Kings Offer Contract to George Karl

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The flaw is also we are talking about Denver the mile high city. They have mostly been a running team due to the perceived or real advantage that teams can't keep up in their air.

Of course it's real. And it's very significant.

It takes about ten days for the body to produce enough red blood cells to carry more oxygen to make up for the lack of oxygen in the atmosphere at 5000 feet. RBC's live for three months. So, if you live there, even if you go on a road trip, you still have a cardiovascular advantage on the road. And when you go back home after a ten day trip, you haven't lost much of your advantage at all. There's a reason elite endurance athletes train at elevation, and Boulder is a popular spot for that (I lived there for ten years). My chiropractor treated several elite Ethiopian marathoners.
 
I'm hearing a lot of chitter chatter from reliable sources in regards to Demarcus Cousins.

It appears that his agents are really in his head. This deal has not been finalized at all. Would not be surprised to hear about the deal falling through tomorrow.
 
I'm hearing a lot of chitter chatter from reliable sources in regards to Demarcus Cousins.

It appears that his agents are really in his head. This deal has not been finalized at all. Would not be surprised to hear about the deal falling through tomorrow.

Ok... so YOU have reliable inside sources with vital info, but career journalists do not?

I mean I'm not saying that's not possible, but that's quite a claim to come on here and post that. Is there any way you can help us believe you without compromising your sources? How bout some backstory...
 
I'm hearing a lot of chitter chatter from reliable sources in regards to Demarcus Cousins.

It appears that his agents are really in his head. This deal has not been finalized at all. Would not be surprised to hear about the deal falling through tomorrow.

With all due respect to your "sources", the sources of most people in the know seem to be pointing the other direction.
 
I'm hearing a lot of chitter chatter from reliable sources in regards to Demarcus Cousins.

It appears that his agents are really in his head. This deal has not been finalized at all. Would not be surprised to hear about the deal falling through tomorrow.

Didn't his agents already come out and say the opposite of that?
 
At first I thought DMC as player-coach was beyond wildly speculative. Now DMC to replace PDA seems the more bizarre outcome. It's late, I'm tired. None of this is real - I'm in a dream trance...zzzzzz
 
"I hope others see the severe incompetence and contradictions in what apparently might have transpired."

Ty is our coach for the rest of the season per the gerbil in that PR stunt of a controlled interview. Such utter bs. Can't believe all the people that are backing these fools. Amateurs that want to change the rules.
I don't know man.

To me, it is more of incompetent for the FO not to replace Ty Corbin when it has become clear he is not the person for this job. But it was nice for them to have given Ty Corbin the chance and for coming out (at least saying they believe Corbin will do a good job) when he started. At least, it was politically correct at all angles.
 
I'm hearing a lot of chitter chatter from reliable sources in regards to Demarcus Cousins.

It appears that his agents are really in his head. This deal has not been finalized at all. Would not be surprised to hear about the deal falling through tomorrow.
What, pray tell, are you talking about?
 
Ok... so YOU have reliable inside sources with vital info, but career journalists do not?

I mean I'm not saying that's not possible, but that's quite a claim to come on here and post that. Is there any way you can help us believe you without compromising your sources? How bout some backstory...

I spent time last year as an account executive in the ticket sales division. Let's just say I made a couple friends within the organization. I'm not saying I hang out with the owners or anything, I just know people that are around these guys very often.
 
I spent time last year as an account executive in the ticket sales division. Let's just say I made a couple friends within the organization. I'm not saying I hang out with the owners or anything, I just know people that are around these guys very often.

Around.... who? Exactly.
 
Around.... who? Exactly.

Dean Oliver, Nicholas Reeves, Most of them within the analytics department. I even have a friend in marketing who literally has text convo's with Vivek on a daily basis. Ownership runs the organization through a glass wall, let me tell you.
 
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Dean Oliver, Nicholas Reeves, Most of them within the analytics department. Ownership runs the organization through a glass wall, let me tell you.

If you were any more cryptic, you should work for the CIA. Nobody knows the names you just dropped, and when I asked Who? I meant you know guys that are around who? The guys you know are around Cousins? PDA? Vivek?

And if it's a glass wall, then you're contradicting yourself. Because glass wall means that NOBODY is around the decision makers, people who have info, etc.

It sounds like you just like to sound important.
 
If you were any more cryptic, you should work for the CIA. Nobody knows the names you just dropped, and when I asked Who? I meant you know guys that are around who? The guys you know are around Cousins? PDA? Vivek?

And if it's a glass wall, then you're contradicting yourself. Because glass wall means that NOBODY is around the decision makers, people who have info, etc.

It sounds like you just like to sound important.

Dude, chill out.

You don't know who Dean Oliver is. Director of player personnel and analytics.

Anyways, by glass wall I mean that the organization is very transparent. Kind of like how we see just about everything leak in social media.
 
These people love to put a spin on everything and put drama on anything just to create some controversies. Worse than some of the casual fans in this board.

They should know that it was them who made Cousins asked "Why am I made out to be the crazy guy", because they are the ones putting too many unnecessary drama on things.

Cousins agent and FO talked about the hiring of Karl, then media make it appear like it is a big deal or there is a big problem - as if those kind of talks are unusual in the NBA.
 
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There's no doubt in my mind about Cousins. Do I think we'll hire Karl? Yes. I'd be willing to bet on it.
 
Dude, chill out.

You don't know who Dean Oliver is. Director of player personnel and analytics.

Anyways, by glass wall I mean that the organization is very transparent. Kind of like how we see just about everything leak in social media.

No. I don't know who Dean Oliver is. Sue me.

And right, everything leak in social media. Except what you're bringing us, which is contrasting basically every social media outlet on the issue. I'm just saying. We need verification if you expect us to believe you.
 
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I'm hearing a lot of chitter chatter from reliable sources in regards to Demarcus Cousins.

It appears that his agents are really in his head. This deal has not been finalized at all. Would not be surprised to hear about the deal falling through tomorrow.
What possible logic is there in Cousins not wanting Karl?

I am sick of hearing this crap thrown out that doesn't have any connection to reality or common sense.

Give us SOME REASONABLE motivations why Cousins would be against Karl coaching the Kings (especially considering he and the whole team have been actively protesting Corbin as coach for 8 weeks).
 
I don't know man.

To me, it is more of incompetent for the FO not to replace Ty Corbin when it has become clear he is not the person for this job. But it was nice for them to have given Ty Corbin the chance and for coming out (at least saying they believe Corbin will do a good job) when he started. At least, it was politically correct at all angles.

"The agents for DeMarcus Cousins - Dan Fegan and Jarinn Akana - have no issues with Karl taking over as head coach and only wanted clarification on the franchise's repeated changing of direction in its coaching search plans this season, sources said. The Kings had initially planned to let Corbin coach the rest of the season, and then conduct a full search of candidates in April.

Fegan and Akana were surprised over the timing of another coaching change, especially after they had been assured at the time of Malone's departure the franchise would wait until the offseason to conduct a full search of candidates, sources said."

buffoons. i wouldn't rip them if hey had a plan and stuck to their guns but damn everybody is confused; the fans, media & team. f****** idiots.

is this is how the front office makes their decisions?

 
The Glove is still the Glove (i.e. a crazy person)


I just wanted to reply to this because the video is funny and important. No matter what you think of Payton you cannot deny he has been around the block in the NBA. His quip on "Agents not being there when you are out of the NBA" is right on.

KB
 
Dean Oliver, Nicholas Reeves, Most of them within the analytics department. I even have a friend in marketing who literally has text convo's with Vivek on a daily basis. Ownership runs the organization through a glass wall, let me tell you.
If these sources are legit, then you did them dirty. You don't name your sources and put them in jeopardy. Either they come thru and show their accuracy or they don't.
 
You're right and I think PDA might be displeased at some point. Excuse my posting of Karl articles but I'm sifting through some material on him right now and this applies to the conversation.

He’s pigeonholed now as someone whose offensive philosophy amounts to “outrun an opponent until they can’t breathe,” but that’s not really accurate. Karl had very little history as a proprietor of a fast-paced offense until arriving in Denver, where he correctly concluded a speed game would work best with young, athletic rosters playing in mile-high air. We remember Karl’s Seattle teams as helter-skelter transition machines, but in only two of Karl’s seven seasons there did the Sonics rank above the league average in possessions per game — i.e., pace. Those Seattle teams pioneered an aggressive style of trapping, chaotic defense that was ahead of its time, with zone-ish principles and heavy switching that made it difficult for offenses accustomed to dictating the terms of engagement. The Sonics ran opportunistically off turnovers their defense created, but with the exception of those two fast-paced seasons, they were not a Denver-style “run at all costs” bunch.

And Karl’s Milwaukee teams were mostly slowpokes, and yet still managed to rank in the top 10 in points per possession in each of his five seasons there.

Point is: Karl, on offense, is adaptable. Just because the Nuggets ran like all hell does not mean Karl would be a bad bit for snails like the Nets and Grizzlies. And while Karl’s Denver offenses looked almost simplistic, they gradually gained the excited admiration of the NBA’s more analytics-oriented front-office folks. Karl understood that his offense generated the most efficient shots available — shots at the rim, and 3-pointers — and on an even deeper level, he was early in understanding that NBA defenses were evolving in ways that made scoring in the half-court a more difficult job. He was also ahead of the curve in getting that post-up plays, while appealing in a traditional way, are a very low-efficiency strategy without really good post-up players to run them.

I'm not at all convinced we'll see something like we saw in Den under him, not with Cuz here. He's a smart guy, a creative guy and I don't see him taking the rock out of Cuz's hands. That's foolish. You're not going to get an efficient offense and maximize Cuz by having him jacking up jumpers non-stop like we've seen under Corbin. And to maximize spacing, which Karl is very good at would require getting Cuz in the post and spacing off him. What I expect is Cuz to be the focus of our offense much as Webber was under Rick, with better spacing and movement off Cuz than we've seen.

I fully expect some roster movement this summer and the acquisition of some 3&D guys to space off Cuz. The corner 3 will be important. I'd also hope, and he's valued them before, that he'd want a defensive presence next to Cuz, something like a Kenyon Martin or even going back to Irvin Johnson. Actually, Karl has almost always had a pretty good defensive big and a number of times multiple, guys who'll do the dirty work. My guess is Oct 1st, Ben is still here and DC isn't. DC doesn't strike me as his type of starting PG. With Karl I could see us going hard after Dragic.

I'm not sure about Collison. He's capable of pushing the pace, and also of spotting up for those corner 3s you mention. When our offense was running smoothly this season, the DMC-to-Collison-for-3 was working well. Maybe Karl works with that more.
 
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