Is Brockman the new Pollard?

[bajaden]

He's a bit shorter of course and perhaps not quite as nutty, but he's certainly has the same kind of appeal. Here's a small article by Amick and some video.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/2009/09/thats-mr-jon-br.html

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

I see some similarities for sure with the rebounding and hustle play, but that's about the extent of it. Pollard was way more athletic and actually blocked shots extremely well in Kansas, and I've questioned whether Brockman's mind over physical tools defensive mentality would actually translate (even to a slight degree) in the NBA. Most of all, Pollard was able to get easy baskets because our overall team was highly unselfish, and with our team having issues in terms of sharing the ball currently I'm not sure if Brockman will become a detriment offensively. To add that with potential defensive problems in our currently rebuilding team might present more problems; while we sorely do need the rebounding, it's preferred with a tall frame and a shotblocker's mentality.

 

[TONYTOUCH]

Don't take this the wrong way, because I am also super enthusiastic about this season and seeing the youngsters. But comparing this kid with 0 NBA minutes logged to Scott Pollard is crazy. We might see Brockman, sparingly in garbage time at the beginning of the season until he shows he can play like Pollard. Scotty on the other hand, we knew what we were going to get from him day 1. We knew he was going to work harder than anyone else on the court. (besides maybe bjax or john barry) So yeah, I definitely hope he does "develop" into a Scott Pollard. Pollard was also close to 7 feet tall and had alot more recognition coming out of college.

 

[bajaden]

Don't take this the wrong way, because I am also super enthusiastic about this season and seeing the youngsters. But comparing this kid with 0 NBA minutes logged to Scott Pollard is crazy. We might see Brockman, sparingly in garbage time at the beginning of the season until he shows he can play like Pollard. Scotty on the other hand, we knew what we were going to get from him day 1. We knew he was going to work harder than anyone else on the court. (besides maybe bjax or john barry) So yeah, I definitely hope he does "develop" into a Scott Pollard. Pollard was also close to 7 feet tall and had alot more recognition coming out of college.

I'am absolutely amazed at how people completely misunderstand the point of my post. I wasn't comparing them as players on the floor. One is a 6'7" PF and other was 6'11" Center.. I was comparing their personalities. Their wackiness. Although their style of play is similar as neither one would hurt you from the outside.

 

[bajaden]

I see some similarities for sure with the rebounding and hustle play, but that's about the extent of it. Pollard was way more athletic and actually blocked shots extremely well in Kansas, and I've questioned whether Brockman's mind over physical tools defensive mentality would actually translate (even to a slight degree) in the NBA. Most of all, Pollard was able to get easy baskets because our overall team was highly unselfish, and with our team having issues in terms of sharing the ball currently I'm not sure if Brockman will become a detriment offensively. To add that with potential defensive problems in our currently rebuilding team might present more problems; while we sorely do need the rebounding, it's preferred with a tall frame and a shotblocker's mentality.

I'm going to disagree on several points. Number one, I don't think that Pollard ever overwhelmed anyone with his athleticism. He was a smart player and knew position on the court. But I'll tell you right now, he wasn't as physcial a player as Brockman. Brockman may not be a shotblocker, but you won't move him off the block. He'll hold his position against anyone. Brockman also has a more refined offensive game than Pollard did coming out of college. His problem is that it all around the basket, and I'm not sure how that will translate when he's in against the big boys. He's also more athletic than you think, and he runs the floor better than you might think.

I've watched him play as much as any other player I've seen, and all I know is that when you play against him, you hate him. I watched him out hustle and out play Brook Lopez. I'll be stunned if he doesn't rebound just as well as he did in college. All he needs is time on the floor and therein could be the problem.

 

[CruzDude]

Brockman is quite a different player than Pollard, a PF vs. a C for starters. Pollard was a big body, he banged with the best of them and rebounded. But thats about it. Fast of foot he was not.

Brock on the other hand can run the floor with the best of them and is an instinctive rebounder rather than having the bulk to move anyone around. He knows where to be and and how to get rebounds. But he too can bang with the best of them and he is quicker than Pollard was.

Personally, Brockman is a really nice guy and could well be the other ladies favorite (along with Omri). So was Pollard a great guy, nuts at times for sure, but a down-to-earth guy. Brockman can jump and move better than Pollard. He plays above the rim unlike K9.

No, Brockman is not the new Pollard. And he can block shots too.

 

[VF21]

He's a bit shorter of course and perhaps not quite as nutty, but he's certainly has the same kind of appeal.

I know several people who have made the same observation. I think he's going to do a lot to take us back, at least in morale-related ways, to the days of old.

AND NO...I'm not saying Brockman is going to lead us to the playoffs or WCF. (I figured I'd better throw that in before someone misunderstands my comments, too. )

 

[Capt. Factorial]

No, Brockman is not the new Pollard. And he can block shots too.

Umm, Brockman had a grand total of 18 blocked shots in 131 college games (four full years). In comparison, Tyreke Evans had 29 blocked shots in a single season as a point guard.

I would not count on Jon Brockman to be blocking a lot of shots.

 

[VF21]

Umm, Brockman had a grand total of 18 blocked shots in 131 college games (four full years). In comparison, Tyreke Evans had 29 blocked shots in a single season as a point guard.

I would not count on Jon Brockman to be blocking a lot of shots.

Especially not from the bench.

The only person to ever give a Kings player on the bench credit (well, actually blame would be the better word) for anything was Violet Palmer.

 

[Prince_XY]

He's a bit shorter of course and perhaps not quite as nutty, but he's certainly has the same kind of appeal. Here's a small article by Amick and some video.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/2009/09/thats-mr-jon-br.html

I agree 100%.

Both are dispensable and both have so many deficiencies in terms of skill, and yet the type of players you want to see playing in times nothing seems to work.

Hardworking guys.

 

[SacTownKid]

There will never be another Pollard!!!! He's one of a kind.

 

[VF21]

STK - So any idea if this is the season you come back from being on strike?

 

[Kingster]

Umm, Brockman had a grand total of 18 blocked shots in 131 college games (four full years). In comparison, Tyreke Evans had 29 blocked shots in a single season as a point guard.

I would not count on Jon Brockman to be blocking a lot of shots.

Everybody's been missing it with Tyreke. He's not a point guard, he's not a two guard. He's a power forward!

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

I've always made the comparison of Brockman being a Mark Olberding type of player. A real bruiser who can block shots, rebound and bring tons of heart, much like Olberding did for the 'Bruise Brothers' when he played with the Spurs back in the early 80's.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

 

[SacTownKid]

STK - So any idea if this is the season you come back from being on strike?

Not until they start playing that Justin Williams kid!

 

[CruzDude]

Umm, Brockman had a grand total of 18 blocked shots in 131 college games (four full years). In comparison, Tyreke Evans had 29 blocked shots in a single season as a point guard.

I would not count on Jon Brockman to be blocking a lot of shots.

In the last two games I saw with him at vegas summer league he blocked at least 4 shots, a tougher environment than Pac-10 ball for sure. That was source of my comment.

 

[Bricklayer]

I've always made the comparison of Brockman being a Mark Olberding type of player. A real bruiser who can block shots, rebound and bring tons of heart, much like Olberding did for the 'Bruise Brothers' when he played with the Spurs back in the early 80's.

Okay, one thing -- he can NOT block shots. At all. And neither could Olberding.

Otherwise such a comparison might be more apt than the one to Pollard, who was a full sized F/C, and a wacky one at that.

 

[NME]

Otherwise such a comparison might be more apt than the one to Pollard, who was a full sized F/C, and a wacky one at that.

Height-wise, perhaps the next Randy Allen (who actually started several games for us at center)?

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Okay, one thing -- he can NOT block shots. At all. And neither could Olberding.

Otherwise such a comparison might be more apt than the one to Pollard, who was a full sized F/C, and a wacky one at that.

Okay, you are correct on the blocked shot thing for sure, now that I remember back a bit...but he did hustle, rebound, throw elbows and add alot of muscle back in the day(and he put the ball in the basket a few times too)...and I do see Mr. Brockman helping out in those ways, except for the putting the ball in the basket thing.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Height-wise, perhaps the next Randy Allen (who actually started several games for us at center)?

I sure HOPE he amounts to a little more than Randy Allen...plus Allen was more of a shooter than anything else.

 

[bajaden]

Ok, lets have a reality check here. I love Pollard as much as the next guy, and, once again, I was not comparing Pollard and Brockman as players persay, but as personalities. However, since people feel it necessary to bring up the player comparisons lets look at Pollard.

He never played in 82 games in a season. His best three years in the league were, shockingly with the Kings in 1999, 2000, and 2001. Where he played in 76, 77, and 80 games. He averaged 46 games per season for his career. He averaged 4.4 PPG, 4.6 RPG, and 0.69 blocks per game for his career. He was a decent defensive player that could hold position in the post and would give you 5 hard fouls every game if allowed.

He was beloved more for his personality, along with toughness on the court than anything else, and was a perfect fit on the team we had then. This is not an attempt to belittle, or diminish Pollards contributions to the Kings while he was here. But lets keep a perspective on who he was as a player. In truth, if Brockman can rebound half as well as he did in college, he'll be a better rebounder than Pollard. And, it wouldn't surprise me if he averages more blocks a game than Pollard did, because Pollard wasn't much of a shot blocker.

Pollard took toughness, determination, and a little talent and turned it into a career. He was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time with the Kings. I love the guy and hope that he returns to the Kings in some capacity, especially in the media.