Keon Ellis and Dennis Schroder traded to Cleveland in 3 team deal. Kings acquire De’Andre Hunter

macadocious said:
My take on Keon is, he can't dribble, and god forbid he leads a break. A guy who needs to be a ball handler who cannot do those things is very limited, regardless of how good he is defensively and catch and shoot. He deserved more minutes than he got, but probably not a ton more.

This has nothing to do with the value of the trade, this is just him in a box. I think there is a way to gameplay for him to succeed, but you need to have strong personnel around him. I think he will flourish in Cleveland.
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My gut tells me he’ll ride the pine in Cleveland and be elsewhere next season. He’s a feel-good story and good guy. I’d like to have him on a good Kings team, but his role is a luxury. Much like Monk. Neither are building blocks for this current team.
 
SLAB said:
I’m down. Multiple picks for Keegan is golden. Keegan is a great piece for a team that needs what he is.

He isn’t a foundation piece of a team tearing it all down.
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I’m hopeful he’ll be a key piece of the rebuild. But we can’t be patient anymore with his shooting. Hunter has 3 months of bad shooting after multiple consecutive years of great 3pt shooting, and he gets knocked for forgetting how to shoot. Keegan has shot terribly since his rookie season. I think he can at least get back to being a 36-38% 3pt shooter but we need to start seeing improvement next season. He can keep shooting sub 30% this year
 
What is it with some of y'all's obsession with getting rid of everyone who's not a franchise cornerstone player? You can't just stack your roster with twelve of those; not even the "glamour" franchises get to do that. And guess what, sometimes you have to get the complimentary pieces first.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
What is it with some of y'all's obsession with getting rid of everyone who's not a franchise cornerstone player? You can't just stack your roster with twelve of those; not even the "glamour" franchises get to do that. And guess what, sometimes you have to get the complimentary pieces first.
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When misery becomes your constant, complaining turns into comfort, and unhappiness feels like the only place you know how to be happy.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
What is it with some of y'all's obsession with getting rid of everyone who's not a franchise cornerstone player? You can't just stack your roster with twelve of those; not even the "glamour" franchises get to do that. And guess what, sometimes you have to get the complimentary pieces first.
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Not saying I "WANT" to get rid of Keegan. I'm saying I'm "OPEN" to the idea if we can get a 1st in the lottery this year. Have you done your scouting this year? This is arguably the deepest draft class in the past 20 years. Not only that, you can literally get younger and get a player on a rookie deal
 
SacKings123 said:
Not saying I "WANT" to get rid of Keegan. I'm saying I'm "OPEN" to the idea if we can get a 1st in the lottery this year. Have you done your scouting this year? This is arguably the deepest draft class in the past 20 years. Not only that, you can literally get younger and get a player on a rookie deal
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I'm coming around to this but it has to be a hell of a deal. Like, it's gotta be an unprotected first from a lotto team, and I don't think any of them would do that. Trading Keegan just to trade him isn't it. He's an elite defender.

I guess it comes down to betting on getting a prospect that will be as good as Keegan and a better age fit timeline wise vs betting on Keegan getting back to passable on offense. I'd say the latter choice is less risky, bird in the hand and all of that.
 
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SacKings123 said:
Fair. Even the idea of reseting Kings payroll should play a factor. Unless we are expecting the Kings to compete next year
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There's still a floor that we need to adhere to. I'd also argue that Keegan's contract isn't the anchor some are making it out to be.
If we got rid of Zach and DDR, we'd STILL have to bring back about $25 million to hit the floor. (Eyeballing)
 
Spike said:
There's still a floor that we need to adhere to. I'd also argue that Keegan's contract isn't the anchor some are making it out to be.
If we got rid of Zach and DDR, we'd STILL have to bring back about $25 million to hit the floor. (Eyeballing)
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One season of a solid 3pt percentage and Keegan would be a hot commodity again. We ditch the iso-vets and maybe find a decent coach as The Cycle continues and sees Christie out the door in a season or two, Keegan might have himself an offensive renaissance.

But then again, if that happens would we want to trade him?!
 
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SacKings123 said:
At this point I wouldn't be upset if we traded Keegan. I would like a 26' 1st (in the lottery) at the very least for him
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Pretty sure it has to be this summer for a trade to work. But I agree... The best fit to me is the Thunder. I'm not sure if they have the stomach to eat that salary long term next to Chet, Shai, Jdub. But he'd be a perfect fit.

Keegan for Isaiah Joe, Jaylin Williams, Kenrich + Clippers pick (#12) + another future 1st or one of the other 2026 picks they have.

Thunder probably losing Hartenstein due to cap reasons this summer.
Shai - Williams - Dort - Keegan - Chet
Topic - Mitchell - Wallace - Caruso - Wiggins - Sorber

Super deep team and we would get to see our boy Keegan ball out with wide open 3s and Chet/Dort on defense.
 
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