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From draftexpress:

I don't care much about height when it comes to rebounding....most of it is positioning and hustle. Barkley was 6'4"(I have the picture with him standing next to me to prove it!!!) and Rodman was maybe 6'7"(also have a picture with him :p) and they are two of the better rebounders I have seen.

Brockman has proven at the college level and the SPL that he can rebound so I wouldn't worry about his height....especially for a second round pick.
 
He's only a UFA if the Kings failed to "tender an offer". Not exactly sure what that means, but I assume that they needed to make some kind of offer. But it might not have to be guaranteed. And, it doesn't have to be excepted, so John & his agent could be looking overseas.

My guess is that the Kings didn't make an offer and aren't worried about losing a 2nd rounder. They throw away 2 last year.

Doing that with a mid-40's pick is a tad different than doing it with the 31st! What a waste if he's not signed. :rolleyes:
 
I'm 5'5"w/o shoes. 5'6.something" in shoes.

Why do you care? My posts can't possibly rock if I'm only 5'5".

Ready for it?

That's why I do it in shoes :D

OH, I am so off color!!!! Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Edit: I guess I should be pertinent and say sign the kid, huh?
 
I'm 5'5"w/o shoes. 5'6.something" in shoes.

Why do you care? My posts can't possibly rock if I'm only 5'5".

Ready for it?

That's why I do it in shoes :D

OH, I am so off color!!!! Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Edit: I guess I should be pertinent and say sign the kid, huh?

lmao.... post of the year candidate.... that was too funny.:D
 
Doing that with a mid-40's pick is a tad different than doing it with the 31st! What a waste if he's not signed. :rolleyes:

The 31st was used on Sergio.....remember the trade?

Thursday, June 25, 2009: SACRAMENTO, CA ---- The Sacramento Kings tonight acquired 6-3 guard Sergio Rodriguez, the draft rights to Jon Brockman (38th overall) and cash considerations from the Portland Trail Blazers in exchange for the draft rights to Jeff Pendergraph (31st overall), it was announced by Kings President Basketball Operations Geoff Petrie.

This was the pay back for them not taking Omri at 22. (Thats my theory).

KB
 
Brockman has proven at the college level and the SPL that he can rebound so I wouldn't worry about his height....especially for a second round pick.

Neither do I. The draftexpress article is used to justify Brockmans' height and nothing else.
 
He'll be signed. Count on it. :)
You have a very good tract record when saying something in the affirmative that management is going to do in regards to personnel decisions. I was hoping that they would sign him.
 
The 31st was used on Sergio.....remember the trade?

Thursday, June 25, 2009: SACRAMENTO, CA ---- The Sacramento Kings tonight acquired 6-3 guard Sergio Rodriguez, the draft rights to Jon Brockman (38th overall) and cash considerations from the Portland Trail Blazers in exchange for the draft rights to Jeff Pendergraph (31st overall), it was announced by Kings President Basketball Operations Geoff Petrie.

This was the pay back for them not taking Omri at 22. (Thats my theory).

KB


Yes I do remember, but we essentially still lost out on some serious talent at 31. They clearly wanted Brockman, if not, they could have had any one of Sam Young, Dejuan Blair, Dajuan Summers, etc. Those are 1st round talents right there. I don't like the idea of trading that pick for a 3rd string PG who might hardly play simply because he's at a stacked position. It will make it much easier to swallow if we still at least have that additional prospect. You shouldn't even waste a 38 pick really, still should be plenty of talent there, not to mention our focus on re-building with YOUNG talent.
 
Yes I do remember, but we essentially still lost out on some serious talent at 31. They clearly wanted Brockman, if not, they could have had any one of Sam Young, Dejuan Blair, Dajuan Summers, etc. Those are 1st round talents right there.

Remember that the trade was made prior to the draft, so we had no idea which players would actually be available at #31. I don't think it's by any means a slam-dunk that we were after Brockman and traded down rather than pick him at #31. It's probably more likely that we really wanted Sergio and cash to cover a lot of his contract, and were willing to drop 7 slots in the second round to get it.
 
Remember that the trade was made prior to the draft, so we had no idea which players would actually be available at #31. I don't think it's by any means a slam-dunk that we were after Brockman and traded down rather than pick him at #31. It's probably more likely that we really wanted Sergio and cash to cover a lot of his contract, and were willing to drop 7 slots in the second round to get it.

Agreed. They wanted to nail the (backup?) PG position down before the draft and address that need with someone who has played in the NBA already.
 
Remember that the trade was made prior to the draft, so we had no idea which players would actually be available at #31. I don't think it's by any means a slam-dunk that we were after Brockman and traded down rather than pick him at #31. It's probably more likely that we really wanted Sergio and cash to cover a lot of his contract, and were willing to drop 7 slots in the second round to get it.


The deal cleared a roster spot for the Blazers, that's what they wanted. They had the 33rd pick anyway. There was too much smoke around draft time that Brockman had a promise somewhere in the 2nd, so much in fact that he didn't work out for teams. I don't think the Kings really wanted Sergio per se, sure he's a nice prospect, but I'd bet they were approached with the deal and they took the money and ran with it. I just think it's ridiculous if Brockman was left unsigned considering he played well in summer league and that trade subsequently cost the Kings cap space and the 31st pick which was a shot at some big time talent that fell down the draft board, to right before the Kings at 38 in fact.

And since we still have Beno, and the Kings are adamant about Evans being a PG, that makes Sergio 3rd in line, not a "backup".
 
I definitely think the Kings wanted to get another PG and that's why they did the deal for Sergio before the draft.

As for Brockman, we don't know yet what they Kings are going to do as far as a deal goes. Don't get too worked up over something that hasn't happened yet (not signing Brockman).

It doesn't seem like anyone else is beating down Brockman's door, so what's the hurry? Sure, a fan, I'd like to know one way or another, but I can't get too concerned yet over whether we wasted a pick.
 
I definitely think the Kings wanted to get another PG and that's why they did the deal for Sergio before the draft.

As for Brockman, we don't know yet what they Kings are going to do as far as a deal goes. Don't get too worked up over something that hasn't happened yet (not signing Brockman).

It doesn't seem like anyone else is beating down Brockman's door, so what's the hurry? Sure, a fan, I'd like to know one way or another, but I can't get too concerned yet over whether we wasted a pick.

Last situation like this ended up with Ike Diogu simply walking out the door. Anyway you slice it, that was a loss. Wasting an opportunity to get talent that by all accounts should stick in the NBA based on what was available and where you originally picked is more than just the latest in a long list of waste. Like I said, 44th pick? I can deal. Potential 31st? For a 3rd string PG, the cap hit to take him, and maybe nothing? Nah, don't like it. Might have netted the Maloofs a quick buck but it hurts what is supposed to be the accumulation of young talent and future assets. That Sergio deal screams of the "sure, why not!", "hey, free money" variety to me.
 
That Sergio deal screams of the "sure, why not!", "hey, free money" variety to me.

I disagree - I thought they wanted him a while back and saw the opportunity to finally snag him, and this time with no loss of talent on our end. They wanted to shore up the PG position before the draft and did so.
 
I disagree - I thought they wanted him a while back and saw the opportunity to finally snag him, and this time with no loss of talent on our end. They wanted to shore up the PG position before the draft and did so.

Your absolutely right. Petrie had inquired about Sergio before. I'm sorry, but I can't get too worked up about a second round pick that were probably going to sign anyway. If you don't like the draft or the trades the FO is making, you can always find something to ***** about. You and others have offered logical reasons for why the deal was done. Sactown simply wants to believe the worse about the situation and will continue to beat this drum until the next song comes along. His choice to do that of course, but a waste of typing energy if you ask me....:rolleyes:
 
Beno is just a trade waiting to happen. He'll be lucky to find a spot to sit on the bench.

Well then they better START Beno and hope to heck he plays better than last year because I can tell you, if he's Evans' backup, he only gets traded if it's for a longer contract.
 
Your absolutely right. Petrie had inquired about Sergio before. I'm sorry, but I can't get too worked up about a second round pick that were probably going to sign anyway. If you don't like the draft or the trades the FO is making, you can always find something to ***** about. You and others have offered logical reasons for why the deal was done. Sactown simply wants to believe the worse about the situation and will continue to beat this drum until the next song comes along. His choice to do that of course, but a waste of typing energy if you ask me....:rolleyes:


And before Sergio would have been our backup at a position of need. 3rd in line is no longer what I'd consider a "position of need". I hope he does get signed, but it kind of reminds me of the Ike Diogu situation. Hmmm...you know what they say about history. :rolleyes:
 
And before Sergio would have been our backup at a position of need. 3rd in line is no longer what I'd consider a "position of need". I hope he does get signed, but it kind of reminds me of the Ike Diogu situation. Hmmm...you know what they say about history. :rolleyes:

Well to be honest, I didn't get too worked up over Diogu either. After I looked up his entire record in the NBA game by game it became apparent to me that he done this before. By that, I mean have two or three really great games, and then disappear for four or five games. His career has marked with inconsistancy. So as a result, I didn't feel the need to be too concerned about whether we resigned him or not.

Was he at a point in his career where he was going to become consistant and blossom into the player he was predicted to become? I have no idea. But I'm not sure I would have wanted to spend much money to find out at this point. We'll see! You could end up being right. Or, mayby not....:D
 
I definitely think the Kings wanted to get another PG and that's why they did the deal for Sergio before the draft.

As for Brockman, we don't know yet what they Kings are going to do as far as a deal goes. Don't get too worked up over something that hasn't happened yet (not signing Brockman).

It doesn't seem like anyone else is beating down Brockman's door, so what's the hurry? Sure, a fan, I'd like to know one way or another, but I can't get too concerned yet over whether we wasted a pick.
Doesn't the fact that no one else is beating down Brockman's door, say something about him and the trade that got him. Of course, GP basicly throw away 2 early 2nd rounders last year, could mean that he doesn't think 2nd rounders are worth worrying about.

To me this means that what GP really wanted was Sergio. I see Sergio as the true playmaking PG, who could end up being the starter, if Tyreke struggles at PG.

But, the Kings and Brockman could have agreed to a deal in principal and haven't finalized the contract as yet.
 
Doesn't the fact that no one else is beating down Brockman's door, say something about him and the trade that got him. Of course, GP basicly throw away 2 early 2nd rounders last year, could mean that he doesn't think 2nd rounders are worth worrying about.

To me this means that what GP really wanted was Sergio. I see Sergio as the true playmaking PG, who could end up being the starter, if Tyreke struggles at PG.

But, the Kings and Brockman could have agreed to a deal in principal and haven't finalized the contract as yet.

How can anyone else beat down his door when the Kings own his rights?
 
Well to be honest, I didn't get too worked up over Diogu either. After I looked up his entire record in the NBA game by game it became apparent to me that he done this before. By that, I mean have two or three really great games, and then disappear for four or five games. His career has marked with inconsistancy. So as a result, I didn't feel the need to be too concerned about whether we resigned him or not.

Was he at a point in his career where he was going to become consistant and blossom into the player he was predicted to become? I have no idea. But I'm not sure I would have wanted to spend much money to find out at this point. We'll see! You could end up being right. Or, mayby not....:D

Yet he did show it and played a position of need. Instead the Kings pay a 3rd PG 2 million and Sean May 800,000 plus? I like both players but it just seems a little odd.
 
Doesn't the fact that no one else is beating down Brockman's door, say something about him and the trade that got him. Of course, GP basicly throw away 2 early 2nd rounders last year, could mean that he doesn't think 2nd rounders are worth worrying about.

To me this means that what GP really wanted was Sergio. I see Sergio as the true playmaking PG, who could end up being the starter, if Tyreke struggles at PG.

But, the Kings and Brockman could have agreed to a deal in principal and haven't finalized the contract as yet.

If Sergio commanded that kind of value on the Kings end the Blazers wouldn't have paid the Kings 1.1+ million more than his contract just to take him. Just doesn't really seem like a highly coveted player to me. I'm sure Geoff liked him, but for that kind of money why wouldn't he take him? The Kings had the space to facilitate the trade and were looking for cash and some talent return.
 
If Sergio commanded that kind of value on the Kings end the Blazers wouldn't have paid the Kings 1.1+ million more than his contract just to take him. Just doesn't really seem like a highly coveted player to me. I'm sure Geoff liked him, but for that kind of money why wouldn't he take him? The Kings had the space to facilitate the trade and were looking for cash and some talent return.

So let me get this straight. Your saying that if the Kings wanted Sergio they shouldn't have tried to snuker the Blazers. They should have been upfront about it and passed up the extra 1.2 mil and just made a trade for him.

If the Kings really were after Sergio, and history tells us that Petrie tried to aquire him before, and they were able to get the player they wanted plus 1.2 mil, I would think you would applaud the Kings for finally getting the better end of a deal.:rolleyes:
 
If the Kings really were after Sergio, and history tells us that Petrie tried to aquire him before, and they were able to get the player they wanted plus 1.2 mil, I would think you would applaud the Kings for finally getting the better end of a deal.:rolleyes:


I agree.
 
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