The Pacers prematurely ending their rebuild because Rick Carlisle doesn’t like coaching young players would certainly be something. It would also be 100% dependent on Tyrese turning into James Harden or Luka.
Could we sign and trade Barnes for the 7th pick?
I mean assuming we take whatever salary back.
The Pacers prematurely ending their rebuild because Rick Carlisle doesn’t like coaching young players would certainly be something. It would also be 100% dependent on Tyrese turning into James Harden or Luka.
I'm not so sure the #7 pick is necessarily a better package of a proven young NBA starting SG (Huerter), a defensive stalwart PG (Mitchell) plus #24 pick.
It really depends on what Toronto wants, young proven talent or very young unproven talent.
I just don't think it's a given that the #7 pick is a better offer than what the Kings can offer.
Yes and no. Haliburton was redundant, no matter how good he was one of him or Fox had to go as they didn't fit. Keegan FITS. Different scenario.That's what many said about Haliburton. Nobody is untradeable, if a deal puts your team in a better position
Here's a little conspiracy theory. Is the "leak" about us going after OG a signal to Barnes that we are ready to move on?
I'm not saying there is no interest from our side. Plus the leak might have been from the other side. Don't have any data, and hence the conspiracy theory. However, Monte has run a reasonably tight ship so far.
He likely has some numbers from Barnes' camp. Are these too far off from what he's willing to offer? If so, it could be a signal to Barnes that we are ready to move on, even at the risk of a one year rental (and potentially trading away another core piece).
Likely I'm just a bit bored and coming up with these absurd theories. Was just thinking how Barnes would be reacting to these reports, and suddenly thought, "hey! Is this what Monte wants?"
The Raptors seem likely to move on from FVV and Davion very much seems to fit their mold of physically strong PGs, not to mention his defensive prowess. Mitchell isn't the most natural playmaker, but with the ball in Scottie Barnes hands quite a bit, I think he's a really solid fit for what they do.
Huerter really isn't a typical Raptors player, but Davion certainly is. I'd hate to see him go, but if you can get a high level starter to compliment Fox, Murray, and Sabonis then you have to make that move. At some point Davion needs to be given the reigns as a starting PG, because I really think he'll flourish.
Yes and no. Haliburton was redundant, no matter how good he was one of him or Fox had to go as they didn't fit. Keegan FITS. Different scenario.
Everybody knew there was going to be a trade, they just thought it would be Fox until Monte pulled an Uno Reverse card on everyone.
Yeah, and they should be going after Ayton if they're cutting things short. Hali and Ayton in pick and roll is probably tops in the league from day 1. I'm sure the Suns are like, we don't need the 7th pick. Good, make it a 3 team deal. Sure would suck to see OG with the Suns though.
I get that reasoning, but I don't think Monte would trade Keegan. The locker room was one of the most overlooked yet integral part to this past season. Domas and Fox both LOVED Keegan. And from what you saw from Keegan this past year its not unobtainable for him to average 22-25 ppg and 7-8.5 revs per game at his peak, with a block and steal thrown in, on insane efficiency, coupled with some solid defense on the wing and the block, and ice cold production in the clutch.That's true. While I was never sold on Hali and Fox being a perfect fit, the fact that the ones calling the shots on the sidelines couldn't get them to look good at the same time was just plain not getting it. The one or the other thing between the two was completely unnecessary. Plenty of coaches can make two combos/PG's look good simultaneously. That said, if someone like a Jaylen Brown, or maybe even a Siakam came up for trade, I'd bet Monte only looks to keep the clamps on Fox and Domas if he were forced to go all in on a deal. For Monte to make that Haliburton trade it showed he gives no F's. He's looking to win. Heartbreak be darned lol.
I get that reasoning, but I don't think Monte would trade Keegan. The locker room was one of the most overlooked yet integral part to this past season. Domas and Fox both LOVED Keegan. And from what you saw from Keegan this past year its not unobtainable for him to average 22-25 ppg and 7-8.5 revs per game at his peak, with a block and steal thrown in, on insane efficiency, coupled with some solid defense on the wing and the block, and ice cold production in the clutch.
Wings are a premium in this league, I don't think you can risk trading a wing with that kind of potential that you can see is obviously within reach for the player.
I agree. I think if anything Keegan's performance this season as a knockdown shooter and the burst of life he showed in the last few games of that Golden State series is what gives Monte the confidence to step on the accelerator with his team-building. I'd be shocked if he's included in a trade at this point. If McNair feels like he's got his core already with Fox, Monk, Keegan, and Domas alongside a great coach who they all respond to then get them the right complimentary pieces now and lets make a run at this thing while the rest of the league looks unusually vulnerable. You never know how many bites at the apple you're going to get. Bradley Beal's massive contract gives me pause but I don't think there's any downside to bringing in Anunoby if we can get him.
Ham said he if we trade for OG we could extend him 6 months after the trade for 140 percent of his current deal with 8 percent raises. 4 for 117ish. I think that would be in line with what Wiggins extension was if I remember right.
I agree. I think if anything Keegan's performance this season as a knockdown shooter and the burst of life he showed in the last few games of that Golden State series is what gives Monte the confidence to step on the accelerator with his team-building. I'd be shocked if he's included in a trade at this point. If McNair feels like he's got his core already with Fox, Monk, Keegan, and Domas alongside a great coach who they all respond to then get them the right complimentary pieces now and lets make a run at this thing while the rest of the league looks unusually vulnerable. You never know how many bites at the apple you're going to get. Bradley Beal's massive contract gives me pause but I don't think there's any downside to bringing in Anunoby if we can get him.
Ham said he if we trade for OG we could extend him 6 months after the trade for 140 percent of his current deal with 8 percent raises. 4 for 117ish. I think that would be in line with what Wiggins extension was if I remember right.
With the way the cap is going, that’s only 17-20% of the salary cap across some of those future years. Considering a 0-6 year max is 25%, 7-9 is 30%, and 10+ is 35%, that actually may prove to be a fair market value for a player of Anunoby’s caliber.If OG is actually this valuable he'll wait for FA just like Domas likely will. 30 million for a player that's never proven to be a legit 20 PPG scorer is iffy to me, but it is what it is I guess. Whatever Grant gets this summer could be around what OG could realistically nab
If OG is actually this valuable he'll wait for FA just like Domas likely will. 30 million for a player that's never proven to be a legit 20 PPG scorer is iffy to me, but it is what it is I guess. Whatever Grant gets this summer could be around what OG could realistically nab
With the way the cap is going, that’s only 17-20% of the salary cap across some of those future years. Considering a 0-6 year max is 25%, 7-9 is 30%, and 10+ is 35%, that actually may prove to be a fair market value for a player of Anunoby’s caliber.
Honestly their are 3 premier targets for me in this order:
1. Wiggins (i think GSW would be willing to mive him for the right price, especially if Draymond opts in).
2. OG
3. Jeremi Grant
Offer would be Holmes, Davion and this years pick (we would make the pick for them) and a 2 2nds. Grant being a feee agent would probably command $25-$30M so likely needs to Id be ok throwing another future 1st for Wiggins and OG
Reportedly he is seeking nearly $30M and I doubt Portland can do that AND bring in a piece for contention so who knows but i think wiggins and OG are better for us anyway.If Lillard goes Grants probably an option. If not, probably not.
Reportedly he is seeking nearly $30M and I doubt Portland can do that AND bring in a piece for contention so who knows but i think wiggins and OG are better for us anyway.
That is a really odd thing to say after our team just finished 1st in ORTG and 24th in DRTG. Considering we were knocked out in the 1st round, it’s logical to assume we still need to improve if we hope to be a contender one day. Is it easier to improve our 24th ranked defense or our 1st ranked offense? I’d think it’d be considerably easier to improve our 24th ranked defense.Defense right now is not the biggest asset for contending if this years finals proves anything. If OG can break beyond his rather upper role player/role playing star numbers 30+ is easy. As it is? Even as a fan that's an overpay if it gets too high.
That is a really odd thing to say after our team just finished 1st in ORTG and 24th in DRTG. Considering we were knocked out in the 1st round, it’s logical to assume we still need to improve if we hope to be a contender one day. Is it easier to improve our 24th ranked defense or our 1st ranked offense? I’d think it’d be considerably easier to improve our 24th ranked defense.
Anunoby is no PJ Tucker, Robert Covington, Matisse Thybulle, etc. He’s not just a guy that can lock someone down defensively and then just sits in the corner waiting for an open C&S opportunity. His scoring, volume, and efficiency are comparable to someone like Harrison Barnes. A Harrison Barnes with All Defensive Team ability is a hell of a player. Not to mention that Sabonis has very very few players that can fit at PF next to him and be great fits. Anunoby is one of those players.
Again, we’re talking about 17-20% of the cap. People see $30 mil and freak out because that used to be the max level not that long ago. Maxes are 25%/30%/35%. $30 mil/year will be top tier role player money and that’s exactly what he is at this point. But not only is he a top tier role player, he fits the rare mold we need at PF next to Sabonis and he’s only 25 years old.
Again, we’re talking about 17-20% of the cap. People see $30 mil and freak out because that used to be the max level not that long ago. Maxes are 25%/30%/35%. $30 mil/year will be top tier role player money and that’s exactly what he is at this point. But not only is he a top tier role player, he fits the rare mold we need at PF next to Sabonis and he’s only 25 years old.