Kings @ Wizards game discussion

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That was close. I guess it's a good thing Kevin's anti-clucth, well, maybe not in the long run.

That was a very tough shot and it almost fell. Saying Kevin is anti-clutch is just not accurate in this situation. but of course, it's always good to dump on Kevin so I should just shut up and let it happen, right?

:rolleyes:
 
Sorry, but I have to question why you wouldn't want Garcia here long term. We aren't going to suck this bad next year. It's not gonna happen. Garcia could and should be part of the future, IMHO...

I totally agree, I think he's a great part of this rebuild.
 
We need to win at some point... you could see it eating Hawes up. Its got to kill the player by losing on last seconds shots SO much. Its ridiculous how close we get sometimes.
 
That was a very tough shot and it almost fell. Saying Kevin is anti-clutch is just not accurate in this situation. but of course, it's always good to dump on Kevin so I should just shut up and let it happen, right?

:rolleyes:

I'm not trying to hate on Martin or anything but he isn't a very good clutch player. Maby its just because he doesn't get the ball enough in those situations but for as good as a scorer/shooter he is he should be able to take advantage of a few of those opportunities he's gotten.
 
Cisco continues to scare me in this situation -- and BTW, his clutch shooting is exactly why you WOULD want him if we ever got good. Or some other good team sdhould want him.

Kevin on the other hand...I am developing considerable confidence in his natural tanking instincts.
 

Did you read the rest of my post? If you've ever played sports you should know the emotional toll it takes on players losing in the last seconds of games...it kills. I just don't want to see that happening to our guys every single game for the rest of the season. I want to let them be happy once or twice.
 
It really doesn't matter if it was a three. We'd still be down by one. What we have to hope for is that the Wizards defense is able to block a shot... or force a miss... and I don't have any confidence in them to do either.
Wouldnt it have been 105-105 if it were a three?
 
Wouldnt it have been 105-105 if it were a three?

It wouldn't matter since subsequent to that we fouled the Wizards and put them at the line. They got one of two, so even if the score had been 105-105 because of the three, it would have been 106-105 after the free throws.
 
Unfortunately I expect a win here, but let's be clear about the significance of this one:

we are 14-51

the Wizards are 15-51


We have already lost to them once this season.


If we win: both teams are 15-51, not sure who will get the tiebreaker (we will be 1-1 on the season so it will go to the second breaker). They could very well pass us for last place.

If we lose: we are 14-52, they are 16-51 AND they will have beat us in both games this season. So if we lose, we are basically THREE games behind them with 16 to play (if both teams finish wiht 16 wins or whatever, we still finsih behidn them) . Its almost too much to hope for given how we have been playing, but a loss here could give us a huge leg up (or down) on that worst record chase.

lol.
That is the funniest line I have read on here in a long time.
 
It wouldn't matter since subsequent to that we fouled the Wizards and put them at the line. They got one of two, so even if the score had been 105-105 because of the three, it would have been 106-105 after the free throws.

We probably wouldn't have fouled him if it were a three, they wouldve just had the last second shot. And in all likely hood they probably would have won anyway.
 
Did you read the rest of my post? If you've ever played sports you should know the emotional toll it takes on players losing in the last seconds of games...it kills. I just don't want to see that happening to our guys every single game for the rest of the season. I want to let them be happy once or twice.


Tell you what -- if the Kings can lose every single game between now and the game vs. the Lakers on April 7th, I will relent and say they have earned themsleves a happy moment for that night. :D
 
We probably wouldn't have fouled him if it were a three, they wouldve just had the last second shot. And in all likely hood they probably would have won anyway.

You're playing what if and trying to rewrite the scenario to meet your needs. I'm merely stating a fact. And I think you're totally wrong, BTW, about us not fouling and putting the Wizards at the line. There's NO WAY you give them an uncontested chance to win the game and run out the clock. You put them at the line and hope you can at least have a chance, which we did.
 
Tell you what -- if the Kings can lose every single game between now and the game vs. the Lakers on April 7th, I will relent and say they have earned themsleves a happy moment for that night. :D

Um, point of order, if I may?

I'd like to point out that I will be in Arco on March 31, along with a whole building full of very enthusiastic Kings fans. I fully expect the team to step up and win in Vlade's honor...
 
Dominic McGuire --> 5 points, 8 rebounds, 9 assists and 3 blocks. :eek:

Also, lost in the shuffle was a nice game from Beno, 10/7/4.
 
You're playing what if and trying to rewrite the scenario to meet your needs. I'm merely stating a fact. And I think you're totally wrong, BTW, about us not fouling and putting the Wizards at the line. There's NO WAY you give them an uncontested chance to win the game and run out the clock. You put them at the line and hope you can at least have a chance, which we did.
Sorry, I have to challenge this statement:

The score was 102-105. If Garcia's shot had counted as a three, the score would have been 105-105. If I understand you correctly, you're saying that we would have then fouled them at that point? In a tie game? What on earth for?
 
You're playing what if and trying to rewrite the scenario to meet your needs. I'm merely stating a fact. And I think you're totally wrong, BTW, about us not fouling and putting the Wizards at the line. There's NO WAY you give them an uncontested chance to win the game and run out the clock. You put them at the line and hope you can at least have a chance, which we did.

VF...im not quite getting what you are saying... we were down by 3 Garcia hit the shot. If it was a 3 the game would have been tied at 105...why would the Kings foul and put the Wiz at the line to win it with 3 seconds left in the game rather than let them just play defense and hope they miss? I may be playing the "what if" but it wouldn't make any sense otherwise to assume that the Kings would still purposely foul the Wiz with 3 seconds left...I don't see how not fouling them automatically gives them a "uncontested" shot...Sorry if I'm missing something but I don't think I am.
 
You're playing what if and trying to rewrite the scenario to meet your needs. I'm merely stating a fact. And I think you're totally wrong, BTW, about us not fouling and putting the Wizards at the line. There's NO WAY you give them an uncontested chance to win the game and run out the clock. You put them at the line and hope you can at least have a chance, which we did.


huh? If it were tied why would we foul and give them free points? They would have the final opportunity to win the game and it would go on from there.
 
I believe I explained myself. They would have had the ball with seconds left on the clock. They could easily have run it down and scored, thus winning the game. Instead, we fouled and put them on the line to give ourselves a final chance. Whether the score was 105-105 at that point or 105-104 was pretty much irrelevant as far as what happened after that. If you disagree, then we'll simply agree that we see it differently. And if I'm totally wrong, write it off to old age...

It doesn't matter anyway, since it clearly looked to me like his toenail was on the line making it a two regardless.

:p
 
I believe I explained myself. They would have had the ball with seconds left on the clock. They could easily have run it down and scored, thus winning the game. Instead, we fouled and put them on the line to give ourselves a final chance. Whether the score was 105-105 at that point or 105-104 was pretty much irrelevant as far as what happened after that. If you disagree, then we'll simply agree that we see it differently.
But why would you put them on the line rather than play defense for three seconds and take your chances in overtime? Or was your statement rather meant to be an indictment of the Kings' defense? That you have no faith in our ability to get a stop in three seconds, with the game on the line?
 
But why would you put them on the line rather than play defense for three seconds and take your chances in overtime? Or was your statement rather meant to be an indictment of the Kings' defense? That you have no faith in our ability to get a stop in three seconds, with the game on the line?

Ding! Ding! Ding!!!
 
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