Kings & Rudy Gay reach agreement on 3 year contract extension!

[Tetsujin]

I hope Andre Iguodala will one day be somewhere kicking himself, if he isn't already. There's a different kind of special bond
this team has with it's fans here in Sacramento, and he'll never have that feeling. His loss.

Well, I'm sure he's doing just fine on the bench in Golden State

 

[Flopi]

Anyway, didn't extensions need to be done by end of October?! Am I missing something here?

I'm not sure but I think this deadline applies for rookie contracts extensions only.

 

[Kingston Jamaica]

I'm going to say something that will probably create some noise. Based on this seasons games I don't think that there's a serious gap (if at all) between Rudy's and Melo's game at least in offense. Rudy is probably a better defender and better rebounder. Rudy also seems to be connected to the Kings offense while the Knicks offense is connected to Melo.

Looking at the difference in their contracts, I'll take Rudy any day of the week. Yeah, I think this was a very nice deal.

 

[R2D2]

And DMC would have been wearing Laker gold.

Well, if it was up to the Magoof brothers he would have probably been wearing the black and purple for the Seattle Kings...
Thank you Mayor Johnson for not leaving it up to them!

As per the Gay news - I see this as a true win-win situation.
The financials make a lot of sense for an organization like the Kings (who usually have to over pay for players like Rudy to lure them to come/stay at Sactown), while Rudy finds a long(er) term home with a team that seems to have a great upside, with DMC, DC and now Gay as a good committed core to work with.
This is indeed great work from PDA, and kudos to Ranadivé who is leading this mentality shift to building a winning organization. This is no easy feat!

 

[Kingster]

It makes very good financial sense. Per C. Dave, it allows the Kings to sign a max player for next year and have plenty left over for a bench, given the safe assumption D-Will will no longer be with the Kings. To get their money's worth on a player close to a max contract the Kings really need to get in the playoffs. They will then get a quality player for their money.

 

[twslam07]

It makes very good financial sense. Per C. Dave, it allows the Kings to sign a max player for next year and have plenty left over for a bench, given the safe assumption D-Will will no longer be with the Kings. To get their money's worth on a player close to a max contract the Kings really need to get in the playoffs. They will then get a quality player for their money.

It does? I have their cap room at $10.3 mil next year (Cousins, Gay, Landry, Thompson, Collison, McLemore, Stauskas, Sessions, McCallum, & Moreland = $56.2 mil --> $66.5 mil salary cap - $56.2 mil payroll = $10.3 mil in cap space).

I guess if you don't want to pick up McLemore's team option and waive McCallum & Moreland, you would have $15.3 mil in cap space, but I don't see them doing that. Do you?

 

[km23]

I'm jumping with joy. We got a huge bargain based off of what other contracts have been givin out recently.

Also just this summer we had no idea if Rudy was even considering comin back next year and now we have him timed for 3 more years! All board the Rudy Train!!!

 

[Chubbs]

It does? I have their cap room at $10.3 mil next year (Cousins, Gay, Landry, Thompson, Collison, McLemore, Stauskas, Sessions, McCallum, & Moreland = $56.2 mil --> $66.5 mil salary cap - $56.2 mil payroll = $10.3 mil in cap space).

I guess if you don't want to pick up McLemore's team option and waive McCallum & Moreland, you would have $15.3 mil in cap space, but I don't see them doing that. Do you?

To get a max level player, they'd have to seriously consider it, right?

They're probably factoring in the cap level rising.

 

[FaStRmAn]

AT LAST !! This team is RETAINING talent instead of BLEEDING talent ! That is the best sign of ALL !

 

[rainmaker]

It makes very good financial sense. Per C. Dave, it allows the Kings to sign a max player for next year and have plenty left over for a bench, given the safe assumption D-Will will no longer be with the Kings. To get their money's worth on a player close to a max contract the Kings really need to get in the playoffs. They will then get a quality player for their money.

Uh, did Dave attempt to provide the math he used to get to that conclusion?

 

[funkykingston]

Uh, did Dave attempt to provide the math he used to get to that conclusion?

Yeah, it's just that he doesn't seem to actually understand the details of the salary cap. He began the discussion by saying not to look at the salary cap but the luxury tax threshold because Vivek & co were willing to go to the luxury tax level. In his mind that meant the Kings had $20 million or so to play with.

Obviously you can't exceed the salary cap to sign free agents, only to resign your own so the rest of the discussion was essentially moot.

Now if the Kings TRADE for a player (with Bird rights) at the deadline who will is set to become a free agent in the offseason then obviously they can go over the cap to resign that player and then use the midlevel exception as well. And unless the biannual exception was used to sign Sessions (I don't remember) then that could be used to resign Casspi to a higher salary too.

 

[Kingster]

Uh, did Dave attempt to provide the math he used to get to that conclusion?

He did, but I was in the car so I don't have his numbers.

 

[gunks]

I've been critical of Rudy as a King, but most of that was based on the fear that we would have to massively overpay to retain him.

This contract is right on the money.

Welcome aboard for another 3 years Rudy! Go Kings!

 

[HereWeBoogie]

Uh, did Dave attempt to provide the math he used to get to that conclusion?

Something to do with the contract being back-loaded. But he was just taking educated guesses at the numbers

 

[bajaden]

I'm not sure but I think this deadline applies for rookie contracts extensions only.

You would be correct!

 

[bajaden]

To get a max level player, they'd have to seriously consider it, right?

They're probably factoring in the cap level rising.

The big cap jump will come the same year the new TV deal kicks in. The could cap go up to as high as 90 mil. Or so they say. I believe that's the 2017/18 season. Same year Cousins and Gay's current contracts expire. Good planning on their part.

 

[bajaden]

Yeah, it's just that he doesn't seem to actually understand the details of the salary cap. He began the discussion by saying not to look at the salary cap but the luxury tax threshold because Vivek & co were willing to go to the luxury tax level. In his mind that meant the Kings had $20 million or so to play with.

Obviously you can't exceed the salary cap to sign free agents, only to resign your own so the rest of the discussion was essentially moot.

Now if the Kings TRADE for a player (with Bird rights) at the deadline who will is set to become a free agent in the offseason then obviously they can go over the cap to resign that player and then use the midlevel exception as well. And unless the biannual exception was used to sign Sessions (I don't remember) then that could be used to resign Casspi to a higher salary too.

Even if we only have the 10 mil to work with, we can use the entire 10 mil, and then use the mid-level, or part of the mid-level to resign Casspi. Hopefully to more than one year. Not sure what they have in mind for Evans. Maybe resign him if we can't find someone better.

 

[NewArena]

Well, I'm sure he's doing just fine on the bench in Golden State

for sure. but the feel and support from our city, is unlike anything I've seen and heard about in other areas.
Just ask guys like Scot Pollard

 

[rainmaker]

Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 3h3 hours ago
Rudy Gay's extension starts next season at $12,403,101, then $13,333,333 and player option 17/18 for $14,263,566 @BBallInsiders

 

[Bricklayer]

From the press conference apparently.

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

Is Reggie Evans wearing a Chelsea kit?!?

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Pleasant surprise to see the whole team there. Slightly more surprising that Williams was invited.

 

[Fireplug]

Kings "Family" selfie at the pressor

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I'm only about seventy-five percent sure that that bird is photoshopped.

 

[Glenn]

I'm only about seventy-five percent sure that that bird is photoshopped.

I think it is real and is frantically trying to escape Reggie's beard.

 

[Bricklayer]

I'm only about seventy-five percent sure that that bird is photoshopped.

Oh. Come. ON.

People just simply have to be able to recognize an obvious shop when they see one. SMH.

Here was the original:

 

[Tetsujin]

Oh. Come. ON.

People just simply have to be able to recognize an obvious shop when they see one. SMH.

Here was the original:

Why were IT, Nate Robinson, Earl Boykins, and Spudd at the press conference?

 

[uolj]

We've got a new analytics nerd, but scrappy roleplayers are analytically invisible.

Noticed this before but didn't think much of it until a 538 article today reminded me. I think scrappy roleplayers may actually be less invisible to the analytically inclined. Depending on what you're doing for your analytics of course....

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/...ason-collins-lgbt-and-advanced-stats-pioneer/

...

Collins’s most important legacy will be as a trailblazer for the LGBT movement, but his retirement also deserves a footnote for his status as one of the first “hidden” stars of the NBA’s advanced stats movement.

...

(Farther away from the line (above) means analytics values the player much more than regular stats used by PER.)

The more interesting point being that if anybody was afraid of the stats geek ignoring roleplayers in favor of stat stuffers, that doesn't look to be an issue. This front office certainly seems to be more "Moneyball" in terms of finding inefficiencies in the system. Whether there is a battle between them and Nellie-ball disciples I think remains to be seen.