Kanter possibly #1 overall?

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Ford thinks Kanter can still go #1. Insider article, but here's part of it. This is interesting because it could turn a 2 player draft into a 3 player draft, and if we get the 3rd pick, increases the chances of Irving/Williams falling to #3. I'd be pretty happy to have Kanter as well.

Kanter, then just 17, shook off a poor week of practices (he later revealed he had a sore back that kept him from jumping and almost prevented him from playing) to dominate in the game. Kanter had 34 points (a Hoop Summit record), 13 boards and did it all in 22 minutes. He did a lot of his damage against McDonald's MVP Jared Sullinger.
I wrote back then that "Kanter was a beast in the paint, muscling his way in for position and regularly clawing his way through a pair of Team USA's high-profile bigs for a whopping eight offensive boards ... Not only was he a bear around the basket, but he also showed off his ability to put the ball on the floor and hit the outside J. On Saturday night, Kanter looked like a future lottery pick."
While legitimate questions remain about the loss of two critical years of game development, Kanter possesses virtually all the qualities NBA teams are looking for in bigs, especially for a kid who is one of the youngest players in this year's draft.
He's big (he measured a shade below 6-foot-11 in shoes with a 7-1 wingspan at the Hoop Summit), has a NBA body, and uses his strength around the basket. He has a relentless motor on the boards and has excellent footwork for an 18-year-old big man. He's also gotten in terrific shape in Chicago and appears much more explosive than we thought last year. At the Hoop Summit, Kanter was nursing a back injury and could barely get off the floor. In workouts here at ATTACK, Kanter showed he had no problem playing over the rim. While he's no Blake Griffin, he's not a stiff either.
Kanter also showed the ability to step out and hit everything from 18-foot jumpers to NBA 3s. While I don't think his primary role will be to stretch the defense in the NBA, he has the ability.
He's also a very articulate, passionate kid off the court. When he came to America in the Fall of 2009, he didn't speak a word of English. Two years later, he was able to conduct an interview in perfect English. His father, a respected doctor and professor in Turkey, stressed education and Kanter seems to have listened
While I initially believed that Kanter's year off would hurt his draft stock, I'm no longer concerned after talking with a number of NBA execs. Virtually every team I spoke with has him as a top-five prospect on their board. A few told me they believe, had he played at Kentucky this year, he may have been the favorite to go No. 1 overall.
He still might have a chance to go No. 1 overall if the Washington Wizards get the No. 1 pick. While we currently have them taking Derrick Williams No. 1 in our Mock Draft Lottery, a well-placed source said Kanter would be in the conversation. The Detroit Pistons and the Golden State Warriors also have needs that could place Kanter in the mix. But after Kyrie Irving and Williams are off the table, I'm not sure there's a player with more upside in this Draft.
 
I speculated about this in another thread as well. I do think that Williams and Irving are better prospects than Kanter at this point, but depending on who lands where in the draft, a team may be in need of a young big and could take a chance on Kanter, dropping Irving or Williams to 3
 
Let me ask you this. If Minny gets the number one pick, what is their greatest need? Certainly not PG, although the way Kahn collects them it wouldn't surprise me. What they don't have on that team is a highly skilled offensive center. Yes I know they have Milicic and last year added Pekovic. But Kanter is likely to be better than both of them. I suspose they could take Williams, but they have Beasley and also Wesley Johnson who can play the SF position. And don't forget Anthony Randolph.

The guy that makes the most sense for that team is Kanter. But then again, were talking about Kahn here, so who the hell knows.

How about Cleveland? Can anyone tell me who their center is? I didn't think so! If Cleveland ends up with the first pick, I would think its almost a slam dunk to take Kanter. They could use a PG as well, but they do have Baron Davis.

Toronto is hard to say. They have a starting center, but he plays more like a PF or a SF, and thats Bargnani, who would rather shoot 3 pointers than bang around the basket. They also have Alabi, but he's still light years away from any major contribution. So they could certainly use a Kanter. But they might be inticed by Irving as well. They still have Calderon, and Bayless backing him up. But if they don't see Bayless as the heir apparent to Calderon, then they might go for Irving.

I think Washington is a slam dunk for Williams. Their not perfect at the center position, but they have several guys that can fill the position starting with McGee. They also have John Wall, so I doubt they much interest in Irving. It would have to be Williams here.

So I think its highly possible, if his knee's check out, that Kanter could go Number 1. I've been doing some research on tendinitis, and depending on how extreme it is, such as an actual tear of the tendon, its not something thats career threatening. What Kanter had, as far as I can tell, is the equvilent of tennis elbow, except in the knee. The entire area where the tendon attaches becomes inflamed and of course, painful.

In most cases, rest and some medication to reduce the inflamation take care of the problem. Since I've had tennis elbow, and I had it so bad I couldn't hold a coffee cup with out pain, I can attest that I've had no reocurrence, despite doing everything in my power to reinjure it.

Anyway, I'm far from being an expert on the subject, so take it for what its worth. Which is nothing..
 
The more I think about it, Kanter might make a lot of sense for the Kings. I think the Kings are doing just fine at the guard positions with Evans/Udrih/Thornton. If they drafted Kanter, then resigning Dalembert would no longer be a priority. That would leave them enough money to resign Thornton, sign or trade for a starting SF, and still have some cap room left going forward.
 
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The more I think about, Kanter might make a lot of sense for the Kings. I think the Kings are doing just fine at the guard positions with Evans/Udrih/Thornton. If they drafted Kanter, then resigning Dalembert would no longer be a priority. That would leave them enough money to resign Thornton, sign or trade for a starting SF, and still have some cap room left going forward.

I think they would still attempt to resign Dalembert even if they drafted Kanter. However, it would give them a little more leverage in the negotiation process. And in the event, some other team with enough money and desparate for a center, offers him 12 mil a year, Kanter would be nice insurance to have.

I think the only way we end up with Kanter, is if we get into the top three. I truely believe he'll go top three. If we end up picking at five, we're looking at a whole different group of players. I think Irving, Williams, Kanter, and Knight are going in some order in the top four.
 
The more I think about how this year's draft is shaping up, I'm actually becoming optimistic about the top prospects. Yes Barnes and P. Jones were big losses, but both of them were risky picks anyway and will probably be better off for spending another year in college. Williams, Irving, Kanter, and Knight are all solid picks I think and I wouldn't be surprised if any one of those guys ends up being an All-Star at some point. After that there's still Walker, Biyombo, and Vesely who are intriguing for various reasons.

This is usually the time of year that big man prospects start creeping up the draft boards. We'll get a better idea of his situation after workouts, but I'd agree there's a chance of Kanter moving himself into the #1 spot by draft time. Williams and Irving are both the type of players who benefit more from game situations than individual workouts I'd say. Knight might actually move up too for that reason though I doubt Irving's agent will let them work out together.

I guess the bad news for us is that we have no chance at the #4 pick so we'll have to hope someone else moves up the board if our pick lands 5th, 6th, or 7th. Only one more day till we know for sure.
 
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I don't see Kanter going number one overall but if that were to happen that's good news to us if we are in the top 5, otherwise it wouldn't matter much.
 
I could see Kanter going #1, easily. Those big guys are hard to find and there are plenty of teams looking for one. Also, as the article suggests, Kanter could be prime trade-bait. If the Kings are in a position to draft Kanter, it wouldn't surprise me to see them trade him.
 
Query about Kanter: he definitely coming over next year? Or is there a chance he could be a very high variety of the draft and stash?

I am wondering here of course about our own reaction should he be sitting there when we pick. Although I suppose that there is nothing wrong at all with the idea of going Cousins/Daly/JT/Kanter/Whiteside as the most talented frontcourt in the NBA. And unlike most talented frontcourts, all but one of those guys would be on rookie deals, so they would be both talented and cheap.
 
He is not under any contract with a professional team. He was supposed to play for Kentucky this year, but was ruled ineligible because of previous earnings. He's very likely to play next year.
 
Query about Kanter: he definitely coming over next year? Or is there a chance he could be a very high variety of the draft and stash?

I am wondering here of course about our own reaction should he be sitting there when we pick. Although I suppose that there is nothing wrong at all with the idea of going Cousins/Daly/JT/Kanter/Whiteside as the most talented frontcourt in the NBA. And unlike most talented frontcourts, all but one of those guys would be on rookie deals, so they would be both talented and cheap.

Not a problem with Kanter. As others have said he should have played for Kentucky this past season, but the NCAA in their infinite wisdom, and their own personal inturpretation of the rules, made him ineligable. He speaks perfect english, and spent the entire season practicing with the Kentucky team. There's no doubt that whomever drafts him will have him on their team next season. There's no doubt that he's a highly skilled big man, that can play very efficiently away from the basket, but also loves to bang under the basket. He's an excellent rebounder, and is a strong dude.
 
Here's me being optimistic post-lottery:

1. Cleveland picks Kyrie Irving. They could go Derrick Williams here, but I think they've got Irving #1 on their board right now and Williams will really have to impress to displace him. It's also interesting to me that Irving attended the lottery and was interviewed on-camera right after the results were announced. Starting from scratch as they are, they need a PG more than they need another wing scorer.

2. Minnesota picks Derrick Williams. Kahn has shown in the past that he doesn't rule out any position regardless of the talent he already has on the roster (or stashed overseas as the case may be). Williams is clearly a top 2 talent in this draft.

3. Utah could go in a number of directions. I'm not all that high on Kemba Walker, but I've seen him slotted here on some mock drafts. I don't think they're all that enamored of Devin Harris right now and Walker just led his ragtag team to an NCAA championship which usually plays surprisingly well around draft time. I don't think they want to take a project big-man, and Walker looks NBA ready so I'll put him here. Again, being optimistic.

4. Cleveland again. Uggh. Or maybe this works in our favor. I don't think they pull a Kahn and take 2 point guards. Gilbert's not a very good GM, but I don't think he's that dumb. I'm guessing they go Enes Kanter here and sell their fans on a bright future with the best PG and C prospects in the draft.

5. Toronto resides here and they love their international players. As luck would have it, three of the best players remaining on most mock-drafts are international players -- Biyombo, Vesely, and Jonas V (however you spell it). Knight looks like a no-brainer pick at this spot but they just pulled off a trade for Bayless who was killing it down the stretch (look it up -- just killing it) so you've got to think they're happy with Bayless, Barbosa, and DeRozan as building blocks. Furthermore the cupboard is bare at the SF position and Bargnani is the worst rebounding big-man in the league. Adding it all up, I think they pick one of the international players. I'll go with Bismack Biyombo as the defensive yin to Bargnani's yang -- or is it the other way around?

6. John Wall, err, I mean Washington has the number 6 spot. I think you see where I'm going here. The 2 point guard conundrum. Do they pick Brandon Knight and try to play him at SG? Bring him off the bench as a Bobby Jackson type 6th man? Stash him on ice in case of career-ending injury and/or legal issues? I've got a bit of an inside track on the Wizards because one of my fellow basketball-junkie friends is from DC. They think they got a steal when they traded Hinrich to Atlanta for Jordan Crawford and a short Mike Bibby cameo. He took over the starting spot when Nick Young went down and did his best Marcus Thornton impression. Oh yeah and he also had two double-digit assist games in the last 3 weeks of the season. And he (famously) dunked on Lebron James and Wizards fans' hate for Lebron James is second only to Cleveland's.

So, what I'm trying to say here is that Brandon Knight makes sense from a talent perspective but does not fit their roster at all. Best player available is nice in theory, but GMs tend to overthink this. Their forwards right now are Blatche, Jianlian, and the ghost of Rashard Lewis. They also have a young big guy from last year's draft, Kevin Seraphin, and unrestricted free agents in Mo Evans (remember him?) and Josh Howard. So the PF position is all potential with little results and the SF position is a disaster. Vesely, Jonas V, Leonard, Hamilton are all options and the euros at least are projected in this range. They could trade the pick, and I'm sure they'll at least shop it around, but in the end I think they find no offers worth taking and they bite the bullet and go for long-term potential with either Vesely or Valanciunas. Which one doesn't matter to me because...

7. The Sacramento Kings select Brandon Knight! For the second year in a row we end up getting the guy I wanted anyway despite David Stern rigging the lott.... despite our terminally bad luck with the draft lottery. Keep hope alive my friends! Keep hope alive!
 
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