Kings' off-season top-ten to-do list

[Mozart]

10)Fire Grant Napear--I don't think that I need a reason and I blame him for the bad season because of his fugly red hair.


9)Dump KT--He's ugly. 'Nuff said.


8)Trade Ron-Ron-- Sac's dogs need to feel safer with Ron's off-court troubles and the Menu foods recall.


7)Trade SAR--He's break'n down with each game--it's time to off him to some young team where he can warm the bench and be a senior player to the youngsters. He needs to lay off the molasses kool-aid that causes him to play like he's stuck in molasses.


6)Sign "Dunk-of-the-season" Price and "Dunks only" Williams--they have slam-dunk potential, sort of.


5)Sign Kevin long-term--He's a winner with a truly soft touch for shots.


4)Let GP be GP and spend the money on some TALENT, Malooooooooofs!--We fans work hard to spend our hard-earned money to support YOUR team that YOU own, so why don't YOU spend YOUR easy-earned money to support YOUR team?


3)Trade Bibby--I never thought that I'd feel this way towards Mike, but, this marriage between him and the Kings has run out of juice, as it happens in relationships, so ship the guy out with his huge contract; but thanks for the great memories, Mike. You've been great in many other previous seasons.


2)Trade Miller--Miller's beer has gone flat and Miller thinks that he can do the Olympics next year inbetween the grueling NBA seasons at the twilight of his career? Huh? Trade the guy. Thanks for all the "Miller Time" memories, though, Brad. Brad needs serious time-off this season, so he should check into a Cryogenic hotel and hibernate for six months until next season...and go somewhere else.


1)Fire, oh please fire MUSS!--Just look at his face...does he look like a genius to you? Case closed. Fire the guy already.

 

[startingtohurt]

i agree with all your points BUT...

1a. Get rid of those fugly gold razzle dazzle jerseys (i keep waiting for ron ron to bust out his "jazz hands" after hitting a shot)

1b. Bring back the away blacks!!! (looking like dino from the flinstones doesnt help any, lets go with what works)

 

[VF21]

i agree with all your points BUT...

1a. Get rid of those fugly gold razzle dazzle jerseys (i keep waiting for ron ron to bust out his "jazz hands" after hitting a shot)

1b. Bring back the away blacks!!! (looking like dino from the flinstones doesnt help any, lets go with what works)

1a. The gold lamé was supposed to be used three years. We still have one year to go unless they can somehow convince the league to allow a change before then... There are contractual obligations.

1b. Not gonna happen. There were rumors they might bring back the checkerboard unis but the away blacks just are NOT going to be making a return in the foreseeable future. We actually had a thread on this a short time ago and I exchanged some emails with the Kings that I posted.

 

[hrdboild]

10) He grates on my nerves too, but he doesn't really matter to this team from a basketball standpoint, other than maybe subtracting a measure of class from our local broadcasts and occasionally angering players who might not know better than to just ignore him. Pretty much irrelevant.

9) Easier said than done, but probably a smart move if we can manage it. The rebounding is nice, and the willingness to bang on defense, but when it comes with turnovers, poor shooting, long periods of passiveness, and an inability to adequately guard his position -- thathe results are more negative than positive most nights. And that contract is huge. Plus he's blocking young players. Getting him off the team should be a priority, I agree with this one.

8) I wouldn't blame anyone for feeling like Ron has worn out his welcome. My feeling is that the disruptive 'freelancing' on offense could be minimized with a better coach (for example one which runs plays) and his overall skill level makes him a potential cornerstone. His desire to win is obvious and his willingness to hustle was infectious last season (and perhaps could be again with the right personnel). Cutting our losses and rebuilding without the huge instability of depending on Ron Artest is probably the safest move, but Ron is such a significant player from a pure basketball standpoint, I'd still want him around at least for another year to see if keeping him around longterm could still work out.

7) SAR, unlike Kenny Thomas, is a reasonable bargain for his skill level so the monetary incentive to move him is minimal. Unfortunately, he seems to have underachieved all year. I think this has at least as much (if not more) to do with his style of play not fitting what the team is trying to do than his skills diminishing drastically. If this becomes a low-posession half-court grind it out offense he could actually be a useful part of the rotation provided he's paired with a frontcourt mate who can compensate for his defensive inefficincies (ie not an undersized forward or unathletic center). We might be better off in the long run just moving him to a team who can utilize him better and is willing to pay for the opportunity. I'd shop him and see what's available and I'd certainly be willing to package him to make another deal work, but it's not the end of the world if he's back next year or a priority to make sure he's gone in my opinion.

6) Bring Price back only if he's going to get regular rotation minutes at PG. I think it might be time to end the "SG/SF" primary ballhandler experiment and just settle on a traditional point guard for a change. That strategy doesn't really play to Ronnie's strengths, but he's a serviceable backup PG right now with the potential to be something more -- but only if he gets regular playing time from here on out. If there's no rotation spot for him, I'd cut him loose for his own sake. Well, or we could wake up and start using our D-League affiliate like the rest of the league to develop players. Wow, there's a crazy idea.

Justin Williams -- I've been pushing for this guy from day one cause it just makes so much sense. He's a perfect fit for us. A specialist who specializes at the very skills we are most deficient in. But he's not a center. Don't even list him as a PF-C to give "creative" coaches any ideas. Justin's a straightup PF and should be utilized as such. I wouldn't mind seeing him as our starting PF next year with SAR coming off the bench (and KT hopefully gone). That depends on who we're drafting of course. Long term I think he's a valuable first bigman off the bench guy but we might as well give him a shot at starting minutes now while we don't have any significantly better options to accelerate his development and see if maybe he could be more. I'd sign him to a 2 or 3 year extension tomorrow (today if possible) and clear out some roster space so he can be worked into the rotation in a significant way (not garbage time).

5) Agreed here. Even if we decide to trade probably our most valuable commodity for a big man or something (which is worth at least considering, as much as I love rooting for Kevin on the Kings) having him signed long-term at a reasonable price only makes him more desireable. He's money in the bank right now. A young, cheap, rising star with more potential to come. He's got to be a key part of our plans no matter what. (Good for him)

4) I have to disagree here, not that spending money is a bad thing, but with the idea that it is always a good thing. You don't want to just keep piling on Mid-Level contracts every year and kill your salary flexibility without acquiring the impact players needed to win a championship. Look at Minnesota's decade worth of irrelevance for proof of what can happen with that methodology. Spend the money when you need to, put be smart about it. Like San Antonio. Lock up the young players to long-term deals, splurge if necessary to bring in and keep a superstar, and try to avoid long term deals for bit players who are more than likely going to outstay their welcome (John Salmons potentially?) We're mostly in pretty good shape financially with the exception of the Kenny Thomas deal. We'd probably be looking better without the Salmons and Shareef mid-level deals tacked on, but that's more hindsight than anything else. Spending money becomes more important once you've got the foundation for a chapionship run established and one or two key players could push you over the top. We're a long ways from that point now.

3) I agree here as well, but it isn't entirely because Mike has worn out his welcome. I doubt he'll repeat this atrocious shooting performance next year. He's got too consistent of a track record to drop off that fast permanently. But I'm wondering, with the dismissal of Rick Adelman in particular and the supposed shift toward a more defense-first mentality, whether Bibby's playing style is no longer appropriate for this team. If we can somehow obtain a young PG who's both a capable playmaker and a top notch defender at that position (Darren Collison? Mike Conley Jr? Rajon Rondo?) we might be better off trading Bibby. I have a theory about PGs who are asked to carry their teams like Bibby was last year -- they have a lot of difficulty readjusting to a complimentary role. Especially when they are now the longest tenured player on their team. We don't need Bibby to be the man anymore, we just need him to play smart, control the offense, take good shots when he gets them, and do an adequate job of containing his man on defense. But for all Bibby's talent and late-game heroics, he might no longer be capable/willing to play that role. Which is why I think the time has come to try someone else at PG. Nothing against Bibby, he'll always be a King. But the franchise needs a new direction and that almost always starts with your PG.

2) I'm still on the fence with this one. Miller has shown flashes of effectiveness and the lingering uncertainty around his various injuries this year makes me wonder if he's ever been healthy enough out there this season to give it his full effort. Could he come back healthier next year? I wonder if playing over the summer for coach D'Antoni and his three point heavy offense has ruined Miller for good. I watched some of those Team USA games over the summer and kept asking myself what Miller was doing spending the whole game out at the three point line jacking threes. But he hit them with enough regularity to convince people he was a three point shooter -- even though that international line is a couple feet shorter than the NBA three. Hopefully "Brad Miller the three point shooter" was a mistake that won't be re-enacted next year. Keep him in the high post where he's most effective. I think there's a balance here between trade value and potential contribution to the team which has not yet tipped in favor of trading him yet (assuming a fair amount of his decline this year can be attributed to correctable health problems) -- so I would lean towards keeping him around to play out his contract unless something really intriguing comes along where we can trade him for a developing young frontcourt player with star potential. Not very likely. We can't afford to trade big for small with our already microscopic front line.

1) Agreed. This is not the type of situation that warrants a second opportunity. We went from playoffs to quite possibility bottom 5 of the league in one season with most of the same personnel. Add to that obviously unhappy players, confused or non-existent offense, inconsistent player rotations at every point of the season, apparent miscommunication with the players the GM and the owners -- well, it's hard to imagine a coach having a more negative impact on a team. Just letting the players coach themselves might be good for another 10 wins. I do not want to see Musselman back next season -- and I think that's probably the most important change to make over the summer. Even more important to the success of this team next year than who we draft in June. If Musselman somehow gets us Greg Oden, he may inadvertantly resurrect this franchise -- but I still want him gone.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

1a. The gold lamé was supposed to be used three years. We still have one year to go unless they can somehow convince the league to allow a change before then... There are contractual obligations.

1b. Not gonna happen. There were rumors they might bring back the checkerboard unis but the away blacks just are NOT going to be making a return in the foreseeable future. We actually had a thread on this a short time ago and I exchanged some emails with the Kings that I posted.

I think alot of those are very unrealistic, unfortunately. #10 wont happen, Grant just signed a new contract the beginning of this season. I dont think anyone really wants to take a shot at #8, and thats fine with me, I actually am in the minority that wants to keep him. I think that there will be at least SOME interest in #3 with Bibby, from other teams...and as much as I'd love to keep Ron and Mike, I think that Mike will be the only thing that's going to get you anything good back in the way of a trade, granted that GP actually pulls off a good trade and not one like his last few...i.e.: no more movable parts, please! You cant accomplish #2, just because of his contract size. As far as #1, hey, DO IT NOW!!

 

[diggining]

Win the draft lottery.

 

[piksi]

Win the draft lottery.

since when do we win anything or get lucky ?

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

since when do we win anything or get lucky ?

1989...and THAT sure helped us out.

 

[piksi]

1989...and THAT sure helped us out.

hence my question

 

[Merdiesel]

1a. The gold lamé was supposed to be used three years. We still have one year to go unless they can somehow convince the league to allow a change before then... There are contractual obligations.

1b. Not gonna happen. There were rumors they might bring back the checkerboard unis but the away blacks just are NOT going to be making a return in the foreseeable future. We actually had a thread on this a short time ago and I exchanged some emails with the Kings that I posted.

Are you serious?!
Man, I would kill to get my hands on a checkerboard Martin jersey.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

hence my question

I guess we'll have to see how 'lucky' we get come draft day...who knows...

 

[venom_7]

My Top Ten

The Kings have these points to address:


10. Ship Bibby and KT As much as I love the guy, Bibby needs a change of scenery and this would be a case where it would be good for both teams. I wanted to see him go to Cleveland because that would be a good situation for him, even though he's never really succeeded as a second option to a wing player. The Kings need to blow this up, rebuild, get a young PG to run the show. If Bibby does end up going to Cleveland, the Kings would be getting a package with Gooden in return, who is better at being KT than KT is, therefore making him redundant. KT needs to be shipped because his attitude is not needed on a team with one high maintenance character, and because he really is useless when not rebounding. I say ship him and another piece to Milwaukee for Mo Williams, who would be the perfect guard to run the show. High assists, not a shoot first player.

9. Shop Brad Miller Miller could still be a top NBA center if he really tried and worked on it, but his natural position is a forward. The past few games his hustle has come back, but he needs to get on the boards. Its not a necessity that we trade him, but put him on the hook and see who bites. Teams that would want him? New Jersey. Houston maybe. Memphis. If we can ship him out for a decent bench scorer and a 1st round pick then go for it. Just don't give him away.

8. Address NEEDS in the draft The Kings will have a top 10 pick in one of the deepest drafts in a while. The Kings probably wont win the lottery, so they will have to look at players like Hibbert, Noah, Horford and see where they want to go. The teams biggest need is a defensive, rebounding big man who won't clog the offense. (Sorry Justin) I would really like to see Hibbert in a Kings uni next season, and maybe if we can get a Taurean Green or Tiago Splitter in the 2nd round then we could see some improvement.

7. If Bibby is traded, get a young, talented PG If the Kings do ship Bibby, they need a replacement. Douby will not do, and Price is a scorer. I suggested Maurice Williams earlier, maybe Jameer Nelson, Marcus Banks, Randy Foye, Jarret Jack, Chris Duhon, Kyle Lowry, Nate Robinson. Any of these guys I would think could run the show. None are a championship PG by any means, but the same could be said for a young JWill.

6. Sign K$ KevMart needs an extension NOW. This guy is talented and soaks up other players talents like a sponge. I'd like to see him get a little bigger, but not for the expense of speed. He isn't the defensive player of the year and he doesn't break down well enough on closeouts, bit with proper coaching that could be fixed. Like I said, he just soaks up knowledge. He watches Rip Hamilton on tape, practices Rip, and you can see a lil bit of Rip in him. He watches Wade on tape, practices, and you wonder how his pump fake can draw so many fouls. Now Kevin, just sit in front of a telly and watch Reggie Miller tapes.

5. Artest High maintenance, sure, but nobody really wants him at this point. To his credit, he never stops trying on the floor, and theres nothing you could want more of in a player. Hes versatile, quick and strong at the same time, and a good BASKETBALL mentor for the kids. You can see Cisco learning from him defensively. He cares for the game and has a passion that is definitely lacking in some of our other players. He wants to win no matter what, and if he stays like that he is worth keeping. His off court issues are not to be excused and they need to be taken care of. He needs to shut up and not talk to the press. I dont consider his dog thing that big of an issue, i'm pretty sure the dog-sitter caught a lot of hell from Artest. The domestic violence can not be excused, and it is a horrible example for little kids who look up to him. He has already apologized and hopefully no more will come from him.

4. The Bench The only players I really want to see on our bench next year are Cisco, Salmons, Price, Williams, and Williamson. I don't think Douby will be much, and SAR and KT can leave. Chicago will want SAR, some team will be stupid enough to want KT.

3. Petrie and Maloofs Maloofs: Give Petrie money to work with and give him freedom to work with. let him choose the next coach. Petrie is a great GM. take off the handcuffs.
Petrie: Work your magic, get this team to be young and good.

2. Send Personal Congratulations To Bricklayer, for watching every game of this dreadful season, but still putting up grade is more entertaining and time consuming ways than ever. Often times I enjoyed the grades more than the game. To Piksi, who, even in his piksimistic outlook, still wrote a pregame for every game that was more funny than most stand-up. To VF21, who consistently keeps this as a respectable board, who is the fans insider to Kings affairs, and who has been a kingsfan for many many years. To Warhawk, Kingsgurl, 6th, and any other administrator who I might be forgetting. And To every kings fan out there who watched/went to every game they could this season, and still shows their support even when there is no hope for a postseason.

#1 Priority. New Coach Coach Musselman was not, will not, and is not capable of coaching an NBA team. This team wasn't especially talented, but last season the kings finished on a rise, leaving kings fans hopeful. They did one fishy thing in the offseason, but the team still looked good on paper. Mike Bibby, Ron Artest, Brad Miller. looks like a playoff team, untill you see Shareef Abdur Rahim . Really though, Musselhead shouldn't have been a coach, we fans gave him a chance, but we can see that this isn't a case of a good coach with a bad team. This is a bad coach with a mediocre team. So new coach please.

 

[Ryan]

The Kings have these points to address:

#1 Priority. New Coach Coach Musselman was not, will not, and is not capable of coaching an NBA team. This team wasn't especially talented, but last season the kings finished on a rise, leaving kings fans hopeful. They did one fishy thing in the offseason, but the team still looked good on paper. Mike Bibby, Ron Artest, Brad Miller. looks like a playoff team, untill you see Shareef Abdur Rahim . Really though, Musselhead shouldn't have been a coach, we fans gave him a chance, but we can see that this isn't a case of a good coach with a bad team. This is a bad coach with a mediocre team. So new coach please.

Am I the only one who thinks Musselman will not be fired? He's young, and has potential to be better than Adleman. Larry Brown had a terrible first season in NY, and that doesn't mean he's a bad coach. I bet we lock him in for another 3 years. Just watch.

 

[Troy]

I agree with all the points except to trade Ron. If the deal is there sure, just about anyone can be traded even LeBron and Kobie..well maybe.

Don't trade Ron for pennies on the $ though. He is pain and high maint. but the guy flat out is a warrior and the hardest worker on our team and probably the league. He loves B-Ball and if he only can keep his head on straight, the guy is amazing. He is also a great Defensive mentor and with this being our focus provided it still is if/when we cut Muss lose...Ron needs to be here. His mentoring of Cisco has really turned that guy into quite the defender as well.

I'm actually pretty happy with GPs decision on late 1st round pics with KMart and Cisco, it's way to early to judge Douby and the Kings wanting to turn him into a combo guard. The guy is a short SG at 6' 3", but has long arms and is fairly athletic so who knows. He will not be surpassing KMart anytime soon though I can tell you that and you can take it to the bank.

Sign Williams and Price long terms as well as KMart for sure.

I wouldn't mind Corliss being around, the guys is just a true vet and what a NBA player should be...he is just nice, does what needs to be done, and is just a great locker room/bench dude. I hope we can keep him at a lower cost for sure, not what $6.5M what he is making this year, but under $4M I'd be o.k. with.

Bibby has to be shopped probably the most of anyone on the team due to his huge contract and being totally useless when his shot isn't falling which it hasn't been. I don't know how we could spend the $ on such a dud when there is a Steve Nash that is just in another league/planet whatever and is making less as is a lot of other very good young PGs that pass and make the team better rather then chucking up bricks early during the shot clock.

K9 also needs to go, he is very well overstated his welcome. I like SAR, but he should be a backup 4/5 as almost Miller should be a backup this stage in his career, we don't need both so SAR should be shipped to the Bulls and hopefully we can get one of their rising stars, they have so many, can we just have 1 or 2??? I don't think we'd get Deng, but Ben Gordon would be awesome over here like BJ has been for us in the past and he should be our new starting PG, we are so weak there that when/if Bibby is moved Ben could step right in.

I was for moving Miller, but I don't think teams would bite on his contract and the guys is just great at passing and setting up his teammates, he really is making Mike look bad when he should be doing these things, but instead you have your 7 footer Center be the assist guy on the team....pretty pathetic, but nice too! I don't know how many times I've seen Brad set up KMart for a slam down, but I don't get tired of it.

Now we just need Williams to start next to him for his defense, shot blocking, rebounding, and energy and we should be good. I really see Williams as a PF anyways with his size and energy, much more then a Center. For a PF he is actually just right at 6' 10" too.

 

[hrdboild]

Am I the only one who thinks Musselman will not be fired? He's young, and has potential to be better than Adleman. Larry Brown had a terrible first season in NY, and that doesn't mean he's a bad coach. I bet we lock him in for another 3 years. Just watch.

It's not Musselman's record this season that is discouraging, it's how he got it. He hasn't looked like a future hall of fame coach now finding himself, he's looked like someone who's completely in over his head. I think a college head coaching job would be the best thing for his personal development right now, and the Kings need someone with a definite plan and the personality to get the players on board with it (like Adelman did when he first came in).

venom_7, the only thing I would take issue with in your post is your dismissal of Quincy Douby. I keep looking back at last years draft and wishing we'd taken one of the many talented young point guards that were still available -- Rajon Rondo, Marcus Williams, Kyle Lowry, Sergio Rodriguez (I'm not a Jordan Farmar fan) but that doesn't mean Douby won't be a quality player in his own right. He hasn't had a chance to show what he can do yet. No he's not going to be a point guard, at least not a pass first point guard -- but he can still shoot the lights out. Once he gets more comfortable in his role he could be a solid contributer.

 

[Kingster]

Am I the only one who thinks Musselman will not be fired? He's young, and has potential to be better than Adleman. Larry Brown had a terrible first season in NY, and that doesn't mean he's a bad coach. I bet we lock him in for another 3 years. Just watch.

Wow, the two of us make a crowd. No, you're not alone. For the most part I think he's got a bad rap. Sure, if he were a Pat Riley he would have come in and laid down the law to Artest (and Bibby, if necessary) early on and cleared up some of the BS that went on with Artest dominating the ball, but we've got to get real - (1) dealing with Artest would be problematic for any coach, (2) we aren't going to be getting Pat Riley or his ilk anytime soon. You don't have Muss's record, either in the CBA or at Golden State without knowing how to coach. He came in runner-up for the Coach of the Year for gawd's sake.

If we blow it up and go young, I think you could be right and I would be happy with keeping him. I think he can develop young talent. If we don't blow it up and we just rearrange the deck chairs by trading mediocre vets for mediocre vets, I'd let him go. It's a mercy firing.

PS I detest the idea of firing a coach because of egomaniacal, selfish, or demented players (pick one). I love the idea of unloading bad actors and keeping the coach because of the message it sends -
"We don't get rid of coaches because of selfish, demented players, we get rid of the the selfish, demented players." All the more reason to get rid of KT, Artest, and anybody else that management knows to be a cancer on this team. It sends the worst possible message to a prospective coach if his predecessor was fired because the players weren't "happy with their role".

 

[Mozart]

The Kings have these points to address:

2. Send Personal Congratulations To Bricklayer, To Piksi, To VF21, To Warhawk, Kingsgurl, 6th, and any other administrator who I might be forgetting. And To every kings fan out there who watched/went to every game they could this season, and still shows their support even when there is no hope for a postseason.

I couldn't agree more with this #2 assessment and I like your top-ten list so much that I'm discarding my top-ten for your top ten.

It's funny that others thought that my 10th thing on my list, firing Napear and my blaming him for this season's woes, was to be taken seriously--it was a joke, really...but that dude still gets on my nerves, as so with others, apparently.

 

[Troy]

It's not Musselman's record this season that is discouraging, it's how he got it. He hasn't looked like a future hall of fame coach now finding himself, he's looked like someone who's completely in over his head. I think a college head coaching job would be the best thing for his personal development right now, and the Kings need someone with a definite plan and the personality to get the players on board with it (like Adelman did when he first came in).

venom_7, the only thing I would take issue with in your post is your dismissal of Quincy Douby. I keep looking back at last years draft and wishing we'd taken one of the many talented young point guards that were still available -- Rajon Rondo, Marcus Williams, Kyle Lowry, Sergio Rodriguez (I'm not a Jordan Farmar fan) but that doesn't mean Douby won't be a quality player in his own right. He hasn't had a chance to show what he can do yet. No he's not going to be a point guard, at least not a pass first point guard -- but he can still shoot the lights out. Once he gets more comfortable in his role he could be a solid contributer.

I agree Muss needs to be a college head coach or NBA assistant coach where he isn't at the helm making big decisions and trying to drive a franchise, especially one as volatile as ours not only in having a dominant personality like Ron, but also with trying to get the community stand behind the team to keep them here in Sacto.

This was bad timing to dump RA on his keyster after the many years of good records and stableness he brought to us. Hiring on a young Muss, in hopefully the mold of his father was a very risky move that the Maloofs are definately losing right now. They are gamblers, but their luck is looking to have run out on not only their reluctance to open up their wallets for some talent on the team (tying GPs hands), but also with Ron acting up as many knew he would (going over GP's head), to their lobbying to dump RA (a coach who has given then 8 years of making the playoffs and also part of the best the Sac Kings have ever gotten and should have won it all all in 02')....in favor of a young unproven non NBA master of BS and Power Point, and great cook of some wicked Kool Aid!

 

[Troy]

Wow, the two of us make a crowd. No, you're not alone. For the most part I think he's got a bad rap. Sure, if he were a Pat Riley he would have come in and laid down the law to Artest (and Bibby, if necessary) early on and cleared up some of the BS that went on with Artest dominating the ball, but we've got to get real - (1) dealing with Artest would be problematic for any coach, (2) we aren't going to be getting Pat Riley or his ilk anytime soon. You don't have Muss's record, either in the CBA or at Golden State without knowing how to coach. He came in runner-up for the Coach of the Year for gawd's sake.

If we blow it up and go young, I think you could be right and I would be happy with keeping him. I think he can develop young talent. If we don't blow it up and we just rearrange the deck chairs by trading mediocre vets for mediocre vets, I'd let him go. It's a mercy firing.

PS I detest the idea of firing a coach because of egomaniacal, selfish, or demented players (pick one). I love the idea of unloading bad actors and keeping the coach because of the message it sends -
"We don't get rid of coaches because of selfish, demented players, we get rid of the the selfish, demented players." All the more reason to get rid of KT, Artest, and anybody else that management knows to be a cancer on this team. It sends the worst possible message to a prospective coach if his predecessor was fired because the players weren't "happy with their role".

I could see him being the coach of our younging, maybe this was the plan all along, to have a crappy season, get a good lotto pick and dump the vets. If we went full blown rebuild which I hope we do, but in order to do that we'd need to get rid of:

Artest
Bibby
Thomas
Miller
SAR

The rest of the team is young enough to hopefully not challenge the coach and do what they want as much as Bibby & Artest have, Thomas also with his need to start, eventhough he never should be a starting PF anywhere in the NBA, especially in the West and with the Kings who are very weak in the front court at that.

KMart, Price, Cisco, Salmons, Williams are the youngins with some NBA experience under their belts. Douby is the younging who hasn't played much and hasn't showed the shot that got him selected by GP yet.
Corliss is the player/on court general that is the NBA vet like a Sam Cassell for the Clips.

Ron could also be the general with Corliss if he could just show some submission and keep his head on straight. Then rebuild/rebuild/rebuild...not that all these youngins are keepers, but I wouldn't mind them in the mix with new youngings and hopefully some young leaders with some NBA experience that are going to be o.k. with a team that isn't going all the way and will be around to help with the rise once again. Like a young Phoenix we will have our time again, but until then we need to blow up this team and just about start from scratch!
A team that is a good example of this is the Blazers. They have cleared out some bad cancers on the team and are a nice young team with some grit and gusto, of course their rookie, Roy is a big reason for that and their young big too.

 

[Bricklayer]

Am I the only one who thinks Musselman will not be fired? He's young, and has potential to be better than Adleman.

Based upon what mind you? Cuz he's got nice hair? He's 0-3 now in his brief career, and has lost both teams he has coached in record time.

 

[venom_7]

I agree that Douby hasn't really been utilized and he hasn't gotten the time to show us what he can do, and I admit I doubted the pick of Kmart when that happened. I just think Douby is just another shooter that will fizzle out in the NBA. I think his plateau is a Bjax type player, and I am kinda stretching. We will see how his work ethic is and how he develops.

 

[Troy]

Based upon what mind you? Cuz he's got nice hair? He's 0-3 now in his brief career, and has lost both teams he has coached in record time.

I can defintely see what happened in GS and it's happened here. He has the players hating and not respecting him right off the bat. You'd think he would have learned, but I guess not! Well off to college ball for you Muss, you are all washed up...or make that high school!!!