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I was bored, i knew O is better than most people that played in the NBA, he is in the top 50, I thought it was a different topic, i was bored at work.
I'd like to ask anyone who picks Chris Webber over Oscar Robertson to explain why. I'm a really big Webber fan but there's really no comparison.
Because I quickly scanned list for Webber, without even for a moment realizing that THAT Oscar was a King once upon a time. Probably like many recent fans, I assumed that it is by now common knowledge that Webb was the best. Well...oooops.
Clearly it's Mateen Cleaves.
But seriously, the Big O was at least top 5 all time (for the entire league), and I'd personally put him at number 1. If you're going to pick an NBA player that was seemingly without fault (minus injury problems), it would be Oscar. He was the opposite of a one-trick pony. He could score, rebound, pass, defend, shoot, ect. ect. at a super-star level.
I suppose. It's a shame that our newer fans don't know the history of the franchise more.
We had a Rochestal Royals fan here and NK64 is a fan from back in the Kansas City days. They told some good stories. I don't know if the stories are still there, though, or if they were lost when the board had the catastrophic failure back in 2004.
People need to do some research about Oscar and Nate "Tiny" Archibald. And, while they're at it, they should look up the other guys whose jerseys have been retired.
If I get a bit of time, maybe I'll post some information about each of the numbers hanging in the rafters. The stories behind a couple of them will really surprise and move you.
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How in the heck can you say he's better than Wilt, Shaq, MJ, Bird, Magic, Kareem, etc? There's no way he's top 5 all time.
Dude, I hate Shaq but a lot of people call him the most dominant force ever. How does that not get a mention?
Dude Oscar's not better than Shaq. Shaq's teams won championships. Oscar never won anything and he played with some hall of famers. He's top 10 all time but I don't think you can say he's top 5, he only has 1 freaking championship and he wasn't even the best player on that team.
Yeah but big men win games, guards don't. If I'm starting a franchise I take the dominant big man 9/10 times, the only time I don't is if we're talking about Michael Jordan.
Yeah but he couldn't win anything as the best player on a team despite having 2 HOF teammates.
Wikipedia said:Robertson is universally regarded as one of the greatest players in NBA history, a triple threat who could score inside, outside and also was a stellar playmaker. His rookie scoring average of 30.5 points per game is the third highest of any rookie in NBA history, and Robertson averaged more than 30 points per game in six of his first seven seasons.[1] Only two other players in the NBA have had more 30+ point per game seasons in their career. Robertson was the first player to average more than 10 assists per game, doing so at a time when the criteria for assists were more stringent than today.[3] Furthermore, Robertson is the only guard in NBA history to ever average more than 10 rebounds per game, doing so three times. In addition to his 1964 regular season MVP award, Robertson won three All-Star Game MVPs in his career (in 1961, 1964, and 1969). He has the all-time highest scoring average in the All-Star Game for players participating in four or more games (the league standard for the record) at 20.5 points per game. He ended his career with 26,710 points (25.7 per game, eighth-best all time), 9,887 assists (9.5 per game) and 7,804 rebounds (7.5 per game).[1]
Robertson also set yardsticks in versatility. If his first five seasons are strung together, Robertson averaged a triple-double over these 400+ games, averaging an incredible 30.3 points, 10.4 rebounds and 10.6 assists.[15] For his career, Robertson had 181 triple-doubles, a record that has never been approached.[16] These numbers are even more astonishing if it is taken into account that the three-point shot did not exist when he played, which was introduced by the NBA in the 1979-80 season and benefits sharpshooting backcourt players. In 1967-68, Robertson also became the first of only two players in NBA history to lead the league in both scoring average and assists per game in the same season. The official scoring and assist titles went to other players that season, however, because the NBA based the titles on point and assist totals (not averages) prior to the 1969-70 season. Robertson did, however, win a total of six NBA assist titles during his career. For his career, Robertson shot a high .485 field goal average and led the league in free-throw percentage twice — in the 1963-64 and 1967-68 seasons.[1]