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If we pick another combo guard I think I'll kick myself in the face, ugh.
If we pick another combo guard I think I'll kick myself in the face, ugh.
Kings like Lillard according to Hoops World
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Circa_1985_Fan
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And I get ALL my inside scoops from HoopsWorld.com. lol I doubt we pick Lillard unless there's a Tyreke trade.
Possibly. They better think he'll be an absolute superstar PG like CP3 or Westbrook if they pick him because otherwise I'll be pissed. I really hope we don't take him over MKG or Robinson, ugh.
Me, too. Their credibility is right up there with the National Enquirer and Weekly World News.
Dime Dropper
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I like Lillard and think he will be a good player, but if we take him there better be a trade in the works for a shotblocking big and/or a defensive SF. You simply can't take another guard and not move one. I think this is all smoke and mirrors, although it did look like he had a very good workout with us. Still, I'd be surprised if GP ignores the roster and takes him.
Yep. If there's any validity to this, it means they're shopping Reke or Thornton or IT. Which is intriguing to me if we are considering moving one of those guys in a deal for a Deng, Noah, Josh Smith type of player or perhaps for another high draft pick
Well, say the dangle Ed Davis with 8. Grabbing a young defensive minded big like him who can rebound and grabbing Lillard would be a pretty nice haul from this draft. Plus, we'd have one of Reke/Thornton/IT to dangle in a trade for a SF or another big.
It's not my favorite solution, but if we love Lillard, i'd much rather try and get another asset out of it
D13
Bench
True, but are they ready to give up on Davis already?
We have options for guards. OTOH, we haven't had a decent SF since Artest. I think its about time to sure up that position and develop the talent.
OR. We end up left with way too many guards - teams knowing this then lowball us because we are desperate to move one or two of em.
Section 101
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100% disagree. Right now we have 1 repeat 1 player who is a PG. That being IT. The person who will lose the minutes is Jimmer. If you run Lillard at PG, IT backing up, Evans at SG with MT backup. Either way this team needs another PG in current form unless Jimmer somehow is able to bring the ball up now.
ParniValjak
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4 guards in a rotation is too much as you are never going to have enough minutes to give to each of them. That is why you generally run with a 3 guard rotation and a 4th guard with bare minimum. IT and Lillard are both better than just playing scrap minutes.
If we draft Lillard, one of the main guys will need to be moved. Its pretty simple match. If you have have Lillard, IT, Reke and MT, neither of these guys will be happy with less than 30mpg and that is not even mentioning how their skills do no complement each other very well.
rainmaker
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Section 101
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Nope. 3 guards may get the majority of minutes, but you need at least 4 in the rotation. Injuries, foul trouble, off nights etc means you cant rely on just 3. And now with rosters increasing from 12 to 13 you have an extra slot over the past too. Most teams carry at min 5 guards on the team.
ParniValjak
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So how exactly would you spread the minutes for the 4 guys you think we would be OK with? As I said, neither of them will be happy with anything less than 30mpg
Gary
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I don't think Lillard will make a good PG.. Now this is just my opinion because most of us have not seen him play much, if at all. Other than highlights and reading the fan forums and such from what I gather he's more of a MT than an IT.
I don't know.. It's that same funny feeling I got when watching Reke at Memphis when I read about Lillard and watch his highlights. I don't think he's going to be a good PG.
I don't know.. It's that same funny feeling I got when watching Reke at Memphis when I read about Lillard and watch his highlights. I don't think he's going to be a good PG.
Section 101
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Like I said, foul trouble and other factors will determine alot of it. But whoever has it going that night would get the minutes. Most likely IT and Lillard would split the PG. Evans and MT the SG with Evans playing some at SF depending on the matchup.
kennadog
Dog On It!
Yes and we know how Geoff Petrie gives away everything ahead of time. Blabbermouth.
Mass
Starter
You can't have a 4 guards rotation with IT, Lillard, Evans and Thornton. Not enough minutes for all of them. For example:
Lillard 28
Evans 34
Thomas 20
Thornton 14
Do you think IT and Thornton would be ok with 20 and 14 minutes? Maybe IT would, maybe, but not MT. No way. A perfect guard rotation is a 3 players rotation. Then you can have a 4th guard (Salmons, Jimmer) with limited minutes. So, if we are not going to trade IT, Evens or Thornton, no Lillard please.
Lillard 28
Evans 34
Thomas 20
Thornton 14
Do you think IT and Thornton would be ok with 20 and 14 minutes? Maybe IT would, maybe, but not MT. No way. A perfect guard rotation is a 3 players rotation. Then you can have a 4th guard (Salmons, Jimmer) with limited minutes. So, if we are not going to trade IT, Evens or Thornton, no Lillard please.
Thank God you're not an nba coach. Whoever has it going will get minutes rofl!
Yo Kobe, you're shooting 5-15, come sit and I'll play Goudelock instead!
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ParniValjak
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Section 101
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Great way to build a team and consistency, isn't it?!
Sometime I can't help but shake my head as some if the things I read on here!
Guess you don't like the way Pop coaches then.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
I haven't seen him play, just saw him in the workouts. NBA scouts sure like him. Hard to know what's real on this. Before Tyreke got drafted there were several leaks that indicated the Kings were high on him. It wasn't a secret at the very end. That said, then was then and now is now.
As for whether a player is going to fit or not, I just don't care, and I don't think the Kings management cares much either. If they out there talking trades there could be a lot of player movement on this team and the "fit" that everybody talks about could easily be a moot point because of future trades. All I can say, is: If they draft a player that is at an overloaded position, pretty please with sugar on top trade the reduntant player(s) at his position before or on Draft Day. The last thing I want them to do is draft a guy at an overloaded position and then have to figure out what to do afterwards. Then their leverage goes down considerably with potential trading partners.
As for whether a player is going to fit or not, I just don't care, and I don't think the Kings management cares much either. If they out there talking trades there could be a lot of player movement on this team and the "fit" that everybody talks about could easily be a moot point because of future trades. All I can say, is: If they draft a player that is at an overloaded position, pretty please with sugar on top trade the reduntant player(s) at his position before or on Draft Day. The last thing I want them to do is draft a guy at an overloaded position and then have to figure out what to do afterwards. Then their leverage goes down considerably with potential trading partners.
Umm ... if anything Pop has one of the most strict rotations. He left Ginobili coming off the bench and continued starting Danny Green right until they were desperate to get some wins against OKC.
Look, I can agree with you that you can play around with playing time when it comes to role players. Danny Green/Gary Neal/Mills or Splitter/Bonner can get different minutes every night, but you can be damn sure that Ginobili and Parker are going to get their minutes, regardless of "who's got it going". And in our context, you're talking about Tyreke Evans (former ROY and possible franchise cornerstone), Marcus Thornton (our main FA "acquisition" last off season), Isaiah Thomas (starting PG last season, getting 30 minutes a night) and Lillard (#5 pick over one of MKG, Barnes, Robinson, Beal, Drummond) to share an inconsistent split of 96 minutes a game??? And that's before we even talk about Jimmer, our 2011 first round pick, who frankly I don't think the organisation has given up on just yet.
I disagree. Yes, drafting for need or fit is the quickest way to make a mistake in the draft. But I don't think there's any burning need to move a guy right away. You draft the most talented guy available and sort it out later. The Thunder drafted Harden while already having Sefolosha, Durant and Green on the wings. And then traded Green for Perkins to both fill a need AND clear room for Harden to get PT.
The Suns drafted Steve Nash AND traded for Jason Kidd while having (an albeit injury prone) Kevin Johnson already on the team. And Nash sat in Phoenix for two years before being traded for the pick that became Shawn Marion.
Look at the buzz around Batum who has not justified the hype that surrounds him (or PDX's unwillingness to deal him) with on court production. Drafting the better player will get you a better trade chip regardless of whether other teams think you have a log jam or not, so long as your GM is patient and competent.
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