rhythmless
Starter
Wow that's terrible. Vivek really wants that 8th seed and nothing else
Kings seriously pursuing Pau Gasol (multiple sources)
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Wow that's terrible. Vivek really wants that 8th seed and nothing else
rhythmless
Starter
He went back to where most of his career was. Where he first started. Where he became a superstar. Where he has friends in the organization. That's why. What's Pau's connection to Sac? Absolutely nothing.
SacKings384
Starter
Looks like crisis has been averted. Deadline has passed. Wish we could have moved Rudy for something, but thankfully that something wasn't Pau and Snell.
Peter_Gibbons
Starter
Let's hope Mike Ortiz Jr is just trying to get clicks and followers. Sounds like a terrible trade unless other valuable pieces from the Bulls are coming to us.
notoriousBEN3
Bench
Is doing nothing right now really the worst thing we could have done? The team is in the process of looking for a GM and head coach. Perimeter defense is a huge concern, but i for one think that the system is more important than the individual players. We need a new system first before we decide which players fit best. I would have welcomed some defensive moves today, but the playoffs are a long shot this season anyways, it may be smarter just to stay put.
Lets ask Rudy Gay, Caron Butler and Ben McLemore.
Shaqfuey
Bench
Yeah, our glaring weakness at front office management and team leadership.
parker
Bench
There is always the offseason to move those players who don't want to be here. Plus, I don't get the sense that those players are as disgruntled as a random tweet would have us believe. Butler, if I recall, was one of the players who disputed the idea that Karl had optional practices or that only 3-4 people showed up.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
The larger concerns are how the failure to make a move
1) disrupts whatever chemistry we have
2) could cost us Rondo
3) could cost Vlade his position if we don't rally
1) disrupts whatever chemistry we have
2) could cost us Rondo
3) could cost Vlade his position if we don't rally
Section 101
All-Star
Playoff run not out of reach. Looks like Memphis just folded. Traded Green for Stephenson. They have a good chance of dropping out of the playoffs.
Blob
Starter
Between proposed trades that didn't happen and threatened firings that didn't happen pretty sure this group will be go through the motions the next 29 games. When you have 3-4 guys looking to greener pastures (allegedly) and a head coach everyone knows is on his way out that's not exactly an environment conducive to winning.
I hoped Vlade could have at least swung a deal for Snell or Shumpert to give us some hope on the perimeter by pawning off Koufos or Marco. Instead we are left with this uninspiring group of underachievers. If we come out of the break and play like we did before it....this team will be holding on to its 2016 pick which I would hope we trade. That's the only silver liming I can think of.
I guess also no trade to upgrade the team increases Karl is gone since only a dramatic turnaround could save his job. I really wonder what the Bulls wanted to make a deal because it seems like they were just playing games all along trying to steal players for nothing and play Vlade for a fool.
I hoped Vlade could have at least swung a deal for Snell or Shumpert to give us some hope on the perimeter by pawning off Koufos or Marco. Instead we are left with this uninspiring group of underachievers. If we come out of the break and play like we did before it....this team will be holding on to its 2016 pick which I would hope we trade. That's the only silver liming I can think of.
I guess also no trade to upgrade the team increases Karl is gone since only a dramatic turnaround could save his job. I really wonder what the Bulls wanted to make a deal because it seems like they were just playing games all along trying to steal players for nothing and play Vlade for a fool.
Blob
Starter
If you think a 40% win team is all of the sudden going to win 70% of their games you have a lot more confidence in this group than I do.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
The difference being that in the West this year it hardly takes 70% winning to get in. It would to matter of course.
Well right now the 8th seed is the Jazz with 26-26, so to get there (.500) we'll need to go 19-10 which is... 65.5%.
Blob
Starter
The 7th and 8th seed are .500. Assuming they continue on same pace we need to win about 70% of our remaining games....19-10 or 20-9 or thereabouts.
Section 101
All-Star
And if the Griz win 25% of their games the rest of the way? And drop to 37 wins.
Blob
Starter
Jeff Green isn't that good.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Pretty slim odds of them not making it, but I guess hope springs eternal. If they win 10 games and lose 19 the rest of the season, they'll end up at 41 and 41. For us to tie them, we would have to win 19, and lose 10. What are the odd's of us doing that based on what we've seen so far. Catching either Portland or Utah is more resaonable, but if they just play 500 basketball the rest of the way, once again we would have to go 19/10 to tie them. When you have to catch and climb over more than one team, it gets a lot harder.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
He is to the Clips with the Blake Griffin situation.
Some of this is unsubstantiated rumor (Darren Collison already denied the report that said he wanted out) but I suspect George Karl is the main issue for all of them. Rudy Gay was happy to be here last year up until we pulled the rug out from under him and the rest of the team with the Malone firing. Caron Butler looked happy to be a Sacramento King in the off-season. Ben didn't seem to have a problem until Marco got all of his minutes despite doing nothing to earn them. If George Karl has got 1/3 of the team asking out after half a season, the question remains why is he still here?
Blob
Starter
That may be but I was addressing the notion that the Grizzlies will only win 25% of their games without him.
whozit
Starter
Possibly viewed as the lesser of two evils. Can him with nothing lined up and possibly have a repeat of the disaster of last year? All the while continuing the story line of a franchise in disarray.
Or. Let the season play out. Get a GM "assistant" and then do a proper coaching search.
Blob
Starter
Probably (1) Lieberman and Corliss as interim coaches would have been in over their heads per estimation of our GM (2) hiring new (right) coach on fly on down low this time of year is no easy task and (3) paying three coaches for one job was scoffed at by minority owners and (4) giving players another cop-out for their failure sets bad precedent and (5) Karl was not going to agree to a buyout and (7) getting the right coach this summer will be easier because we can say we gave Karl a full season to work his "magic" and (8) Boogie did not push for his dismissal.
And maybe Vlade was banking on a trade to help his head coach to solve perimeter defense and SG woes. Only portion of the blame albeit large was placed at his feet given roster weakness. Basically we could have and should have fired him but he got an 11th hour reprieve. Today was more bad news for Karl regardless of how he tries to play it to the media. He needed help through infusion of talent and he didn't get it.
John Galt
Starter
I don't mind if they fire Vlade at season's end. I feel taken hook line and sinker by the guy. Wonder if Caron & Ben feel the same. Rudy? George? The guys on George's staff who haven't been whacked out from under him yet? The other players who, along with the fans, have been given the finger (yet again) and told to suck it up for 29 more futile games?
On Vlade's watch. This is his.
Bummer. So funny to think back when the 31 game over/under looked like such easy money for gamblers.
I'm a Kings fan - I will go to the games and enjoy watching the ballplayers play ball. But this franchise just completely blows. Great job Vivek going into the new arena on any kind of a high note. Thank God... thank the good God almighty... that nobody had to buy PSL's (although I guess the poor club guys had to commit to 3 or 5 years).
On Vlade's watch. This is his.
Bummer. So funny to think back when the 31 game over/under looked like such easy money for gamblers.
I'm a Kings fan - I will go to the games and enjoy watching the ballplayers play ball. But this franchise just completely blows. Great job Vivek going into the new arena on any kind of a high note. Thank God... thank the good God almighty... that nobody had to buy PSL's (although I guess the poor club guys had to commit to 3 or 5 years).
ParniValjak
All-Star
I rather we don't make a move than make a wrong one. I think the roster is good enough but systems need to change.
Having said that, I am disappointed we didn't get into the conversation for Courtney Lee. He would have been a perfect fit for this team at SG.
Having said that, I am disappointed we didn't get into the conversation for Courtney Lee. He would have been a perfect fit for this team at SG.
Sure it is. We just need to play a system better suited to our talents
