Is Reggie Evans Available

sactown_draftpick said:
u kno y he only had round 23 mins a game? cause hes always in foul trouble!!

sactown_draftpick said:
may b cause he seees limited action (cause hes always in foul trouble, according to your post above) thts y he not realy up there in fouls (per game)!! how many mins brad avg a game ? bet is about 15 mins more thn evans

So he can't be top 50 in fouls per game because he see's limited minutes because he gets in foul trouble?
 
sactown_draftpick said:
nah kid bth of thm is foul machines!! but since we was talking bout evans i jus left fortson out. i think is tht they both had money on the side to see who could pick up fouls the fastest lmao.

Nah kid (...), Reggie's never had that reputation or talked about a lot as a problem/weakness of his.
 
Bricklayer said:
Of course I'd want him -- think for once I'd like to have the OTHER team complaining about how WE were playing too rough rather than the other way around.

Dude, I'm on board now after you just said that. Could you imagine Bonzi and Reggie out there busting heads. NICE! Two rough and tough guys right there.
 
Reggie Evans is a great rebounder, but I'm sure Nate McMillan had something to do with getting the most out of him. Under Adelman, it's a guarantee that Evans will not be as good.
 
King4Life said:
Reggie Evans is a great rebounder, but I'm sure Nate McMillan had something to do with getting the most out of him. Under Adelman, it's a guarantee that Evans will not be as good.

You have got to be kidding. If you think that Nate got Reggie to the level he's at now then name another player that he did that for. Whereas with Adelman look at how many players have come through Sac and had their best years here. There are too many guys that have had their best years under Adelman to mention whereas the same cannot be said for Nate.
 
Hmm with that being the only attribute Evans has. Couldn't we just sign some joe smoe 7 footer to come in and lay the wood on ppl. Evans can't shoot he has not post game and can barely make an open layup. sure he can rebound but so can Kenny Thomas. I have figured out any PF in our system is going to get around 8 or 9 a game. Evans has no shot blocking ability and is only 1 inch taller than KT that is the width of you thumb. So like i said if all we want is a banger I can imgine you could sign anybody that has no other skills like evans they will be happy to bang around ppl for a check.
 
Evans also has the attributes of playing dirty and hustling.

I'm sure he's doing something over the summer with his offense, and if he came here he could work with the staff on it too.
 
He may only be one inch taller than KT, but the wing span difference is considerable if I recall.

For far too long the Kings have tried to fill the roster with rennaissance men, guys who are prolific in more than one area. I think if we could have someone like Evans on the bench for some quality minutes, it could be a very good thing.

If he grabs 8-10 boards that would otherwise have given our opponents second- or third-chance points, he would earn his check almost immediately.
 
Reggie Evans is the best rebounder in the NBA today. It doesn't matter how short he is...the bottom line is that the guy rebounds like an animal. Per 48 min. last year he averaged nearly 19 boards per game and in the history of the NBA only one other player has rebounded a higher percentage of opponents missed shots (Dennis Rodman). I don't care that he's only one inch taller than KT because he plays like he's 4 inches taller than him. The Kings have too many jump shooting guys on the front line and Reggie would give the team something they desperately lack up front, which is rebounding and some toughness. Think about it...the more rebounds the team gets, the less opportunities the other team gets and the less points they get. His shot blocking or lack thereof is about non-existent, but he's such a phenominal rebounder that to me it's not that big of a deal. I would rather have a rebounder like Reggie than a shot blocker like Theo Ratliff.
 
Hell he and Rodman had to be good at rebounding because they can't do anything else. I bet if you tell Brad Miller, ok Brad we don't want you to shoot or pass the ball or block shots you just sit there and go after the ball on offense and defense and don't worry about playing within the offense then Brad would be averaging 13 reb a game. Do none of you notice that all the guys with the exceptiong of KG and TD that have these high rebounds and blocked shots have nothing else to offer that comes from not concentrating on anything else. If thats the case get Archibald from camp and tell him to act like Reggie Evans and just consatantly go after the ball and we will give you a check.
 
Rodman was a good defender, hustler, and played dirty. All come with Evans but the good defense. Then again that's because I just don't really know. :)

We have and will have plenty of scoring on the roster.
 
King4Life said:
Reggie Evans is a great rebounder, but I'm sure Nate McMillan had something to do with getting the most out of him. Under Adelman, it's a guarantee that Evans will not be as good.
Adelman could actually get Reggie to score, Reggie COULD, emphasis on could, be a force.
 
Entity said:
Hmm with that being the only attribute Evans has. Couldn't we just sign some joe smoe 7 footer to come in and lay the wood on ppl. Evans can't shoot he has not post game and can barely make an open layup. sure he can rebound but so can Kenny Thomas. I have figured out any PF in our system is going to get around 8 or 9 a game. Evans has no shot blocking ability and is only 1 inch taller than KT that is the width of you thumb. So like i said if all we want is a banger I can imgine you could sign anybody that has no other skills like evans they will be happy to bang around ppl for a check.

So that's the solution to rebounding. And to think that after 70+ years of people playing basketball you have broken the code to what makes a good rebounder. And I thought that it had to do with someone's talent level when it really has nothing to do with that at all. If you're big and don't care about scoring then you can be a great rebounder.
 
Entity said:
Hell he and Rodman had to be good at rebounding because they can't do anything else. I bet if you tell Brad Miller, ok Brad we don't want you to shoot or pass the ball or block shots you just sit there and go after the ball on offense and defense and don't worry about playing within the offense then Brad would be averaging 13 reb a game. Do none of you notice that all the guys with the exceptiong of KG and TD that have these high rebounds and blocked shots have nothing else to offer that comes from not concentrating on anything else. If thats the case get Archibald from camp and tell him to act like Reggie Evans and just consatantly go after the ball and we will give you a check.

Very true, and some very good points. Although I think Evans is a special case b/c he puts a lot of effort into what he does. You can tell when he is playing that he is leaving it all out there on the floor. He isn't some schmoe that just rebounds the ball, he is a good energy guy.
 
Entity said:
Hell he and Rodman had to be good at rebounding because they can't do anything else. I bet if you tell Brad Miller, ok Brad we don't want you to shoot or pass the ball or block shots you just sit there and go after the ball on offense and defense and don't worry about playing within the offense then Brad would be averaging 13 reb a game. Do none of you notice that all the guys with the exceptiong of KG and TD that have these high rebounds and blocked shots have nothing else to offer that comes from not concentrating on anything else. If thats the case get Archibald from camp and tell him to act like Reggie Evans and just consatantly go after the ball and we will give you a check.
Thank you!!!!!

Finally someone with some common sense. People here make it sound like rebounding is some sort of art and you either have it or not. Rebounding is about effort. Reggie Evans offers NOTHING else so he smartly focuses on rebounding. Skinner could be just as good a rebounder as Evans.

People like Evans and want him on this team but truth is he is no better than Skinner. In fact Skinner is more polished and offers a bit more than Evans. I am sure if you told Skinner, go out there and just rebound, don't do anything else, he would have just as good numbers as Evans.
 
Čarolija said:
Thank you!!!!!

Finally someone with some common sense. People here make it sound like rebounding is some sort of art and you either have it or not. Rebounding is about effort. Reggie Evans offers NOTHING else so he smartly focuses on rebounding. Skinner could be just as good a rebounder as Evans.

People like Evans and want him on this team but truth is he is no better than Skinner. In fact Skinner is more polished and offers a bit more than Evans. I am sure if you told Skinner, go out there and just rebound, don't do anything else, he would have just as good numbers as Evans.


Somehow Sacto fans have become very very confused along the way, and somewhere we have decided the only talent somebody can have is being able to shoot or not. EVERYTHING else is just a matter of working hard. And you know what? That's just not how competitive basketball, or any competitive sport for that matter, works.

Rebounding DOES require hard work. Requires toughness. But a) those attributes are NOT equally distributed to every player; and b) there is a TREMENDOUS amount of talent, skill, timing, coordination, quickness etc. etc. involved as well. Did anybody else here but me actually watch Dennis Rodman play? A goddamn jumping jack. Not only first leap, but a second and third leap as quick as I've ever seen from ANY player at any position. And tough of course. And relentless. And with a motor that never stopped. And with a remarkable ability (which I share to a lesser degree BTW) to know where the ball was coming off the glass a half step quicker than his opponent. Reggie Evans does not have those hops, but he's got the rest of it. And there is NOT a single King who could come even close to that production if you locked them in a gym for a year and had them do nothing else. Rebounding is hard work. It separates the men from the boys. But as with any other talent, the best are just more gifted than the rest of us, whether it be physically or mentally.
 
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Diabeticwonder said:
You have got to be kidding. If you think that Nate got Reggie to the level he's at now then name another player that he did that for. Whereas with Adelman look at how many players have come through Sac and had their best years here. There are too many guys that have had their best years under Adelman to mention whereas the same cannot be said for Nate.

Most of the guys under Adelman had increased their numbers like scoring and assists. But Nate McMillan is a hard nosed coach who stresses defense and tough/physical play. I'm all for getting Evans, but with a better contract and alongside softer players and a softer coach, his numbers will drop in my view.
 
King4Life said:
Most of the guys under Adelman had increased their numbers like scoring and assists. But Nate McMillan is a hard nosed coach who stresses defense and tough/physical play. I'm all for getting Evans, but with a better contract and alongside softer players and a softer coach, his numbers will drop in my view.
That really hasn't proven true of the guys we have picked up over the years. And in particular with a hard nosed mofo like Evans, he's pretty self-propelled. Furthermore, you are never going to CHANGE the softness of the team unless you keep on importing tough guys until the team's mentality/personality changes with the personnel.
 
Bricklayer said:
That really hasn't proven true of the guys we have picked up over the years. And in particular with a hard nosed mofo like Evans, he's pretty self-propelled. Furthermore, you are never going to CHANGE the softness of the team unless you keep on importing tough guys until the team's mentality/personality changes with the personnel.

Yeah, even if it's true that we make guys soft, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get tougher. Keep adding tough guys who are known for their work ethic and sooner or later we'll have an environment where guys work hard and play hard.
 
Evans doesn't just bring rebounding, he brings dirty play, hustle, and toughness as a whole. Those are valuable attributes.
 
Bricklayer said:
Somehow Sacto fans have become very very confused along the way, and somewhere we have decided the only talent somebody can have is being able to shoot or not. EVERYTHING else is just a matter of working hard. And you know what? That's just not how competitive basketball, or any competitive sport for that matter, works.

Rebounding DOES require hard work. Requires toughness. But a) those attributes are NOT equally distributed to every player; and b) there is a TREMENDOUS amount of talent, skill, timing, coordination, quickness etc. etc. involved as well. Did anybody else here but me actually watch Dennis Rodman play? A goddamn jumping jack. Not only first leap, but a second and third leap as quick as I've ever seen from ANY player at any position. And tough of course. And relentless. And with a motor that never stopped. And with a remarkable ability (which I share to a lesser degree BTW) to know where the ball was coming off the glass a half step quicker than his opponent. Reggie Evans does not have those hops, but he's got the rest of it. And there is NOT a single King who could come even close to that production if you locked them in a gym for a year and had them do nothing else. Rebounding is hard work. It separates the men from the boys. But as with any other talent, the best are just more gifted than the rest of us, whether it be physically or mentally.

Well put. Sure, rebounding demands effort, but to be a good rebounder you have to have talent. You can't tell me that when a shot goes up Reggie Evans solely puts more effort and heart into getting the rebound than anyone else on the court. He has an innate ability to get to the ball, which isn't something that you can just get if you solely think about rebounding. There is no way that you can just take any big guy and tell him to only rebound and do nothing else and he then produce like Reggie.
 
Rebounding is as much about position as anything else and Evans is uncanny at getting into position. His innate ability to judge the angle of deflection off the rim or board allows him to pick a spot to get to and his strength allows him to get there. And, yes, Kenny Thomas boards well but when matched against Evans last year it was WHEN Evans got his rebounds that made a big difference. On key possessions it seemed like he was always the one getting the rebound instead of Thomas or whoever we had in there...the timing of when you do what you're paid to do is critical.
 
Čarolija said:
Thank you!!!!!

Finally someone with some common sense. People here make it sound like rebounding is some sort of art and you either have it or not. Rebounding is about effort. Reggie Evans offers NOTHING else so he smartly focuses on rebounding. Skinner could be just as good a rebounder as Evans.

People like Evans and want him on this team but truth is he is no better than Skinner. In fact Skinner is more polished and offers a bit more than Evans. I am sure if you told Skinner, go out there and just rebound, don't do anything else, he would have just as good numbers as Evans.

Skinner is also a bit taller (not much) and has 20 pounds on Evans. While playing for the Kings last year, Skinner only averaged less than one rebound less than Evans and scored a couple more points. Skinner was also injured for most of his stint with the Kings last year. I'm hoping we keep him. I'd take him over Evans any day.
 
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