Joshyjosh31
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Just saw this what computers are they using GSW as the number one seed, Luka lead team at 36 wins, Cleveland a seventh seed espn is something else
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Just saw this what computers are they using GSW as the number one seed, Luka lead team at 36 wins, Cleveland a seventh seed espn is something else
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
I can actually kinda get the Lakers projection because that team’s defense is entirely predicated on Vando staying healthy and Marcus Smart remembering how to play basketball along with Ayton growing a spine.
Not sure where the GSW one seed talk is coming from though.
Joshyjosh31
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Luka alone is getting more than 36 wins reeves will be a 20/5 guy untill lebron returns and Ayton should be decent. There defense could be bad but they’ll have a top 7 offense with the guys they have that good enough for the playoffs let alone under 40 wins
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Are the Grizz going to win 50 games? Given their injury history and losing Bane I think that’s tough
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Pacers get 47 wins with no Hali or Turner?
They used 2k to sim this, didn't they?
Joshyjosh31
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We’re old who are we trying to outrun besides father time
Except the average league height isn't getting taller:
70 Years of Height Evolution in the NBA [4,504 players analyzed]
“You can’t teach height” - Red Auerbach We spent 2 months
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Only PGs are getting taller, every other position has been on a down trend since the early 2000s.
I see a team here running out two Cs, two PFs, and a SF. Of course they're tall! They're the tallest starting lineup in NBA history, but they're just one team and not representative of the league. Besides, it's a starting lineup gimmick. Adams played under 14 minutes a game last year. Do you think they're going to ask Kevin Durant to guard SGs 20 minutes a game?
Meanwhile, the Kings went out and drafted a 6'7" guard and a 7'2" center, and extended their 6'9" SF, so it's not clear what else they could have done heightwise. Even their new 6'4" backup PG is bigger than average for his position. (Except when he's playing PF.) There are 29 other teams out there also trying to be as tall as possible while still being talented, so it's not like we can just vacuum up all the tall guys and call it a summer.
Cap is right, outside of a few freaks of nature, we've generally seen the skilled PFs move up to center, SGs move into the SF spot, natural SFs have become "big wings" and the traditional "PF" has more or less become obsolete. A lot of guys that would have been called "tweeners" in the 90s and 00s - a detraction meaning too big or slow to defend their natural position but too small to play up - are now dominating the league as 3&D wings.
sono
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You are right, I checked some stats, clearly they are not getting taller in recent years.Except the average league height isn't getting taller:
70 Years of Height Evolution in the NBA [4,504 players analyzed]
“You can’t teach height” - Red Auerbach We spent 2 months
Only PGs are getting taller, every other position has been on a down trend since the early 2000s.
I see a team here running out two Cs, two PFs, and a SF. Of course they're tall! They're the tallest starting lineup in NBA history, but they're just one team and not representative of the league. Besides, it's a starting lineup gimmick. Adams played under 14 minutes a game last year. Do you think they're going to ask Kevin Durant to guard SGs 20 minutes a game?
Meanwhile, the Kings went out and drafted a 6'7" guard and a 7'2" center, and extended their 6'9" SF, so it's not clear what else they could have done heightwise. Even their new 6'4" backup PG is bigger than average for his position. (Except when he's playing PF.) There are 29 other teams out there also trying to be as tall as possible while still being talented, so it's not like we can just vacuum up all the tall guys and call it a summer.
The average height of the roster could be sufficient, despite that the Kings always manage to play small ball with a logjam of guards. The roster is unbalanced.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Yeah. People are getting caught up in the height rather than about how they’re going to ask Sengun to stick with wings on switches and have KD guard guards as a 40 year with a bum Achilles. Also Adams can’t switch either so I guess they’re just going to play him in drop?Except the average league height isn't getting taller:
70 Years of Height Evolution in the NBA [4,504 players analyzed]
“You can’t teach height” - Red Auerbach We spent 2 months
Only PGs are getting taller, every other position has been on a down trend since the early 2000s.
I see a team here running out two Cs, two PFs, and a SF. Of course they're tall! They're the tallest starting lineup in NBA history, but they're just one team and not representative of the league. Besides, it's a starting lineup gimmick. Adams played under 14 minutes a game last year. Do you think they're going to ask Kevin Durant to guard SGs 20 minutes a game?
Meanwhile, the Kings went out and drafted a 6'7" guard and a 7'2" center, and extended their 6'9" SF, so it's not clear what else they could have done heightwise. Even their new 6'4" backup PG is bigger than average for his position. (Except when he's playing PF.) There are 29 other teams out there also trying to be as tall as possible while still being talented, so it's not like we can just vacuum up all the tall guys and call it a summer.
Yes, this is the larger problem. Keegan being out for an extended time only makes it worse.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Mostly because with a team demanding defense the core of their rotation has almost none. Carter, Keon, Clifford, Jones/Keegan, and Maxime is actually the entirety of the Kings balance on paper in reality. Yeah, it needs a star for sure but balance is there. It's just buried by bygone name value and reputation.
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My dream scenario here is that the vets put up big enough numbers in the first half of the season to generate some significant trade interest in January and Scott Perry is forward-thinking enough to unload nearly all of them at the peak of their value (even if that peak isn't all that high) to clear out room for the roster within the roster to take center stage. The 2022-2023 season did happen after all so there is some precedent that we can have nice things, at least once in awhile...
More than likely, I think we'll see the firesale at the deadline, just because the team is probably going to be unintentionally bad. Keegan missing a month+ is truly an utter disaster for a team projected as a bottom 10 defense with him and just have no chance of stopping anything without him. And we're already missing Domas for opening night. How long is he out for? Hamstrings can be real tricky and if you rush him back it could turn into something that lingers the whole season.
If we get into mid-December with a 4-16 type of record, the FO will just be forced to make those moves.
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nba/sacramento-kings/domantas-sabonis-injury-stanford/1882791/
So this timeline is saying at least 2 games missed and most mild hamstring strains take a couple weeks. So that's 6+ games right there.
So this timeline is saying at least 2 games missed and most mild hamstring strains take a couple weeks. So that's 6+ games right there.
ockingsfan
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Maybe Christie will surprise us with Keon and Maxime or Cardwell starting?
Suns I think will start royce o'neale and Brooks at the wing, so Nique would actually make more sense from a match-up perspective. DDR on Royce is more than fine. Not that Saric ever makes "more sense", but yeah.
Also worth watching OKC playing their best guys and still closing with their small lineup, even vs this Rockets squad. Just get your good players on the floor. And I'm very confident, even without a real NBA minute, that Nique is significantly better than Saric
