Kings=Raptors Trade proposal

[Aenadin]

heres another proposal since the Udrih signing completely ruined the barbosa to sac trade proposal i posted days ago

heres a little trade idea again

Kings Trade

Ron artest
John Salmons
2nd round pick next year

for

Raptors
Andrea Bargnani
Rasho Nesterovic or Anthony Parker


Why? kings do it?

Kings can start Bargnani at the SF position a big guy a little athletic IMO, and can shoot and clearly he isnt going to grow in Toronto playing behind bosh... aside from him being tall and he can shoot.. he complements the interior passing of Hawes and Thompson if they start, and opens the possibility of Martin to slash inside instead of camping the 3 point line... hes going to be like Peja v.2 only better defensively and more athletic IMO

Why Raptors do it?

They coveted SAlmons before... and im pretty sure they still do.. salmons can start the SG position and Artest the SF position. both being able to guard their man well especially artest.. something the raps need DEFENSE. this will solve the SALMONS needs to start to be effective problem making Kapono come off the bench for long range bombing aside from that artest can mentor jamario moon about defense. and gives room for quincy and Garcia to flourish even more

im just saying why not give bargs a try at SF hes not getting any PT in Tor and apparently werent they shopping him?

 

[jon e]

this is a horrible idea. andrea bargnani is a terrible basketball player. brian colangelo would laugh his *** off in disbelief if geoff called him with that proposal

 

[Aenadin]

it wouldnt hurt with him helping us get another lottery pick though? i wouldnt say bargnani is a horrible player yet he wasnt getting enough time behind bosh IMO he can play that im sure off. its sort of like a gamble with us

 

[SacKings7]

Nesterovic was traded for O'Neal, so it'd be Artest and Salmons for Bargnani and Parker. While I wouldn't do that anyway, it doesn't work in the trade checker.

 

[AriesMar27]

bargnani is a interesting prospect but that deal couldnt be done until trade deadline... the raptors would have to be sure that oneal can play before trading bargs.... id do it though... he has skills but isnt really a dominant player. bargs could become the next dirk, hes basically a 7 foot small forward....

but the real problem is that you couldnt trade artest to the raptors because oneal is on the team...

 

[Gary]

Salmons (if he has a trade clause) will veto it. He said "God told me not to play in Toronto" Or something close to that after Toronto just about signed him a few years back. He was already to go there then he pulled out at the last minute siting God telling him not to. I don't want to turn this into a god thread or anything but I think it would be a punk move by the Kings to do something like that to him even if this is a business.

 

[laziassazn]

honestly i think this is the worst trade idea ive ever seen. Why would the kings trade Artest who is a 20ppg guy and a excellent defender and John Salmons who is decent for an unporven 1st pick in Andrea Bargnani and Rasho Nisterovic who is a garbage player. Even if Anthony Parker was in the deal it would not be worth it.

 

[imabored]

honestly i think this is the worst trade idea ive ever seen. Why would the kings trade Artest who is a 20ppg guy and a excellent defender and John Salmons who is decent for an unporven 1st pick in Andrea Bargnani and Rasho Nisterovic who is a garbage player. Even if Anthony Parker was in the deal it would not be worth it.

it's going to happen. also the kings are suppose to be rebuilding anyways.

 

[Aenadin]

look if JO is there... its not going to be OUR problem any more... let the raps handle it... if bargnani is horrible now.. maybe enough playing time will let him flourish... he was playing positions that wasnt fit for him... At 5 and 4?? come on... if he played SF for us i think it will work

Raps line up

JO
Bosh
Artest
Salmons
Calderon

thats a playoff team that will go deep

whilst ours

Hawes (assuming miller is moved too)
Jason Thompson (assuming he wins the starters battle)
Bargnani
Martin
Udrih

we have a very young line up, defense will be a problem but look at the size of the front court, and rebounding will come in time.

 

[SacKings7]

Nobody must have read my previous post. This doesn't work in the trade checker

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...s=25~1726~2987~635&teams=28~28~23~23&te=&cash=

 

[mac]

Thats like giving away Artest for free... I don't think we should make stupid trades that give us far from equal value simply with the excuse that we're rebuilding and if our team sucks at least we got a lotto pick.

 

[Aenadin]

didnt see that i was estimating their salaries if artest wont go for him then we trade some one else for that guy... your right he might not work but at least he will bring us closer to a lottery pick at least... we get rid of salmons 3 more years contract... bargnanis contract expires one more year.... (together with KT right?) its just for one year and see what he is worth...​

 

[Aenadin]

A

Bargnani
Kapono

for

Artest
Salmons

works

i know this isnt one of my best ideas yet but at least this will help in the rebuild process we loose talent wise but we get enough youth for theus to work on

 

[mac]

But the point in rebuilding isn't to tank to get lottery picks, it's to get young players who are developing and who are probably gonna lose quite a bit to the more experienced vet teams, thus getting us lottery picks. This is like throwing away all your weapons and just walking into a war empty handed, aka surefire way to get screwed and as you said get a lotto pick. Sorry but I'm just against doing that.

Edit: this post wasn't a reply to OPs new trade idea btw.

 

[Aenadin]

as much as i hate losing and tanking (clearly i dont like the kings losing) its just an experiment for one year.. artest is as good as gone and with him in the roster it would just cause some problems


my other idea on a trade (non raptor)

was Brad and mikki for Tyrus and Hughes haha we clear up that log jam in bigs and start hawes and thompson... and let KT and sar rot in the bench

 

[laziassazn]

A

Bargnani
Kapono

for

Artest
Salmons

works

i know this isnt one of my best ideas yet but at least this will help in the rebuild process we loose talent wise but we get enough youth for theus to work on

this idea is even worse than the last. Kapono is wayyy worse than Parker.

 

[Aenadin]

bargnani is a interesting prospect but that deal couldnt be done until trade deadline... the raptors would have to be sure that oneal can play before trading bargs.... id do it though... he has skills but isnt really a dominant player. bargs could become the next dirk, hes basically a 7 foot small forward....

but the real problem is that you couldnt trade artest to the raptors because oneal is on the team...

some one agrees with that proposal its just taking a risk on a prospect its not like were giving away k-mart and a key young guy... were getting rid of artest, if o'neal is there water under the bridge let it go, its not indiana. and this would make them a defensive force in the east enough to get them past the first round

 

[AriesMar27]

bargs would be cool to get a 3rd team like the cavs or a team that needs outside shooting to take kapono.... we could get rid of artest and williams/moore (either one) for bargs and kapono who would go to a 3rd team for a back up pg....

 

[Aenadin]

id rather have us keep singeltary and have bargnani play for one year here... see what he can give on a full starters role.. and on the SF see what he can bring to the table its not like we are going any where with artest staying one more year

im not saying we tank... we still fight i hate tanking

 

[jon e]

this is THE WORST trade proposal of TDOS

 

[Aenadin]

im pretty sure there were worst than this before

i just threw it out there seeing what were the reactions and most were negative.. but what if a big WHAT IF he does have his break out year on this team just saying

 

[Big Cuz 15]

wasn't JO fed up w/ Ronny back in indiana?

 

[bajaden]

im pretty sure there were worst than this before

i just threw it out there seeing what were the reactions and most were negative.. but what if a big WHAT IF he does have his break out year on this team just saying

My grandmother used to tell me that," IF ", is for children. But hey, IF, the mantle fits, wear it....

 

[Aenadin]

like i said before if toronto pulls the trigger... its not our fault if they didnt do their homework on ron and JO's background. im pretty sure if this trade goes through.. there will be a first round pick going to our favor to compensate the talent lost

 

[Gary]

like i said before if toronto pulls the trigger... its not our fault if they didnt do their homework on ron and JO's background. im pretty sure if this trade goes through.. there will be a first round pick going to our favor to compensate the talent lost

You are forgetting that "God" told Salmons not to play in Toronto so if he has a clause in his contract where he could cancel a trade then it would never happen. Why would the Kings to that to Salmons anyway?

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

You are forgetting that "God" told Salmons not to play in Toronto so if he has a clause in his contract where he could cancel a trade then it would never happen. Why would the Kings to [sic] that to Salmons anyway?

Who knows? Why would the Kings give Salmons a trade clause?

Besides which, I look at it like this: they traded Chris Webber. They traded Peja Stojakovic. They traded Mike Bibby. Why the **** would they hesitate to trade John F. Salmons, to whomever, for whatever?

 

[Aenadin]

yeah the pretty much traded an entire line up just to stay competitive and that didnt work.

well if if we are going to rebuild might as well start with guys 26 and under i was clinging on to the idea of What IFs break out years.. it seems that current players had their break out years on their third season (martin, Ellis,Howard) and stuff and his style doesnt actually match raptors... ours maybe and maybe rick adelmans too but not the raps..

 

[Aenadin]

You are forgetting that "God" told Salmons not to play in Toronto so if he has a clause in his contract where he could cancel a trade then it would never happen. Why would the Kings to that to Salmons anyway?

lol apparently salmons didnt hear of the word "free will" hehe id like to stay and discuss that topic but that certainly is not kings basketball