said:
I'm definatly not down on the Woods signing.

Not exactly what I wanted to blow me out of the water, but still, pretty much ANYTHING is better than watching Vitaly Potopenko playing consistant minutes...Ugh.

Hopefully he will be a 5pt/5reb/2blk guy, and I would be more than pleased with that.
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Indeed.
 
Has anybody ever entertained the notion that Ben Walllace was much like Woods in the fact that he bounced around for a bit on the end of the bench before finding the right fit in Detroit. I can imagine Detroit fans weren't too happy when they found out Grant Hill had been lost and Ben Wallace was supposed to make them forget about Hill's greatness! Give Woods a chance. I think he'll play well for us!
 
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