[Game] Kings v. Pelicans - 1/13/16 - 7 PT, 10 ET

funkykingston

Super Moderator
Staff member
Like the other posters on here said. Karl is gonna say the same old story. They "punched us and we didn't punch back, we play like kids in a grown man league" blah blah. The constant switching, small ball, and perimeter play is insane
I can see why Karl tends to wear thin on players. Lots of criticism to the media but no scheme to change issues, just blame shifted to the players.

Every video and written account of practice I've seen is focused on offense, running and playing at a fast pace. Lots of post game talk about defense but it sure sounds to me like there's not enough emphasis put on it by Karl and the assumption/thought that defense is just something the players should do.

It's not a player issue when every single P&R is switched. That's scheme. And in today's NBA it's the worst approach. Why not starting hedging those pick & rolls? Or using an Ice/down approach? Try something different at least since it's clear what's being employed doesn't work.

I'm tired of beating the Malone drum and waxing nostalgic for that short stretch of good basketball last season even if it was the last time I was encouraged by the Kings in the last decade or so.

But I will say this - whether Malone's brief window of surprising success was sustainable or not at least I felt like the team showed up and played hard each night.

Now? I'm almost starting to dread game nights because there's a good chance that the dysfunctional, sloppy and flat out awful version of the Kings will show up making for a frustrating waste of an evening.

If you lose while giving a full effort, scrapping and staying true to your identity as a team I'm fine with that. But this? Not so much.
 

dude12

Hall of Famer
Just a lethargic pee poor effort on our part and their is zero reason for it. Shots aren't falling tonight so far so it just compounds are bad defense. We have 2 guards who can play decent defense and they play 7 minutes and 0 minutes.
 

kingsboi

Hall of Famer
I guess this team came back down to earth and are playing just like we all expected them to after a week high or so...it was nice while it lasted I suppose. Until the next road win and then optimism will flood the boards again.
 
All we know is when Kings don't play defense they're bad, but when they can't get offense in gear total train wreck. Come out after half with all out D effort or forget it I've got better things to do than sit around watching don't give a damn multi-millionaire slackers. Put up or flat shut up Sacramento Kings.
 
Issues:

-Not a lot of quickness out there.
-Offensive approach is putting no pressure on New Orleans. The Pels are bad defensively. Kings just passing around the perimeter, shooting jumpers.
-Not many calls for the Kings inside.
-Not enough of the Casspi/Gay/Cousins lineup that tends to produce the best
 
I can see why Karl tends to wear thin on players. Lots of criticism to the media but no scheme to change issues, just blame shifted to the players.

Every video and written account of practice I've seen is focused on offense, running and playing at a fast pace. Lots of post game talk about defense but it sure sounds to me like there's not enough emphasis put on it by Karl and the assumption/thought that defense is just something the players should do.

It's not a player issue when every single P&R is switched. That's scheme. And in today's NBA it's the worst approach. Why not starting hedging those pick & rolls? Or using an Ice/down approach? Try something different at least since it's clear what's being employed doesn't work.

I'm tired of beating the Malone drum and waxing nostalgic for that short stretch of good basketball last season even if it was the last time I was encouraged by the Kings in the last decade or so.

But I will say this - whether Malone's brief window of surprising success was sustainable or not at least I felt like the team showed up and played hard each night.

Now? I'm almost starting to dread game nights because there's a good chance that the dysfunctional, sloppy and flat out awful version of the Kings will show up making for a frustrating waste of an evening.

If you lose while giving a full effort, scrapping and staying true to your identity as a team I'm fine with that. But this? Not so much.
Same here with Malone this guy has the freaking nuggets up by 6 with 4 left to go in the 4th on the dubs, and you can say his team here was just trash but at least he maximized everyone
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I guess this team came back down to earth and are playing just like we all expected them to after a week high or so...it was nice while it lasted I suppose. Until the next road win and then optimism will flood the boards again.
They're very consistently inconsistent. The panic of two weeks ago is just as out of place as the euphoria.

They are 14-15 with Cousins. Very consistent. 1 good night. 1 bad night. The part that makes no sense is the good and bad nights don't line up to any known predictive model. Guys roll out of the left side of bed and they're great. They roll out of the right side of the bed, and they've awful. Makes no sense.
 
It's not a player issue when every single P&R is switched. That's scheme. And in today's NBA it's the worst approach. Why not starting hedging those pick & rolls? Or using an Ice/down approach? Try something different at least since it's clear what's being employed doesn't work.
I agree with everything you said except that switching everything is always a bad idea. If the Kings were using a lineup that included Rudy, WCS, and a third decent sized wing who could defend, The Kings could actually do a ton of switching and be a pretty tough defense. The fact that Karl knows his defensive schemes are switch heavy and he STILL runs lineups severely undersized is insane to me.
 

dude12

Hall of Famer
Just don't understand how this team came out 4-5 games ago and made an effort to play defense with energy and then comes out tonight with very little effort.

Well, I hope the team gets hot because the only way they win is to try and outscore them after half....it's the George Karl way.
 

kingsboi

Hall of Famer
They're very consistently inconsistent. The panic of two weeks ago is just as out of place as the euphoria.

They are 14-15 with Cousins. Very consistent. 1 good night. 1 bad night. The part that makes no sense is the good and bad nights don't line up to any known predictive model. Guys roll out of the left side of bed and they're great. They roll out of the right side of the bed, and they've awful. Makes no sense.
It can't possibly be the loser mentality, can it? :eek:
 
Just don't understand how this team came out 4-5 games ago and made an effort to play defense with energy and then comes out tonight with very little effort.

Well, I hope the team gets hot because the only way they win is to try and outscore them after half....it's the George Karl way.
108.6 points against a game. worst in the league. We need to average 110 a game to be a .500 team (a full 2 points worse than anyone else...)
 

gunks

Hall of Famer
They're very consistently inconsistent. The panic of two weeks ago is just as out of place as the euphoria.

They are 14-15 with Cousins. Very consistent. 1 good night. 1 bad night. The part that makes no sense is the good and bad nights don't line up to any known predictive model. Guys roll out of the left side of bed and they're great. They roll out of the right side of the bed, and they've awful. Makes no sense.
The talent is there, coaching is lacking.

Hence the inconsistency.

My take on it anyways.
 

funkykingston

Super Moderator
Staff member
I agree with everything you said except that switching everything is always a bad idea. If the Kings were using a lineup that included Rudy, WCS, and a third decent sized wing who could defend, The Kings could actually do a ton of switching and be a pretty tough defense. The fact that Karl knows his defensive schemes are switch heavy and he STILL runs lineups severely undersized is insane to me.
The issue with switches generally isn't the big that has to contain a PG (Cousins still struggles with this and Koufos is too slow afoot but WCS, Acy, Gay & Casspi do well) but that those 1-5 or 1-4 P&Rs lead to a big posting Rondo or Collison - something that a number of opponents have taken advantage of over and over in games.