KingsFanSince85
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I honestly wouldn't want to trade any one of those three pieces for Russell, let alone all of them.
^^ This x1000.
I honestly wouldn't want to trade any one of those three pieces for Russell, let alone all of them.
Does anyone think the spurs would consider dealing Keldon Johnson and 8th for 4th and holmes? The move up and have a shot at Ivey or Banchero and we get a solid 3 allowing barnes to play 4,and we draft Mathurin at 8?
I honestly wouldn't want to trade any one of those three pieces for Russell, let alone all of them.
holy mother of god, this is the worst trade idea yet
If Russell is that valuable, maybe they should keep him.
One thing is for certain, trying to predict what OKC do is unpredictable in itself.I just get the feeling Ivey is higher on OKC's draft board than Smith Jr.
The fact that Presti dangled SGA as trade bait last year makes me think he's not committed to building around him. If so, Ivey and Giddey are an interesting match and you have a war chest of future picks and whatever you can get for SGA to build around them.
One thing is for certain, trying to predict what OKC do is unpredictable in itself.
I can definitely see them liking Ivey but could also see them liking Banchero as well.
I doubt they even get a chance to consider Smith.
Banchero for us would be interesting. Not a great fit next to Sabonis and in some ways they duplicate each other. You still take him and work it out later. Still can’t see him slipping past Houston as he just makes so much sense for them
Sacramento it is then
1…2…3… Chet rocks!“We want Chet! We want Chet! We want Chet!”
Hahaha!Sacramento it is then
Hahaha!
Probably the last place he would want to go to.
Arguably, he would be the best fir for us both now and in the long term. Brings some much needed elite shot blocking. Can guard on the perimeter. Has a nice offensive versatility that can stretch the floor. Has some good passing ability. That body is a worry as it will take a long time to build it up and he has a skinny frame that will never make him a physical beast. Extremely thin but you can still be strong and skinny.
I would love to get Chet but get the feeling his heart would sink if he ended up in Sacramento
Keegan Murray would fit us like a glove AND he may very well be BPA after Holmgren, Banchero and Smith
I'm going to be so damn annoyed when Murray is the next great 6'8 forward competing deep in the playoffs while we're convincing ourselves that Ivey will finally defend in year 4.
I don't hate Ivey at all as a prospect. He's a clear top 5-6. But positional value on Murray can't be understated in a weaker overall talent class and I just think the whole "He's low-ceiling" is pure nonsense. I feel like everyone is falling into the trap of just because he DOES fit our team like a glove, that it automatically discards him from being BPA.
I'm going to be so damn annoyed when Murray is the next great 6'8 forward competing deep in the playoffs while we're convincing ourselves that Ivey will finally defend in year 4.
I don't hate Ivey at all as a prospect. He's a clear top 5-6. But positional value on Murray can't be understated in a weaker overall talent class and I just think the whole "He's low-ceiling" is pure nonsense. I feel like everyone is falling into the trap of just because he DOES fit our team like a glove, that it automatically discards him from being BPA.
I'm going to be so damn annoyed when Murray is the next great 6'8 forward competing deep in the playoffs while we're convincing ourselves that Ivey will finally defend in year 4.
I don't hate Ivey at all as a prospect. He's a clear top 5-6. But positional value on Murray can't be understated in a weaker overall talent class and I just think the whole "He's low-ceiling" is pure nonsense. I feel like everyone is falling into the trap of just because he DOES fit our team like a glove, that it automatically discards him from being BPA.
Yeah I feel we have had the Ivey experience in Fox. Sure they're not exactly the same, Ivey can play off ball a little, maybe his shot will be a little better, he's hasn't been paid yet etc. But different direction for me please.
Draft Ivey, trade him down for Murray plus goodies!!
I'm actually pretty cool with a lot of scenarios this year. Peace of mind that comes with not having Vlade on the clock this June.
I'm going to be so damn annoyed when Murray is the next great 6'8 forward competing deep in the playoffs while we're convincing ourselves that Ivey will finally defend in year 4.
I don't hate Ivey at all as a prospect. He's a clear top 5-6. But positional value on Murray can't be understated in a weaker overall talent class and I just think the whole "He's low-ceiling" is pure nonsense. I feel like everyone is falling into the trap of just because he DOES fit our team like a glove, that it automatically discards him from being BPA.
Yea, trade down to 5 or 6 and get an additional asset would be perfect. But if that doesn't happen, my guess is we end up taking "BPA" and going Ivey.
Depends on which side of the tweener debate he falls on. If he's a PF and can't consistently switch then playing off your man as a help defender isn't nearly as effective in the NBA as it is in college.
Yea, trade down to 5 or 6 and get an additional asset would be perfect. But if that doesn't happen, my guess is we end up taking "BPA" and going Ivey.
What did you see that says he won't be able to switch on defense? I thought that was one of his better qualities as a defender (along with the weak-side rim protector).
I don't see a lock-down perimeter defender in the cards for him and he'd probably fail as a defender if the expectation was to put him on 3's full-time, but I absolutely think he's a super versatile defender at the 4 with a lot different options (Small-ball 5, switch the PnR and not get played off the floor, etc, weakside rim-protection).
This is the problem though, what is that asset? Neither Detroit nor Indy would trade future picks as they either start or continue their rebuild. The pistons with something around Grant would be interesting but Barnes/Grant/Murray is kind of duplicative so I would think that would likely involve someone like Griffin/Sharpe, not Murray.
Can never have enough 3/4 flex wings! And in that scenario, Grant/Barnes would both be heading to UFA, so a good chance you wouldn't retain both. And if we liked Grant, we'd have a leg up on keeping him with acquiring his bird rights rather than just trying to sign in UFA.
Also, the tag just depends how much they value Ivey. Something like a top 10 protected FRP to move up a few spots seems like fair value. The ATL-Dallas swap sent a precedent with the 3-5 for 5 swap and the Mavs sent a top 5 protected FRP the following 2 season, top 3 in the 2 seasons after and unprotected after that (Conveyed in 2019 with Hunter at 10).
As silly as it is I like immediately flipping Grant (if Portland is interested for 7) if there was a 4 for 5 with Grant out there.This is the problem though, what is that asset? Neither Detroit nor Indy would trade future picks as they either start or continue their rebuild. The pistons with something around Grant would be interesting but Barnes/Grant/Murray is kind of duplicative so I would think that would likely involve someone like Griffin/Sharpe, not Murray.