Kayte post-game right on

[CruzDude]

Listening to Kayte's post-game analysis with Jason Ross was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON! A nail on the head so to speak. The point of her analysis I listened to was that both times Coach brought Tyreke back in, last 4 min of regulation and when Kings were up by 7 in first overtime, they stopped scoring and Tyreke failed both times in 1-on-1 vs. Kobe, once he held ball the final 20+ sec. and didn't get off a shot.

And in both cases Brockman was brought out and, Kayte indicated, he was a key factor in getting them to that point. I was there and saw it happen. The Kings need a true point guard on the floor at the end of games. She said she overheard coach telling them essentially they were standing around when Tyreke was going 1-on-1 late and to not do that and run a play but team went out and ignored his input.

I agree first hand. That was the gist of her analysis.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

Listening to Kayte's post-game analysis with Jason Ross was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON! A nail on the head so to speak. The point of her analysis I listened to was that both times Coach brought Tyreke back in, last 4 min of regulation and when Kings were up by 7 in first overtime, they stopped scoring and Tyreke failed both times in 1-on-1 vs. Kobe, once he held ball the final 20+ sec. and didn't get off a shot.

And in both cases Brockman was brought out and, Kayte indicated, he was a key factor in getting them to that point. I was there and saw it happen. The Kings need a true point guard on the floor at the end of games. She said she overheard coach telling them essentially they were standing around when Tyreke was going 1-on-1 late and to not do that and run a play but team went out and ignored his input.

I agree first hand. That was the gist of her analysis.

Agree and disagree. Evans can fill that role capably, not sure that we need a "pure PG." Afterall, we just watched Kobe and LeBron handle the end of the game duties and neither of them is a pure PG. However, you are right, our offense became very predictable both times Evans was reinserted. Instead of running a successful motion offense, we got the ball to Evans who either waited too long and then went 1 on 1 or we set a high screen. We need to continue to run our offense and Evans needs to learn how to play the last couple of minutes like he does the rest of the game. Starting sooner and being willing to pass off to a teammate if the other team doubles. Because against both the Cavs and Lakers we got too stagnanat.

 

[dbfish]

Evans just needs to learn to take the blinders off.

 

[mr. moustache]

Exactly. It's not really a big deal. We had recent success with Evans in an iso situation at the end of games. Now we've had two games in a row where the result was just terrible.

I think the solution is pretty simple. Instead of pounding the ball for 20 seconds, pound it for 10-15. Try and keep an eye out for an open man. Most of all, get up a shot. Dribbling for 20 sec, then panicking and turning it over isn't going to get it done.

Also, I really want to see Evans stop taking contested jumpers.

Really though, seeing Kmart flop his way into the lane isn't a greater alternative.

Evans just needs to learn to take the blinders off.

 

[SacKings384]

I agree on the first part. But I don't agree with putting the blame on the rest of the players for standing around. They were running ISO's, and Reke wasn't looking to create for others. What were they supposed to do? Look, it's one game and Reke is a rook so you have to let it slide of course. I just hope he learns from these games and elevates his game to Superstar level by learning that the team is most important, and doesn't become merely a stats player.

 

[rainmaker]

I agree on the first part. But I don't agree with putting the blame on the rest of the players for standing around. They were running ISO's, and Reke wasn't looking to create for others. What were they supposed to do? Look, it's one game and Reke is a rook so you have to let it slide of course. I just hope he learns from these games and elevates his game to Superstar level by learning that the team is most important, and doesn't become merely a stats player.

I'm sure Tyreke will learn from this. I think he will be criticized a lot less for holding the ball when he's rackingup assists to Kevin. Also, it won't be as easy for a team to put a Kobe or Lebron on him when Kevins out there.

 

[bajaden]

Just for fun I thought I would do a comparison of Kobe when 20 yr's old with Tyreke at age 20.

Kobe: 38 MPG, 19.9 PPG, .465%, 5.3 RPG, 3.8 APG, 1.4 SPG

Evans: 37 MPG, 20.3 PPG, .461%, 5.1 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.5 SPG

Almost the exact same numbers. And remember that this was Kobe's third year in the NBA against Tyreke's first.

Here are Kobe's first two years in the league.

1st year: 15 MPG, 7.6 PPG, .417%, 1.9 RPG, 1.3 APG
2nd year: 26 MPG, 15.4 PPG, .428%, 3.1 RPG, 2.5 APG

Somewhat humble beginnings, but he turned out pretty good.

 

[DeMoN]

Just for fun I thought I would do a comparison of Kobe when 20 yr's old with Tyreke at age 20.

Kobe: 38 MPG, 19.9 PPG, .465%, 5.3 RPG, 3.8 APG, 1.4 SPG

Evans: 37 MPG, 20.3 PPG, .461%, 5.1 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.5 SPG

Almost the exact same numbers. And remember that this was Kobe's third year in the NBA against Tyreke's first.

Here are Kobe's first two years in the league.

1st year: 15 MPG, 7.6 PPG, .417%, 1.9 RPG, 1.3 APG
2nd year: 26 MPG, 15.4 PPG, .428%, 3.1 RPG, 2.5 APG

Somewhat humble beginnings, but he turned out pretty good.

Not the age, but the experience part scares me...

 

[SacKings384]

Just for fun I thought I would do a comparison of Kobe when 20 yr's old with Tyreke at age 20.

Kobe: 38 MPG, 19.9 PPG, .465%, 5.3 RPG, 3.8 APG, 1.4 SPG

Evans: 37 MPG, 20.3 PPG, .461%, 5.1 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.5 SPG

Remember that Kobe had to learn that stats weren't everything. Tyreke has all the talent in the world like Kobe, but it wasn't a given that Kobe would pan out the way he did.

 

[6th]

Remember that Kobe had to learn that stats weren't everything. Tyreke has all the talent in the world like Kobe, but it wasn't a given that Kobe would pan out the way he did.

Nothing about that play was about Tyreke's stats. He was doing exactly what the coach told him to do.

 

[bajaden]

Remember that Kobe had to learn that stats weren't everything. Tyreke has all the talent in the world like Kobe, but it wasn't a given that Kobe would pan out the way he did.

Actually Kobe was less of a given than Tyreke is. Remember Kobe wasn't the 4th pick in the draft where your expected to be a difference maker. He was take at number 13, one pick before Peja and two picks before Steve Nash. But he was taken after such household names as, Lorenzen Wright, Samaki Walker, Eric Dampier, Todd Fuller, Kerry Kittles and the great, great, great, Vitaly Potapenko. There were pundits around the league that thought taking him at 13 was a reach.

So its fair to say that the expectations for Tyreke are higher than the expectations were for Kobe when he was drafted. I do think Jerry West had a clue though.

 

[ParniValjak]

Actually Kobe was less of a given than Tyreke is. Remember Kobe wasn't the 4th pick in the draft where your expected to be a difference maker. He was take at number 13, one pick before Peja and two picks before Steve Nash. But he was taken after such household names as, Lorenzen Wright, Samaki Walker, Eric Dampier, Todd Fuller, Kerry Kittles and the great, great, great, Vitaly Potapenko. There were pundits around the league that thought taking him at 13 was a reach.

So its fair to say that the expectations for Tyreke are higher than the expectations were for Kobe when he was drafted. I do think Jerry West had a clue though.

Actually there is also a strong indication that the only reason Kobe slipped to 13 was because he refused to play for some teams. NJ in particular were high on him but he was not interested in playing with them, he only wanted to play for the Lakers who already had a deal in place with the Hornets for the 13th pick.

Kobe would have gone top 10 if he weren't such a drama queen. NJ would have selected him without blinking if they thought he would show up to training camp.