Lu DortMarvin Bagley is an average NBA player. Buddy Hield is also an average NBA player. If we could somehow trade both of those guys for a legit superstsar or a legit young prospect, we’d most likely reach playoffs this season.
Holmes has put up numbers and his play has been good relative to what should be expected of him. But I still think he should be traded. He simply doesn't fit what they want on offense (a faciliating big) and he doesn't have the length to be a true switching interior presence.
Holmes at this point had, (1) EARNED the starting role (2) scores off scraps (3) got stronger every year since his rookie season (4) parents celebrate wins and family does a lot for the community. I'll forever root for Holmes success, here or elsewhere but preferably here.
And in reality, he’s not a lockdown defender. I think he’s a solid defender and sometimes, if you stick him on certain guys, he’s extremely good but faster players, he doesn’t handle well anymore. I really would at this point see Kyle Guy and Justin James and Jahmius Ramsey because those 3 might have a future with us as opposed to CojoHow does Cojo play 28+ mins and get ZERO assists?
How does Cojo play 28+ mins and get ZERO assists?
And in reality, he’s not a lockdown defender. I think he’s a solid defender and sometimes, if you stick him on certain guys, he’s extremely good but faster players, he doesn’t handle well anymore. I really would at this point see Kyle Guy and Justin James and Jahmius Ramsey because those 3 might have a future with us as opposed to Cojo
Trade him to Phoenix for Kaminsky and Damian Jones (25 yr old former 1st rd pick by GSW).Holmes has put up numbers and his play has been good relative to what should be expected of him. But I still think he should be traded. He simply doesn't fit what they want on offense (a faciliating big) and he doesn't have the length to be a true switching interior presence.
I don’t understand Bagleys dads perspective. It’s not like the Kings haven’t given Bagley every possible opportunity to succeed. He’s been given starters minutes every time he’s been healthy, which hasn’t been often. He’s been a central part of the offense with 12 fga per game since he was drafted. Every failing he’s experienced is solely his and his fathers fault as far as I’m concerned.
After watching 6 games. I don't think BAGS is starter material yet. I think Walton has been too nice giving Bagley starter minutes. He could grow a lot more being a 6man for the Kings. I also think it would be nice to see Jabari, or Belly get run with the starters instead.He angry Bags hasn’t been used much in the 4th quarter this season, and it seems unlikely that will change even if Bags becomes more efficient in his minutes since the small lineup with Holmes, Barnes, Buddy, Hali, and Fox seems like it will be Luke’s go to...for good reason so far. So I think his reaction is based on Bagley having an OK game, the Kings collectively having a terrible game, but Bagley not getting back in when the lineup on the floor wasn’t getting it done....but he also sees the writing on the wall that Marvin might not get to be a 4th quarter player this season.
not really. He’s a liability but he’ll do great in Europe.Actually, he’s been solid in most of the games
We really should have played Whiteside especially two games ago when C. Wood was torching Bagley.After watching 6 games. I don't think BAGS is starter material yet. I think Walton has been too nice giving Bagley starter minutes. He could grow a lot more being a 6man for the Kings. I also think it would be nice to see Jabari, or Belly get run with the starters instead.
If the Kings trade Holmes and keep Bagley - then omg no way come on... they will never learnTrade him to Phoenix for Kaminsky and Damian Jones (25 yr old former 1st rd pick by GSW).
I don't think he's untouchable but moving him now just to eyebleach the anger of him not being a different player everybody wanted to draft would be foolish.Bagley will always be a bitter reminder of a blown draft and Vlade's overall debacle of a tenure. I pray we trade him for whatever the market will bear. The core is Fox + Haliburton. Bagley will always be symbolic of "superteam just young that never materialized" (Fox, Bagley, Giles). I just want it over with.
I should be more clear... I think we should trade him because he has a lame work ethic - still has a useless right hand - can't hang onto the ball - AND is a constant reminder of a blown draft and a blown plan by a failed GM. If he had come to the league and worked... we would be seeing a guy with SOME right hand and the ability to maintain a grip on the ball in traffic.I don't think he's untouchable but moving him now just to eyebleach the anger of him not being a different player everybody wanted to draft would be foolish.
That's not the conclusion I would draw. I'd say it's more specific than that.I guess the world has gone insane.