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On December 29th 1999 Kings won in Seattle 113 - 104 to improve to 17-10 for the season. Kings had a lead early but Sonics came back and the game was tied sfter 3/4. At the end the "bench mob" came trough. Webber lead the Kings with 31/10/3. Martin was great replacement for JWill with 21/2/7. Corliss also had 16/7/2. Bench mob was awsome. They outscored Sonic's bench 34-19. Pedja and JB scored 14 pts each. Looking at the boxscores - Brent Barry was appearently killing us back then too,
"The coaching staff knows I've started in this league and I've been pretty productive as a starter," Martin said. "They know if Jason goes down, I can step in. I know how to play as a lead guard and how to lead a team."
Martin made 6-of-11 shots, including 3-of-5 from 3-point range. He added seven assists and helped hold Payton to 11-of-30 shooting, including 1-of-9 from behind the arc.
"I just tried to play according to what the team needed me to do," Martin said. "In the second half, they needed me to step up a little more and score a little more, so that's what I did."
A jumper by Webber gave the Kings the lead for good at 89-87 with 8:29 to play. Predrag Stojakovic, who scored 11 of his 14 points in the fourth quarter, followed with a basket just over a minute later.
"One of the reasons why I'm most proud of this win is because when you play a team with Gary Payton and they are losing four in a row, you're not supposed to win the fifth," Webber said. "Knowing the type of will they have, to come out with this win is big and shouldn't be underestimated."
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Kings have their winning streak and it really doesn't matter how we got to it. Even if it takes a gutted Denver team and the NBDL team from Philadelphia - it is still a winning streak. So Kings are 12-14 which is still kinda bad but at least Kings have been beating teams they are supposed to do. We will be fighting for the 8th PO spot. Also Kings have a real chance to get back to 0.500 because a back to back set is coming up where we play a team we own and a team that is so due for a payback.
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What happenes when we run out of "bad" opponents. What happenes when ther are no more Hawks, Sixers atc left on the schedule ? I don't want to find out these days. Too bad we aren't playing the Hornets, Rockets or the Grizzlies these days. You still have to come out and suck less than they do because if You suck big time they will drag You down and beat You with experience. So far Kings have managed to stay away from bad losses. On the related note - Knicks are in town soon.
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"From a superstar to a towell boy" is going to be a title of Chris Webber's career if he doesn't retire soon. It is a shame but it is what it is. A player and a person who did so much for the Sacramento in general is pretty much done. All that is left is the +/- 40 million $ he will make. That late spring night in Dallas didn't change just the future of the Kings but also "ended" Webber's career as we knew it. At this point - all there is left from Webber are his great hands and ego and of course the contract. If he doesn't retire he will soon enough be a towell boy or a Mo Taylor type of player. Looks like trading Webber wasn't as bad as it looked. It wasn't great but at least we found someone dumb enough to take him. As painful as it is - KT is right now much better player than Webber and Mo Taylor isn't far away. Like I said - it is a shame. That damn late spring night in Dallas. Thanks for the memories.
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Who are we trading where and who are we getting in return ? I have no clue when the trading deadline is but until then we will go trough this cycle bunch of times. Artest for Magette - who cares really ? Doesn't help us at all but doesn't relally hurt us either. Haven't we done enough pointless trades in the last 3 years or so. Going from one "quick fix" to another while losing isn't something to look forward to. Ron will not stay here past his current contract. Don't kid Yourself ! He can't be trusted mostly because he is as stable as Plutonium and he has the same effect too. Are we going to turn into "Pacers II" We took their dirty laundry, tried to wash it - didn't work - let's pass it to someone else while there are still any takers. There is no reason to believe that Ron will keep it toghether and then stay in Sacramento longer than 2 more years. None. And he will blow up way before that unless we all agree to buy his CD and wear his clothes. I would rather lose to the Lakers. [SIZE=-1]Vulpes pilum mutat, non mores.
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Lately, I am pretty unhappy about our composure, lack of discipline and unprofessional behaviour on the court. Can we really aford to give away free points due to the technical fouls. Are we that good (rethorical) ? So this is to Corliss, SAR, KT, Brad and the rest. Quit complaining, whining, and save Your breath for some transition defense and hit a layup from time to time plaase. There is nothing worse then when a player who sucked the whole game gets a technical for arguing with the refs. Just shut up and go wave with the towell or something. "Shut up and play" is a popular topic around here these days. In this case it is not even figurative.
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[/SIZE] Looking at this board lately (mostly the topics of discussions) - things sure have change. Sometimes - You look at a thread and shake Your head and try to think - why would anyone think of something like this and how. If we had a competition for the dumbest thread - it would be interesting and close race. On the other side - the more things change the more they stay the same. If You look at it from the distance - nothing really changed in terms of topics, posters, discussions, arguments. Absolutely nothing. The setting around it is different - is all. We just aren't winning anymore. When You win - even pointless discussions are much more fun. We used to argue - whether we won the game because of player XY or despite of him. We used to argue whether the win needed to be this close or a blowout. We argued whether we were passing too much or playing too fancy from time to time. We used to argue whether winning 50 + games is enough or not. We were winning and watching games and "arguing" was a big part of this great experience. We went to bad happy (speaking only about Kings universe - microscopically). We couldn't wait for another game, another win. We didn't care who we play and where. We didn't worry about a loss because we knew more wins are coming up. It changed. Now we worry about every game, some of the games aren't really fun to watch. Even worse - there were games that whatching was a compleate waste of time. Even wins aren't the same anymore. For example, tonight I watched Kings insteas of watching a great game that went to 3 overtimes between Knicks and Pistons. There is some great BB played in this league. It sucks not being part of it.
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Kings did what they were supposed to do. We beat the Sixers who are by far the worst team in the NBA. They wouldn't even win the euroleague. As ugly as the game was - it was easy win. As bad as we are capable of playing - we can't play worse than Sixers. We only had 6 turnovers tonight even though we have players that are perfectly capable of havein 6 TOs in a quarter. What we can take out odfthis game is a W and a good game by Bibby. Only regret is htat we can't play them every night.
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AWARD TIME
There is not TDM award winner tonight. This reward does require certain performance. Sixers did not have a player who earned it tonight.
LW-VC award goes to Andre Miller who was just great tonight
. He missed the shots when we needed hima and then he turned it over. Honorable mention - Chris Webber. He was at least as horrible but I just didn't have a heart to give it to him.
JHA - goes to Jason Hart himself who not only sucks as a player but also has no class either.
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Clipper are next and we own the Clippers. They are actually in worse shape than we are and there is no reason for us to give them hope. Since they are "drowning" - we need to help the - drown some more. Only thing that is predictable for this game is the fact that it is unpredictable. We should win this based on tradition and current form
. What we have going against us is the theory of big numbers or - "even a blind chicken finds a corn sometimes."
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Mike - do it again please
Ron - I am afraid - the pills aren't working well these days
Kevin - screw the flu
SAR - get well soon we miss Your technicals
Brad - good luch against the caveman
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KT - too bad he can't play Webber every night
Salmons - can't be great every night
Corliss - ok I guess
rest - mateen
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Muss - he is learning because this time he only left Ron play in the garbage time. Let's just hope that it won't cause some additional soarnesses.
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Clipps are on the paper better than they are showing it. They are beating Celtics as we speak but that doesn't mean much. Golumn might or might not play. Caveman will abuse us. Artest - Magette matchup suddenly got very interesting. Brand will be brand. Tim Thoms will probably win TDM award. Mobley will win the LW-VC award. When it is all said and done - it is hard to go against the tradition hence the winning streak continues.
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On December 29th 1999 Kings won in Seattle 113 - 104 to improve to 17-10 for the season. Kings had a lead early but Sonics came back and the game was tied sfter 3/4. At the end the "bench mob" came trough. Webber lead the Kings with 31/10/3. Martin was great replacement for JWill with 21/2/7. Corliss also had 16/7/2. Bench mob was awsome. They outscored Sonic's bench 34-19. Pedja and JB scored 14 pts each. Looking at the boxscores - Brent Barry was appearently killing us back then too,
"The coaching staff knows I've started in this league and I've been pretty productive as a starter," Martin said. "They know if Jason goes down, I can step in. I know how to play as a lead guard and how to lead a team."
Martin made 6-of-11 shots, including 3-of-5 from 3-point range. He added seven assists and helped hold Payton to 11-of-30 shooting, including 1-of-9 from behind the arc.
"I just tried to play according to what the team needed me to do," Martin said. "In the second half, they needed me to step up a little more and score a little more, so that's what I did."
A jumper by Webber gave the Kings the lead for good at 89-87 with 8:29 to play. Predrag Stojakovic, who scored 11 of his 14 points in the fourth quarter, followed with a basket just over a minute later.
"One of the reasons why I'm most proud of this win is because when you play a team with Gary Payton and they are losing four in a row, you're not supposed to win the fifth," Webber said. "Knowing the type of will they have, to come out with this win is big and shouldn't be underestimated."
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Kings have their winning streak and it really doesn't matter how we got to it. Even if it takes a gutted Denver team and the NBDL team from Philadelphia - it is still a winning streak. So Kings are 12-14 which is still kinda bad but at least Kings have been beating teams they are supposed to do. We will be fighting for the 8th PO spot. Also Kings have a real chance to get back to 0.500 because a back to back set is coming up where we play a team we own and a team that is so due for a payback.
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What happenes when we run out of "bad" opponents. What happenes when ther are no more Hawks, Sixers atc left on the schedule ? I don't want to find out these days. Too bad we aren't playing the Hornets, Rockets or the Grizzlies these days. You still have to come out and suck less than they do because if You suck big time they will drag You down and beat You with experience. So far Kings have managed to stay away from bad losses. On the related note - Knicks are in town soon.
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"From a superstar to a towell boy" is going to be a title of Chris Webber's career if he doesn't retire soon. It is a shame but it is what it is. A player and a person who did so much for the Sacramento in general is pretty much done. All that is left is the +/- 40 million $ he will make. That late spring night in Dallas didn't change just the future of the Kings but also "ended" Webber's career as we knew it. At this point - all there is left from Webber are his great hands and ego and of course the contract. If he doesn't retire he will soon enough be a towell boy or a Mo Taylor type of player. Looks like trading Webber wasn't as bad as it looked. It wasn't great but at least we found someone dumb enough to take him. As painful as it is - KT is right now much better player than Webber and Mo Taylor isn't far away. Like I said - it is a shame. That damn late spring night in Dallas. Thanks for the memories.
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Who are we trading where and who are we getting in return ? I have no clue when the trading deadline is but until then we will go trough this cycle bunch of times. Artest for Magette - who cares really ? Doesn't help us at all but doesn't relally hurt us either. Haven't we done enough pointless trades in the last 3 years or so. Going from one "quick fix" to another while losing isn't something to look forward to. Ron will not stay here past his current contract. Don't kid Yourself ! He can't be trusted mostly because he is as stable as Plutonium and he has the same effect too. Are we going to turn into "Pacers II" We took their dirty laundry, tried to wash it - didn't work - let's pass it to someone else while there are still any takers. There is no reason to believe that Ron will keep it toghether and then stay in Sacramento longer than 2 more years. None. And he will blow up way before that unless we all agree to buy his CD and wear his clothes. I would rather lose to the Lakers. [SIZE=-1]Vulpes pilum mutat, non mores.
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Lately, I am pretty unhappy about our composure, lack of discipline and unprofessional behaviour on the court. Can we really aford to give away free points due to the technical fouls. Are we that good (rethorical) ? So this is to Corliss, SAR, KT, Brad and the rest. Quit complaining, whining, and save Your breath for some transition defense and hit a layup from time to time plaase. There is nothing worse then when a player who sucked the whole game gets a technical for arguing with the refs. Just shut up and go wave with the towell or something. "Shut up and play" is a popular topic around here these days. In this case it is not even figurative.
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[/SIZE] Looking at this board lately (mostly the topics of discussions) - things sure have change. Sometimes - You look at a thread and shake Your head and try to think - why would anyone think of something like this and how. If we had a competition for the dumbest thread - it would be interesting and close race. On the other side - the more things change the more they stay the same. If You look at it from the distance - nothing really changed in terms of topics, posters, discussions, arguments. Absolutely nothing. The setting around it is different - is all. We just aren't winning anymore. When You win - even pointless discussions are much more fun. We used to argue - whether we won the game because of player XY or despite of him. We used to argue whether the win needed to be this close or a blowout. We argued whether we were passing too much or playing too fancy from time to time. We used to argue whether winning 50 + games is enough or not. We were winning and watching games and "arguing" was a big part of this great experience. We went to bad happy (speaking only about Kings universe - microscopically). We couldn't wait for another game, another win. We didn't care who we play and where. We didn't worry about a loss because we knew more wins are coming up. It changed. Now we worry about every game, some of the games aren't really fun to watch. Even worse - there were games that whatching was a compleate waste of time. Even wins aren't the same anymore. For example, tonight I watched Kings insteas of watching a great game that went to 3 overtimes between Knicks and Pistons. There is some great BB played in this league. It sucks not being part of it.
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Kings did what they were supposed to do. We beat the Sixers who are by far the worst team in the NBA. They wouldn't even win the euroleague. As ugly as the game was - it was easy win. As bad as we are capable of playing - we can't play worse than Sixers. We only had 6 turnovers tonight even though we have players that are perfectly capable of havein 6 TOs in a quarter. What we can take out odfthis game is a W and a good game by Bibby. Only regret is htat we can't play them every night.
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AWARD TIME
There is not TDM award winner tonight. This reward does require certain performance. Sixers did not have a player who earned it tonight.
LW-VC award goes to Andre Miller who was just great tonight
. He missed the shots when we needed hima and then he turned it over. Honorable mention - Chris Webber. He was at least as horrible but I just didn't have a heart to give it to him.JHA - goes to Jason Hart himself who not only sucks as a player but also has no class either.
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Clipper are next and we own the Clippers. They are actually in worse shape than we are and there is no reason for us to give them hope. Since they are "drowning" - we need to help the - drown some more. Only thing that is predictable for this game is the fact that it is unpredictable. We should win this based on tradition and current form
. What we have going against us is the theory of big numbers or - "even a blind chicken finds a corn sometimes." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike - do it again please
Ron - I am afraid - the pills aren't working well these days
Kevin - screw the flu
SAR - get well soon we miss Your technicals
Brad - good luch against the caveman
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KT - too bad he can't play Webber every night
Salmons - can't be great every night
Corliss - ok I guess
rest - mateen
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Muss - he is learning because this time he only left Ron play in the garbage time. Let's just hope that it won't cause some additional soarnesses.
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Clipps are on the paper better than they are showing it. They are beating Celtics as we speak but that doesn't mean much. Golumn might or might not play. Caveman will abuse us. Artest - Magette matchup suddenly got very interesting. Brand will be brand. Tim Thoms will probably win TDM award. Mobley will win the LW-VC award. When it is all said and done - it is hard to go against the tradition hence the winning streak continues.
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