Kenny Thomas

[Bonzinator]

although the kings had great performances from BRAD, KEVIN and BIBBY i am worried that kenny thomas doesnt wanna be here and that ever since the preseason when shareef became the starter his confidence went way way down and his jumper isnt falling as much as it was last year. do you think the same thing or do you think he will play better? because im starting to wish we kept songaila and traded kenny.

 

[Bricklayer]

Frankly Kenny Thomas does not worry me one way or the other at this point. His contract worries me. His potential to become a cancer worries me. His productivity or lack thereof? We've got so many duplicative players that it is doesn't even make the list of concerns about this team for me.

From Kenny's perspective regardless of whether he wants to be traded or wants to stay, it would behoove him to take advantage of this opportunity to try to convince some GM/coach somewhere that he can/should be a starter for them. Unlikely, but not impossible. There are still a few needy teams out there who might be starting worse at the moment.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

... There are still a few needy teams out there who might be starting worse at the moment.

coughknickscough

 

[DaMan]

although the kings had great performances from BRAD, KEVIN and BIBBY i am worried that kenny thomas doesnt wanna be here and that ever since the preseason when shareef became the starter his confidence went way way down and his jumper isnt falling as much as it was last year. do you think the same thing or do you think he will play better? because im starting to wish we kept songaila and traded kenny.

Many might be thinking about this right now but just might not want to say it, thomas might have to start. The game was faster and had alot of ball movement but when sar plays he slow everything down. I think playmaker bought it up first that thomas might just be the better fit for this team then sar is. As a big sar fan, sadly he might be right, after what was displayed yesterday.

 

[Bonzinator]

Many might be thinking about this right now but just might not want to say it, thomas might have to start. The game was faster and had alot of ball movement but when sar plays he slow everything down. I think playmaker bought it up first that thomas might just be the better fit for this team then sar is. As a big sar fan, sadly he might be right, after what was displayed yesterday.

SAR has been our second best player besides bonzi. and he can score inside anytime he wants, something this team hasnt had in years. in the playoffs the kings wont be able to run up and down like they did against the clippers. so when the game slows down the kings will be able to throw it inside to BONZI and SAR. and thats much better then having a jumpshooter like kenny thomas who by the way isnt making any jumpshots!

 

[DaMan]

SAR has been our second best player besides bonzi. and he can score inside anytime he wants, something this team hasnt had in years. in the playoffs the kings wont be able to run up and down like they did against the clippers. so when the game slows down the kings will be able to throw it inside to BONZI and SAR. and thats much better then having a jumpshooter like kenny thomas who by the way isnt making any jumpshots!

I totally agree with u man, like i said before i am a big sar fan (but not bigger then playmaker) and i do agree sar and bonzi have been our best players. Yesterday could have been a one good game thing but they did play pretty well. And to me there are two types of players (and maybe the reason we have been losing ) the kings have the post up players with sar and bonzi and the princeton players with the core three and if u like what u saw yesterday i think u should go with thomas and the core. And Also it doesn't look like we are going to the playoffs right know, so that is the least of our problems.

 

[BMiller52]

SAR has been our second best player besides bonzi. and he can score inside anytime he wants, something this team hasnt had in years. in the playoffs the kings wont be able to run up and down like they did against the clippers. so when the game slows down the kings will be able to throw it inside to BONZI and SAR. and thats much better then having a jumpshooter like kenny thomas who by the way isnt making any jumpshots!

The thing is SAR is a blackhole and once it goes into him it's not coming out until the shotclock is nearing 0 because he's looking for his own shots. Marbury does it too. It is good for stat padding and making yourself look good but it does nothing for your teammates and it makes you hard to trust. When he plays we have way too much one on one play and that is bad because none of our guys command a double team or create their own shot. In addition, he doesn't hustle much, he doesn't rebound, he's unathletic, he's not very fast, he doesn't set very good picks because his body isn't very wide. Very talented player, IMO he would benefit under a coach like larry brown. We need someone next to Brad Miller who is athletic and can rebound and does the dirty work, or atleast someone who fits better than SAR does. He's a good player but he doesn't fit in and he's not "THAT PLAYER" who you build a team around(IE a Chris Webber, Tracy Mcgrady, Vince Carter, Jermaine O'neal, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd). We need a player that does what THE TEAM needs them to do, not a team that does what a player needs them to do(unless they're Vince Carter, Jermaine O'neal, Jason Kidd, etc.). A guy like Haslem imo would be perfect, too bad his contract has a BYC status.

 

[DaMan]

The thing is SAR is a blackhole and once it goes into him it's not coming out until the shotclock is nearing 0 because he's looking for his own shots. Marbury does it too. It is good for stat padding and making yourself look good but it does nothing for your teammates and it makes you hard to trust. When he plays we have way too much one on one play and that is bad because none of our guys command a double team or create their own shot. In addition, he doesn't hustle much, he doesn't rebound, he's unathletic, he's not very fast, he doesn't set very good picks because his body isn't very wide. Very talented player, IMO he would benefit under a coach like larry brown. We need someone next to Brad Miller who is athletic and can rebound and does the dirty work, or atleast someone who fits better than SAR does. He's a good player but he doesn't fit in and he's not "THAT PLAYER" who you build a team around(IE a Chris Webber, Tracy Mcgrady, Vince Carter, Jermaine O'neal, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd). We need a player that does what THE TEAM needs them to do, not a team that does what a player needs them to do(unless they're Vince Carter, Jermaine O'neal, Jason Kidd, etc.). A guy like Haslem imo would be perfect, too bad his contract has a BYC status.

I would have to disagree with most of the things u said about sar, he is not a black hole he has pass the ball many times, and not many times with the shot clock at 0. And sar does need double teams down low or he would just kill u with a post move. And many of the things u said about sar could be said about brad, and if u don't like players taking to many shots i don't think u would like T-mac, vince, etc. The problem with sar is not with most of the things u just said, its that he doesn't work in the system they played yesterday. Either they get rid of the princeton off or sar. And in my opinion if your going to get a player like vince or t-mac etc u would better to keep sar because u could change the princeton off and play the inside outside game with him and who every.

 

[Bonzinator]

The thing is SAR is a blackhole and once it goes into him it's not coming out until the shotclock is nearing 0 because he's looking for his own shots. Marbury does it too. It is good for stat padding and making yourself look good but it does nothing for your teammates and it makes you hard to trust. When he plays we have way too much one on one play and that is bad because none of our guys command a double team or create their own shot. In addition, he doesn't hustle much, he doesn't rebound, he's unathletic, he's not very fast, he doesn't set very good picks because his body isn't very wide. Very talented player, IMO he would benefit under a coach like larry brown. We need someone next to Brad Miller who is athletic and can rebound and does the dirty work, or atleast someone who fits better than SAR does. He's a good player but he doesn't fit in and he's not "THAT PLAYER" who you build a team around(IE a Chris Webber, Tracy Mcgrady, Vince Carter, Jermaine O'neal, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd). We need a player that does what THE TEAM needs them to do, not a team that does what a player needs them to do(unless they're Vince Carter, Jermaine O'neal, Jason Kidd, etc.). A guy like Haslem imo would be perfect, too bad his contract has a BYC status.

are you out of your mind! shareef is not a black hole he is one of the best at passing the ball out of the double team and he is very unselfish. and you must be drunk if you think that you can build a team around webber. i hope you mean the old webber before he got injured because i wouldnt build a treehouse around CHRIS WEBBER!

 

[Bricklayer]

are you out of your mind! shareef is not a black hole he is one of the best at passing the ball out of the double team and he is very unselfish. and you must be drunk if you think that you can build a team around webber. i hope you mean the old webber before he got injured because i wouldnt build a treehouse around CHRIS WEBBER!

And yet oddly Miller/Webb/Peja/Doug/Bibby >>>>>> Miller/SAR/Peja/Bonzi/Bibby, and I can virtually guarantee you it wasn't because last year's Doug was better than this year's Bonzi.

Some people are just a little slow/stubborn about what has become evident in the last year of Kings play.

I'm also a little tired of all the passive-aggressive bunk from SAR boosters "oh, he's so wonderful but it looks like the Kings just don't know how to use him right and maybe they'd be better off with Kenny". Garbage. Fishing for either a complimentary "its not his fault, he's great!" post, or hoping their man can move onto his 1947th team in search of a winning record while getting to play the game exactly the way he wants to, and apparently never looking in the mirror and connecting the dots. SAR will OBVIOUSLY be the starter once he gets healthy. Doesn't mean he is the best starter for this team in the league. Doesn't mean he's even a Top 10 PF. Does mean he's still better than Kenny Thomas and is still a guy who could be a force if he ever developed a passion for things other than scoring.

Enough dumbness. SAR is our starter. Kenny is a backup. Webb is still better than both of them. And let's not even talk about the good old days.

 

[DaMan]

I'm also a little tired of all the passive-aggressive bunk from SAR boosters "oh, he's so wonderful but it looks like the Kings just don't know how to use him right and maybe they'd be better off with Kenny". Garbage. Fishing for either a complimentary "its not his fault, he's great!" post, or hoping their man can move onto his 1947th team in search of a winning record while getting to play the game exactly the way he wants to, and apparently never looking in the mirror and connecting the dots. SAR will OBVIOUSLY be the starter once he gets healthy. Doesn't mean he is the best starter for this team in the league. Doesn't mean he's even a Top 10 PF. Does mean he's still better than Kenny Thomas and is still a guy who could be a force if he ever developed a passion for things other than scoring.

I know this was aimed at me but if the play from yesterday does continue, not saying it will,why not just go with what works? I might be a sar fan but if the kings are losing and somehow its due to sar, not saying he is, he must be traded or benched for the success of the team. In my opinion i would just package a deal together with sar and peja and get that superstar player we in return in return.

 

[G_M]

Hopefully with SAR out Kenny can string together some good performances to increase his trade value. That's what I'm thinking.

 

[CruzDude]

Kenny IS the starter now and for the foreseable future. He was a starter in Philly before trade and knows that role well. Let's see what he can do and how the team, the new team, does with him. If he and kevin become the 2/3 scorers behind bibby, and we win, who cares? It's what we all want. If not after a few games then we can become whiners and idiots again. But in mean time lets see how he does starting with Martin for sure and Kenny likely, depending on matchups.

 

[playmaker0017]

The thing is SAR is a blackhole and once it goes into him it's not coming out until the shotclock is nearing 0 because he's looking for his own shots.

It's pretty hard to say that of a player that is shooting 10-11 shots a game.