[Game] Kings @ Chicago Bulls, 2/3/2024, 5:00p PT/8:00p ET
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Why people think that dude is gonna move the needle astounds me.
Even if one was to buy into the notion that Caruso is some poor man’s version of Ron Artest, Bruce Bowen or Kawhi Leonard in their primes — there’s a trade off. The dude is mediocre in pretty much every other aspect of the game, if that. A career single digit average scorer, despite owning a decent 3pt percentage.
The vast majority of fans of this site simply covet what the team doesn’t have until they have it. Then they complain about that players shortcomings.
Reading this site would have the uninformed believing the likes of Kyle Kuzma and Alex Caruso are the missing links while ignoring the fact that they haven’t been the missing links on their current teams, both of which are sub.500 teams with one being absolutely dreadful. But somehow one of those players is somehow gonna make a difference on this team (more so than the players they’d need to trade to get them)?
Caruso is a career journeyman. Nothing more, nothing less. Talk about setting a low bar.
I’m sure someone inevitably point to some “advanced statistics” or the fact that Caruso was a bench scrub on the Lakers manufactured “bubble” championship team in 2020 as some sort of evidence that I’m wrong about him. More power to them.
The point is, as soon as this franchise changes focus and loads up on the Alex Caruso types to fill out their roster, these same KINGS fans will be coveting the types of players the team once had. It’ll be “we play good defense, but can’t score consistently and don’t have a “go to” clutch time player“. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Set your sights higher than Alex Caruso, people! This team is better off remaining status quo.
Last I checked they’ve been a top 3-5 team in the West with what they’ve currently got. Why eff with that to add a marginal at best player? Makes no sense.
Even if one was to buy into the notion that Caruso is some poor man’s version of Ron Artest, Bruce Bowen or Kawhi Leonard in their primes — there’s a trade off. The dude is mediocre in pretty much every other aspect of the game, if that. A career single digit average scorer, despite owning a decent 3pt percentage.
The vast majority of fans of this site simply covet what the team doesn’t have until they have it. Then they complain about that players shortcomings.
Reading this site would have the uninformed believing the likes of Kyle Kuzma and Alex Caruso are the missing links while ignoring the fact that they haven’t been the missing links on their current teams, both of which are sub.500 teams with one being absolutely dreadful. But somehow one of those players is somehow gonna make a difference on this team (more so than the players they’d need to trade to get them)?
Caruso is a career journeyman. Nothing more, nothing less. Talk about setting a low bar.
I’m sure someone inevitably point to some “advanced statistics” or the fact that Caruso was a bench scrub on the Lakers manufactured “bubble” championship team in 2020 as some sort of evidence that I’m wrong about him. More power to them.
The point is, as soon as this franchise changes focus and loads up on the Alex Caruso types to fill out their roster, these same KINGS fans will be coveting the types of players the team once had. It’ll be “we play good defense, but can’t score consistently and don’t have a “go to” clutch time player“. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Set your sights higher than Alex Caruso, people! This team is better off remaining status quo.
Last I checked they’ve been a top 3-5 team in the West with what they’ve currently got. Why eff with that to add a marginal at best player? Makes no sense.
We all know being a KINGS fan ain’t easy. A myriad of bullet points could be listed as to why.
But reading this board all season, you’d never know this team was 29-19 with winning records both at home and on the road while also being in the midst of a franchise best 5-1 road trip.
As many flaws as are constantly brought up about this team, its coaching staff, and its ownership — you’d never know that any of the above was remotely possible.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d think this team was experiencing the Washington Wizards current season and/or headed for it’s 18th consecutive lottery appearance….
But reading this board all season, you’d never know this team was 29-19 with winning records both at home and on the road while also being in the midst of a franchise best 5-1 road trip.
As many flaws as are constantly brought up about this team, its coaching staff, and its ownership — you’d never know that any of the above was remotely possible.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d think this team was experiencing the Washington Wizards current season and/or headed for it’s 18th consecutive lottery appearance….
Fox , Sabonis , Murray , Huerter , Barnes , Monk , Lyles (bolded ones the obvious must start and play 48min if possbile out of question)
That are the guys who will play 100% every game which they are healthy and they will get more then 15 minutes , reasonable playing time. A mean no garbage time , no 30 sec over here and over there ...
Then you have Ellis or Mitchel , depends on what mood Coachs is this month (i can not uderstand the rotation of those two honestly)
And pretty much that is ... So sorry 7.5 guys not 8 ...
That are the guys who will play 100% every game which they are healthy and they will get more then 15 minutes , reasonable playing time. A mean no garbage time , no 30 sec over here and over there ...
Then you have Ellis or Mitchel , depends on what mood Coachs is this month (i can not uderstand the rotation of those two honestly)
And pretty much that is ... So sorry 7.5 guys not 8 ...
And to clear myself , i do not say that Kings have to fire Brown or replace him ...
Just being a fan (in my eyes) does not mean to blindly follow the team and not speak about things you don't like ... I don't like some decisions of Brown - i am discussing them here ... Maybe he is the best option for us , maybe we will be minus 10 not plus 10 with someone else with the same roster , but we have him , so we discsus him ....
One Murray or Fox or Monk are having a bad game or run of them (all 3 had at some point) we discuss this without wanting to trade/sold them , right ?
5-1 out of 6 away games is still a monster result ... Most of us were going to be happy with 3/4 , now we hope for 6/1 ...
Just being a fan (in my eyes) does not mean to blindly follow the team and not speak about things you don't like ... I don't like some decisions of Brown - i am discussing them here ... Maybe he is the best option for us , maybe we will be minus 10 not plus 10 with someone else with the same roster , but we have him , so we discsus him ....
One Murray or Fox or Monk are having a bad game or run of them (all 3 had at some point) we discuss this without wanting to trade/sold them , right ?
5-1 out of 6 away games is still a monster result ... Most of us were going to be happy with 3/4 , now we hope for 6/1 ...
Why people think that dude is gonna move the needle astounds me.
Even if one was to buy into the notion that Caruso is some poor man’s version of Ron Artest, Bruce Bowen or Kawhi Leonard in their primes — there’s a trade off. The dude is mediocre in pretty much every other aspect of the game, if that. A career single digit average scorer, despite owning a decent 3pt percentage.
The vast majority of fans of this site simply covet what the team doesn’t have until they have it. Then they complain about that players shortcomings.
Reading this site would have the uninformed believing the likes of Kyle Kuzma and Alex Caruso are the missing links while ignoring the fact that they haven’t been the missing links on their current teams, both of which are sub.500 teams with one being absolutely dreadful. But somehow one of those players is somehow gonna make a difference on this team (more so than the players they’d need to trade to get them)?
Caruso is a career journeyman. Nothing more, nothing less. Talk about setting a low bar.
I’m sure someone inevitably point to some “advanced statistics” or the fact that Caruso was a bench scrub on the Lakers manufactured “bubble” championship team in 2020 as some sort of evidence that I’m wrong about him. More power to them.
The point is, as soon as this franchise changes focus and loads up on the Alex Caruso types to fill out their roster, these same KINGS fans will be coveting the types of players the team once had. It’ll be “we play good defense, but can’t score consistently and don’t have a “go to” clutch time player“. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Set your sights higher than Alex Caruso, people! This team is better off remaining status quo.
Last I checked they’ve been a top 3-5 team in the West with what they’ve currently got. Why eff with that to add a marginal at best player? Makes no sense.
Even if one was to buy into the notion that Caruso is some poor man’s version of Ron Artest, Bruce Bowen or Kawhi Leonard in their primes — there’s a trade off. The dude is mediocre in pretty much every other aspect of the game, if that. A career single digit average scorer, despite owning a decent 3pt percentage.
The vast majority of fans of this site simply covet what the team doesn’t have until they have it. Then they complain about that players shortcomings.
Reading this site would have the uninformed believing the likes of Kyle Kuzma and Alex Caruso are the missing links while ignoring the fact that they haven’t been the missing links on their current teams, both of which are sub.500 teams with one being absolutely dreadful. But somehow one of those players is somehow gonna make a difference on this team (more so than the players they’d need to trade to get them)?
Caruso is a career journeyman. Nothing more, nothing less. Talk about setting a low bar.
I’m sure someone inevitably point to some “advanced statistics” or the fact that Caruso was a bench scrub on the Lakers manufactured “bubble” championship team in 2020 as some sort of evidence that I’m wrong about him. More power to them.
The point is, as soon as this franchise changes focus and loads up on the Alex Caruso types to fill out their roster, these same KINGS fans will be coveting the types of players the team once had. It’ll be “we play good defense, but can’t score consistently and don’t have a “go to” clutch time player“. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Set your sights higher than Alex Caruso, people! This team is better off remaining status quo.
Last I checked they’ve been a top 3-5 team in the West with what they’ve currently got. Why eff with that to add a marginal at best player? Makes no sense.
I am not so sure it's his fault, he is not the one responsible for them but then again...
1. He challenged some calls himself when players told him to do so early in the game with no success
2. He hesitates to challenge some calls and when he tries to do so the time runs out and the ball is already in play so he misses the chance to do so.
Bottom line I think the "challenge coaching staff" has either to be changed, or become more focused.
Also since it happened again today, our team should not let the game to be delayed for others to get a challenge. Someone else wrote about it in the thread before, it was our substitutions that allowed Donovan to reconsider, take and eventually win the challenge regaining possession of the ball for the Bulls overturning the call. It sucks that Kings are the team that have constant issues with "the challenge". It will be interesting to see if there are anywhere some stats about it in the current season.
1. He challenged some calls himself when players told him to do so early in the game with no success
2. He hesitates to challenge some calls and when he tries to do so the time runs out and the ball is already in play so he misses the chance to do so.
Bottom line I think the "challenge coaching staff" has either to be changed, or become more focused.
Also since it happened again today, our team should not let the game to be delayed for others to get a challenge. Someone else wrote about it in the thread before, it was our substitutions that allowed Donovan to reconsider, take and eventually win the challenge regaining possession of the ball for the Bulls overturning the call. It sucks that Kings are the team that have constant issues with "the challenge". It will be interesting to see if there are anywhere some stats about it in the current season.
You do realize this is the norm for almost every team in the league. They generally have 7 or 8 players that always play and the rest depends on matchups or how players are producing at that particular time. Brown has gone deeper into his bench on a regular basis more often than most coaches this season.
Just wonder if it also has to do with the fact that we are the Kings. IIRC, we were last in FT differential last year, and might be in the same range (if not dead last again) this year, given that teams typically tend to shoot more FTs than us (with some exceptions like tonight).
I would expect teams with a winning record to shoot more FTs, particularly as teams trying to catch up foul at the end to stop the game. Despite winning over the last 1.5 seasons, we routinely have bad FT numbers. Does it extend to challenges too?
I would expect teams with a winning record to shoot more FTs, particularly as teams trying to catch up foul at the end to stop the game. Despite winning over the last 1.5 seasons, we routinely have bad FT numbers. Does it extend to challenges too?
Why people think that dude is gonna move the needle astounds me.
Even if one was to buy into the notion that Caruso is some poor man’s version of Ron Artest, Bruce Bowen or Kawhi Leonard in their primes — there’s a trade off. The dude is mediocre in pretty much every other aspect of the game, if that. A career single digit average scorer, despite owning a decent 3pt percentage.
The vast majority of fans of this site simply covet what the team doesn’t have until they have it. Then they complain about that players shortcomings.
Reading this site would have the uninformed believing the likes of Kyle Kuzma and Alex Caruso are the missing links while ignoring the fact that they haven’t been the missing links on their current teams, both of which are sub.500 teams with one being absolutely dreadful. But somehow one of those players is somehow gonna make a difference on this team (more so than the players they’d need to trade to get them)?
Caruso is a career journeyman. Nothing more, nothing less. Talk about setting a low bar.
I’m sure someone inevitably point to some “advanced statistics” or the fact that Caruso was a bench scrub on the Lakers manufactured “bubble” championship team in 2020 as some sort of evidence that I’m wrong about him. More power to them.
The point is, as soon as this franchise changes focus and loads up on the Alex Caruso types to fill out their roster, these same KINGS fans will be coveting the types of players the team once had. It’ll be “we play good defense, but can’t score consistently and don’t have a “go to” clutch time player“. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Set your sights higher than Alex Caruso, people! This team is better off remaining status quo.
Last I checked they’ve been a top 3-5 team in the West with what they’ve currently got. Why eff with that to add a marginal at best player? Makes no sense.
Even if one was to buy into the notion that Caruso is some poor man’s version of Ron Artest, Bruce Bowen or Kawhi Leonard in their primes — there’s a trade off. The dude is mediocre in pretty much every other aspect of the game, if that. A career single digit average scorer, despite owning a decent 3pt percentage.
The vast majority of fans of this site simply covet what the team doesn’t have until they have it. Then they complain about that players shortcomings.
Reading this site would have the uninformed believing the likes of Kyle Kuzma and Alex Caruso are the missing links while ignoring the fact that they haven’t been the missing links on their current teams, both of which are sub.500 teams with one being absolutely dreadful. But somehow one of those players is somehow gonna make a difference on this team (more so than the players they’d need to trade to get them)?
Caruso is a career journeyman. Nothing more, nothing less. Talk about setting a low bar.
I’m sure someone inevitably point to some “advanced statistics” or the fact that Caruso was a bench scrub on the Lakers manufactured “bubble” championship team in 2020 as some sort of evidence that I’m wrong about him. More power to them.
The point is, as soon as this franchise changes focus and loads up on the Alex Caruso types to fill out their roster, these same KINGS fans will be coveting the types of players the team once had. It’ll be “we play good defense, but can’t score consistently and don’t have a “go to” clutch time player“. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Set your sights higher than Alex Caruso, people! This team is better off remaining status quo.
Last I checked they’ve been a top 3-5 team in the West with what they’ve currently got. Why eff with that to add a marginal at best player? Makes no sense.
We were 2nd at one point and I think we finished 3rd at the end (Heat finished 2nd I think) last season waaaaaaay behind the Lakers that were on top last season and are on top this season as well despite having the fewest drives in the basket in the league. This season we are nowhere near the top teams but stuck at the bottom missing as well so many free throws.
Btw Warriors were dead last by faaaaaaaaar in that differential so in the playoffs series that we were against them and they were "crying" in social media about free throws etc, the Kings shot only 4 more in all the 7 matches which is not statistically equal to the huuuuuuge margin the two teams had in regular season
Btw Warriors were dead last by faaaaaaaaar in that differential so in the playoffs series that we were against them and they were "crying" in social media about free throws etc, the Kings shot only 4 more in all the 7 matches which is not statistically equal to the huuuuuuge margin the two teams had in regular season
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