Keegan "Keegan Murray" Murray signs a 5-year 140 million Extension

Keegan may be the biggest winner of the Fox fiasco as I'm not sure that this amount of money would have been there after we max Fox. This is the first real sign that our new front office may indeed have a long-term plan that's worth a damn. They need to retain Keon Ellis now when he becomes extension eligible but there's still hope that we may emerge from this "gap year" in a decent position to avoid a scorched Earth "Sam Hinkie" type of rebuild.
Hinkie missed on well over half his picks which is the difference between him and Presti who has rebuilt from scratch twice. I need to see more out of Perry before I'd trust him to get it right. I do feel like he got nice value in this draft though.
 
Hinkie missed on well over half his picks which is the difference between him and Presti who has rebuilt from scratch twice. I need to see more out of Perry before I'd trust him to get it right. I do feel like he got nice value in this draft though.

Sam Hinkie is the goat unless you’re one of those that think that process continued after him
 
Sam Hinkie is the goat unless you’re one of those that think that process continued after him
Presti did it before and after and did it better. Hinkie hit on two picks until one of those picks became trash in the middle of his second contract. They had five straight years of top 5 picks? Plus whatever else they acquired before he got canned?

And their reward for that has never been advancing past the second round, exactly where they were when he decided to begin the process.

GOAT my-a.
 
Presti did it before and after and did it better. Hinkie hit on two picks until one of those picks became trash in the middle of his second contract. They had five straight years of top 5 picks? Plus whatever else they acquired before he got canned?

And their reward for that has never been advancing past the second round, exactly where they were when he decided to begin the process.

GOAT my-a.

It’s was working and the league didn’t like it and fired him the process was half finished. Also he turned chicken crap into a playoff team how is that not a success even after they stopped him? If in 5 years we’re a consistent playoff team with an mvp player in his 20’s do you not consider that a successful rebuild. Hinkie doesn’t trade Bridges and picks for smith btw… the process worked despite firing him half way and bringing in a nepo kid who made clown moves after
 
It’s was working and the league didn’t like it and fired him the process was half finished. Also he turned chicken crap into a playoff team how is that not a success even after they stopped him? If in 5 years we’re a consistent playoff team with an mvp player in his 20’s do you not consider that a successful rebuild. Hinkie doesn’t trade Bridges and picks for smith btw… the process worked despite firing him half way and bringing in a nepo kid who made clown moves after
They were a 2nd round playoff team he dismantled to create what ultimately capped out as a 2nd round playoff team. His talent evaluation was subpar. By the time he got fired they were done tanking so he'd have just gone on making bad talent evaluations.

Meanwhile Presti rebuilt Seattle into OKC in like 3 drafts, got to the finals in 5 or 6 seasons, owner said he didn't want to pay the guys and ~10 years later he has a title and a team that is even more stacked.

There's no comparison, almost every team that has gone full tank has turned around faster and better.
 
They were a 2nd round playoff team he dismantled to create what ultimately capped out as a 2nd round playoff team. His talent evaluation was subpar. By the time he got fired they were done tanking so he'd have just gone on making bad talent evaluations.

Meanwhile Presti rebuilt Seattle into OKC in like 3 drafts, got to the finals in 5 or 6 seasons, owner said he didn't want to pay the guys and ~10 years later he has a title and a team that is even more stacked.

There's no comparison, almost every team that has gone full tank has turned around faster and better.

Alright stop comparing him to presti let’s compare him to everyone else also presti had the benefit of having harden and Westbrook as trade assets to start

When he was done they would’ve had Simmons, Embiid, Bridges and possibly Fox
 
Alright stop comparing him to presti let’s compare him to everyone else also presti had the benefit of having harden and Westbrook as trade assets to start

When he was done they would’ve had Simmons, Embiid, Bridges and possibly Fox
I am comparing him to recent jobs done by Houston and San Antonio possibly Portland if they are a play in team this year that all may pay better dividends while only going into the gutter for 3 cycles. Hinkie had an unoriginal idea and broke even after 5 years of unwatchable ball.
 
I am comparing him to recent jobs done by Houston and San Antonio possibly Portland if they are a play in team this year that all may pay better dividends while only going into the gutter for 3 cycles. Hinkie had an unoriginal idea and broke even after 5 years of unwatchable ball.

San Antonio rebuild was literally tanking and getting Wemby then tanking again when Wemby got hurt
 
San Antonio rebuild was literally tanking and getting Wemby then tanking again when Wemby got hurt
They had the 4th pick in the last draft and at least short returns say they did better than picks 1-3.

Anyhow the point here originally was that I'm not sure yet if Perry is the guy I want picking in the event we do go full tank for the next 2-3 seasons (intentionally or otherwise).

The good news is he hasn't exactly made any crippling trades and Nique appears to be a nice pickup at the cost of a lottery protected Spurs pick (that returns to us if Wemby gets injured and they get a miracle pick). The bad news is that we still have DDR/Monk/LaVine on this team and really only have room for one of them, especially since for whatever reason we just brought Russ in.
 
They had the 4th pick in the last draft and at least short returns say they did better than picks 1-3.

Anyhow the point here originally was that I'm not sure yet if Perry is the guy I want picking in the event we do go full tank for the next 2-3 seasons (intentionally or otherwise).

The good news is he hasn't exactly made any crippling trades and Nique appears to be a nice pickup at the cost of a lottery protected Spurs pick (that returns to us if Wemby gets injured and they get a miracle pick). The bad news is that we still have DDR/Monk/LaVine on this team and really only have room for one of them, especially since for whatever reason we just brought Russ in.

If we get a top three pick this year surely we can’t **** it up the top three fit with the young guys
 
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