[Game] Kings vs Rockets, 1/14/2022 7pm PT/10pm ET

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Kings reaping the benefits of the Bagley/Barnes/Buddy/Fox core several years too late for it to matter. That lineup plus Mitchell at the point of attack was absolutely giving the Rockets fits.
Whats with this too late BS? No sane person should have expected a bunch of guys on rookie contracts to form a core that shook the NBA. There is a reason most players begin to peak in their early to mid twenties not their late teens. All four are still here and Bags rights belong to the Kings. If this group really is maturing into a solid young core then the Kings future looks good.
 
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Bagley was never handed the lead pick and roll slot around Fox. He played PF and literally transitioned to a stretch 4, a position that right now is one of the lowest valued slots in the game if you aren't an elite shooter.
Bagley had since improved on his defense. Big men almost always need more time to develop in the league.
 
Whats with this too late BS? N sane person should have expected a bunch of guys on rookie contracts to form a core that shook the NBA. There is a reason most players begin to peak in their early to mid twenties not their late teens. All four are still here and Bags rights belong to the Kings. If this group really is maturing into a solid young core then the Kings future looks good.
Maybe we are too old. Young kids nowadays need everything right at their doorstep right away or it's a bust.
 
Bagley was never handed the lead pick and roll slot around Fox. He played PF and literally transitioned to a stretch 4, a position that right now is one of the lowest valued slots in the game if you aren't an elite shooter.

Holmes excelled in the same role Bagley was ill suited for though without attempting a single three. All he needed to do was convert on 10-15 footers, set screens, and rebound the ball. If you wanted to argue that Bagley didn't succeed in that role because Luke Walton doesn't know how to coach I would agree with you. But it wasn't a matter of lack of opportunity. Vlade picked Bagley and Walton over Dave Joerger and common sense and staked his job on it. I'm happy that Marvin is finally playing well, I just don't want to see us re-writing history and pretending like he wasn't force fed chances to prove himself every time he was healthy the last 3 years.
 
Bagley had since improved on his defense. Big men almost always need more time to develop in the league.

And my whole gripe is that if they drafted him for his defense? Stupid. He's a numbers guy, plain and simple. Hopefully in time some defense comes with experience but with a number 2 pick those numbers better come from day 1.
 
And my whole gripe is that if they drafted him for his defense? Stupid. He's a numbers guy, plain and simple. Hopefully in time some defense comes with experience but with a number 2 pick those numbers better come from day 1.
Yeah but that's all said and done now at this point. Why don't we just enjoy the fact that he is slowly growing into who we thought he could be...
 
Holmes excelled in the same role Bagley was ill suited for though without attempting a single three. All he needed to do was convert on 10-15 footers, set screens, and rebound the ball. If you wanted to argue that Bagley didn't succeed in that role because Luke Walton doesn't know how to coach I would agree with you. But it wasn't a matter of lack of opportunity. Vlade picked Bagley and Walton over Dave Joerger and common sense and staked his job on it. I'm happy that Marvin is finally playing well, I just don't want to see us re-writing history and pretending like he wasn't force fed chances to prove himself every time he was healthy the last 3 years.

He didn't put him in that role to begin with. It was a duality of trying to both win and develop. Dumb. And now the Kings get to pay the price for it. It's nothing new, they've done this time and time again. With a production big it's all about time. 25 mpg isn't enough. There's a big difference betwen 20 and 10 and 15 and 7.
 
Christian Wood is super Richaun Holmes. Effort plays? Yes. Efficient offense? Yes. Mind boggling plays that end badly for his team? Yes.

When does Holmes make mind boggling plays that end badly? I feel like he makes the least amount of head scratching plays of any player I've ever seen in a Kings uni.
 
He didn't put him in that role to begin with. It was a duality of trying to both win and develop. Dumb. And now the Kings get to pay the price for it. It's nothing new, they've done this time and time again. With a production big it's all about time. 25 mpg isn't enough. There's a big difference betwen 20 and 10 and 15 and 7.

But he was injured for almost all of his second season and half of his third. He can't get minutes in street clothes and the team still had to find someone to take his place.
 
When does Holmes make mind boggling plays that end badly? I feel like he makes the least amount of head scratching plays of any player I've ever seen in a Kings uni.
His mistakes aren't necessarily of the Buddy Hield jacks up a covered three with 22 seconds left on the shot clock variety but they're of the tries too hard where he barrels into the butt of the other team's shooting guard trying to set an unnecessary back screen.
 
But he was injured for almost all of his second season and half of his third. He can't get minutes in street clothes and the team still had to find someone to take his place.

That's why I said the minutes he did have available made it that much more important in the end. In the games he played it looked like they were executing his development like 7 year contracts were still a thing.
 
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