Ryle
Starter
A couple of posters on that site actually said he was the deal breaker and they didn't want to give him up
Kings/Cavs Blockbuster Trade Rumor
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A couple of posters on that site actually said he was the deal breaker and they didn't want to give him up
Pretty big leap of assumption cliff there...
And one, I think, is totally without merit. Not every trade rumor that comes along or is posted somewhere actually has a basis in fact.
nbrans
All-Star
A couple of posters on that site actually said he was the deal breaker and they didn't want to give him up
I think it's the Justin Williams effect -- they're as desperate for a point guard as we are for a big man, so if you squint right and let your mind wander into dreamland and ignore the reality in front of you, Daniel Gibson looks like the next Bob Cousy and Justin Williams looks like the next Ben Wallace.
gunks
Hall of Famer
Hmmm...Could you try to be a little bit more condescending next time? Thanks.
Anyways, this one has been confirmed by inside sources on several cavs boards, and was on a local radio station there that apparently has been right about these things in the past.
Yes, those are the types of sources that require a grain of salt with the info they release...But there's no reason to entirely rule it out either. And I happen to make a hobby of jumping off the assumption cliff when there's no real news and the team stinks...Passes the time you know?
And nbrans, Justin so IS the next Ben Wallace
Hmmm...Could you try to be a little bit more condescending next time? Thanks.
Anyways, this one has been confirmed by inside sources on several cavs boards, and was on a local radio station there that apparently has been right about these things in the past.
Yes, those are the types of sources that require a grain of salt with the info they release...But there's no reason to entirely rule it out either. And I happen to make a hobby of jumping off the assumption cliff when there's no real news and the team stinks...Passes the time you know?
And nbrans, Justin so IS the next Ben Wallace
They got the deal twisted but a Bibby to Cavs deal was discussed. Ron was never involved.
A couple of posters on that site actually said he was the deal breaker and they didn't want to give him up
They also wanted to add Kevin Martin and Corliss Williamson for David Wesley and Sasha Pavlovic....
Sptsjunkie
Starter
I completely agree. I actually do like Gibson, he's been playing nicely when given minutes and it appears he can shoot. Although, this package is way too high. Why would we give up our two biggest assets for long and brutal contracts? This is a Cavs fan pipedream.
LilMissDiva
Bench
YES!! ...and so what????
Packt
Starter
It's not hard to believe that a discussion about Bibby might veer into Artest's availability.
Still a trade involving Larry Hughes coming to Sac is highly unlikely as long as Kevin is here. Unless they're thinking of him as a big pg, but we already have Salmons and Garcia capable of doing that. Larry is a better defender than both but injury prone.
This deal solves nothing for us and gives us bad and hard to move contracts.
Still a trade involving Larry Hughes coming to Sac is highly unlikely as long as Kevin is here. Unless they're thinking of him as a big pg, but we already have Salmons and Garcia capable of doing that. Larry is a better defender than both but injury prone.
This deal solves nothing for us and gives us bad and hard to move contracts.
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Forget Ben Wallace. I'm just hoping for a Keon Clark without the nuttiness.
if it can somehow get us Varejao, and possibly a draft pick, then no. we keep our mouths shut!reading some of the posts on that cavs board about this... they seem to think bibby is a stud defender. not sure why. shouldn't someone set them straight?
SacKings384
Starter
Basically Bibby and Artest for Gooden and Hughers? That is the worst trade in history...
Miles and Miles
G-League
reading some of the posts on that cavs board about this... they seem to think bibby is a stud defender. not sure why. shouldn't someone set them straight?
OLAY!!!
nbrans
All-Star
If by decent you mean the worst defending point guard in the NBA.... then yeah.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
So true...Bibby gets torched more often than a (insert bad pun here).
He did manage to stay in front of Foye down the stretch last night so maybe there is hope yet.
nbrans
All-Star
So true...Bibby gets torched more often than a (insert bad pun here).
He did manage to stay in front of Foye down the stretch last night so maybe there is hope yet.
Except that Salmons was guarding Foye during the crucial stretch where he turned it over twice.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Well he actually did stay in front of him at least one time...He tried to penetrate, and had to back off, then tried again, and again couldn't make the rim.
He also drew a charge, which could have been completly wild-luck.
nbrans
All-Star
No, you're definitely right, his defense seemed to be better last night.
LA King Fan II
Bench
Same ol' defense for Bibby's defense. He's mediocre at best, but has no big men to help inside. No blocks shots of course, but no big bodies even to slam his opposing point guard. Remember Malone, Barkley and Shaq - the way they'd mercilessly hammer point guards roaming through the key?
Bibby seemed determined to play better D this year, but how much good does it do to force a player to his weak hand when it leads to limp wristed help inside from Rahim, Miller or Thomas? Oh yeah, I forgot we can bring in Corliss to get a hand up (at throat level) to defend Garnett with the game on the line.
Even Artest's defense looks shakey this eyar.
Bibby seemed determined to play better D this year, but how much good does it do to force a player to his weak hand when it leads to limp wristed help inside from Rahim, Miller or Thomas? Oh yeah, I forgot we can bring in Corliss to get a hand up (at throat level) to defend Garnett with the game on the line.
Even Artest's defense looks shakey this eyar.
most_casual_observer
G-League
So true...Bibby gets torched more often than a (insert bad pun here).
He did manage to stay in front of Foye down the stretch last night so maybe there is hope yet.
Too tempting to pass up, we may need a new thread for this.
Bibby gets torched more often than a candle in a monastery!
Miles and Miles
G-League
I do have to admit there was about a 2 minute stretch where Bibby actually played D. So that would be his longest stretch of D for the season.
I heard the trade was Bibby for Lebron (start the next rumor ).
I heard the trade was Bibby for Lebron (start the next rumor
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