Kings inquire about Batum - Jason Jones
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Section 101
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Hickson for Batum !! He wasn't worth Amare so its a steal for Portland for Batum.
Circa_1985_Fan
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Wonder if Petrie has ANY creativity left to bring in something we could use...like Batum?
I'd be willing to flip Thornton for him. It 1. Gives us the perfect SF for this team 2. Frees up enough money to give him a nice contract 3. Makes us a far better team with Reke going to SG and Batum taking SF 4. Frees up minutes in an extremley crowded backcourt
Thornton is no doubt talented, but he needs to be on a team where he's the main focus of the offense or the 2nd option and have the ball in his hands a majority of the game. He'll never be fully able to do that with Reke and Boogie here, and he's a waste of a talent on the bench for us. Guys like Terry/Harden/Manu a few years ago were all effective in that bench role because they're the 2nd or 3rd option on the team and can score without dominating the ball
Thornton is no doubt talented, but he needs to be on a team where he's the main focus of the offense or the 2nd option and have the ball in his hands a majority of the game. He'll never be fully able to do that with Reke and Boogie here, and he's a waste of a talent on the bench for us. Guys like Terry/Harden/Manu a few years ago were all effective in that bench role because they're the 2nd or 3rd option on the team and can score without dominating the ball
upinsmoke
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Yea that crossed my mind also in terms of flipping the NO pick to Portland on draft day for Batum but today would be nice to.
ElRey
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"He's not really what I'm looking for in a PF"
-Smart to Petrie on Batum trade.[/QUOTE
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Padrino
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i'd probably do the same, at this point. the "emergence" of isaiah thomas renders either he or thornton a bit moot. throw jimmer into the mix, and its just a few too many guards who operate at their best with the ball in their hands. and since thornton probably has the greatest value of the group, i'd be willing to move him for batum, provided batum re-signs in the offseason. the kings really do need a defensive-minded, starting-quality SF who can spot up from outside at a solid percentage. batum fits that bill just about as well as anyone in the league...
More importantly, Batum can get 15 PPG within the flow of an offensive. He doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. Plus, I don't think even Smart could **** up playing him exclusively at SF.
IT
Reke
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JT
Cuz
All of a sudden looks a ton better defensively, offensively, has an offensive hierarchy of who gets shots, and frees up more PT for Jimmer
THat NO trade is not realistic by any stretch of the imagination. No team trades a top 5 pick+ a quality big for cap space.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Actually it could work out exactly the opposite, with them then eneding to find a big punch of backcourt scoring somewhere, because Matthews and Felton just aren't getting it done alone.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well, the Clippers did it just last year with Baron.
But in this case the Hornets have a second lottery pick due to them from Minnesota, and if this rumor s ture that owuld have to be the one they were trying to use as enticement.
The Clippers had like a 1.3 % chance at winning the loterry. So it was supposed to be around a 10-11 pick+Baron (In a very weak draft mind you) for Mo. That's not even taking into account Mo Williams is a 6th man of the year candidate and is playing great basketball. Hickson simply isn't
rainmaker
Hall of Famer
Interesting. I posted a couple days ago with Crawford leaving that MT could be an ideal replacement, and they're shopping at least one of their SF's.
But a big positive to me, if the rumor is true, is that our FO obviously doesn't see Reke as a SF, and they're trying to make a move to get him back to playing guard.
But a big positive to me, if the rumor is true, is that our FO obviously doesn't see Reke as a SF, and they're trying to make a move to get him back to playing guard.
ElRey
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Huh? I thought we traded our protected first round pick to Cleveland in the Hickson deal.
The Hammer
All-Star
Must mean that you trade the rights to the pick if we don't make the playoffs.
The pick is lottery protected, meaning it only goes to Cleveland if and when we ever make the playoffs. As long as we're in the lottery, we get it.
A team would have to be confident that we're not making the playoffs to take the rights to it.
Made no sense to me either. I can only assume that Jones misunderstood Petrie. You can't deal them to anyone but Cleveland to get it back in exchange for someone or something.
Section 101
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Not true. Its top 14 protected this year, then top 13, top 12, top 10, top 10 then in 2017 becomes a 2nd round pic.
Section 101
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Ya. Bet he meant trade the pick in the off season.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
But again, is this 100% true?
The Kings have a remainder interest in those picks. Meaning Cleveland has part of our rights to the pick and we have the rest. Why could we not trade the remainder/our part of the rights?
If I had, say, the rights to a pick if it was #1 to #5, and you had rights to the same pick if it were #6 to #10, why could I not just give my rights from #1 to #5 to my friend Barney? Doesn't effect your rights.
The Hammer
All-Star
Oh ok.
Glenn
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Bingo. I also would be very careful about making any big trades today or tomorrow as the draft could solve a problem and if we truly want BPA, let us not trade for a SF as someone might screw up and let a great SF fall to us and let us not trade for a big as most likely a starter will be available where we pick. I think the trading occurs in the summer after we know our team lineup with our draft pick inserted.
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