If you were the Kings GM what trades would you make?

[Bballkingsrock]

This is what I would do:

Sacramento recieves:

Shaq
Dwanye Wade
Eddie Jones

Miami recieves:

Peja
Mike Bibby
Brad Miller
Bobby Jackson
1 future round pick

I call this the trade deal of the century!!!
Dont need no explanation for that!

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Wow, um...all I can say to THAT idea is wow....eh...nevermind.*L*

 

[VF21]

This is what I would do:

Sacramento recieves:

Shaq
Dwanye Wade
Eddie Jones

Miami recieves:

Peja
Mike Bibby
Brad Miller
Bobby Jackson
1 future round pick

I call this the trade deal of the century!!!
Dont need no explanation for that!

The dumbest trade of the century if your name is Miami. (And did you even check the $$$$?)

Shaq is not going anywhere. He has everything he wants in Miami. And personally I think it's heresy to even suggest he come to Sacramento. That's not a trade; that's simply swapping franchises. And it stinks IMHO.

 

[VF21]

You know me, Catalyst. I'm all for rewarding loyalty, etc. BUT Bobby was the one who first broached the idea of leaving Sacramento if he could get a starting position and/or more money for his final contract.

You asked who I'd consider giving up. As much as I like Bobby, I LOVE the idea of Paul Pierce in a Kings uniform. And to give up an arguably discontented Pedja AND an injured Bobby to get him? Hey, make that phone call, tell Kevin McHale I still love him and sign that contract!!!

 

[Bricklayer]

Trading away Tag without getting a replacement center makes no sense. We get no better where we need to and lose any hope we might have of defensive presence.

Peja generally for Pierce? Sure.

Peja AND Bobby for Pierce? No. Then we have no 6th man and again get no better. People underestimate just how special Bobby is when healthy. I posted this is in his injury thread, but his per 48min numbers look like Tracy McGrady's (or Paul Pierce's for that matter). He actually provides us with MORE scoring punch than Peja.

The Peja and Doug for Marion and Johnson rumor was one of the more interesting ones over the summer, and could have really helped us IMHO. Given us an excellent young multi-talented OG -- kind of a younger, better Doug (without the shutdown defense) and a SF that could have realy helped us with our weaknesses (defense, rebounding). But its obviously gone now I would think, even if it ever was there in the first place.

Certainly not Bobby for a guy like Pietrus. Good lord. Bobby's a 20ppg starter (if he started).

Baron Davis? Eh...I'll pass. Bad attitude, fundamentally unsound. Does not get it. Doesn't stay in shape. Always hurt. I was much higher on him a few yearas ago, but right now he looks like just another selfish and dumb player mostly just interested in chucking up low percentage shots.

 

[PacMan]

Trading away Tag without getting a replacement center makes no sense. We get no better where we need to and lose any hope we might have of defensive presence.

Peja generally for Pierce? Sure.

Peja AND Bobby for Pierce? No. Then we have no 6th man and again get no better. People underestimate just how special Bobby is when healthy. I posted this is in his injury thread, but his per 48min numbers look like Tracy McGrady's (or Paul Pierce's for that matter). He actually provides us with MORE scoring punch than Peja.

The Peja and Doug for Marion and Johnson rumor was one of the more interesting ones over the summer, and could have really helped us IMHO. Given us an excellent young multi-talented OG -- kind of a younger, better Doug (without the shutdown defense) and a SF that could have realy helped us with our weaknesses (defense, rebounding). But its obviously gone now I would think, even if it ever was there in the first place.

Certainly not Bobby for a guy like Pietrus. Good lord. Bobby's a 20ppg starter (if he started).

Baron Davis? Eh...I'll pass. Bad attitude, fundamentally unsound. Does not get it. Doesn't stay in shape. Always hurt. I was much higher on him a few yearas ago, but right now he looks like just another selfish and dumb player mostly just interested in chucking up low percentage shots.

Well, Taking into account of the recent injury to Bjax, I would make the deal. Paul Pierce would help right away and I have this feeling that Evans will do an adequate job filling in for Bjax.

 

[Bricklayer]

Well, Taking into account of the recent injury to Bjax, I would make the deal. Paul Pierce would help right away and I have this feeling that Evans will do an adequate job filling in for Bjax.

Unless I am missing something Bobby is still susposed to be back for the playoffs, unless the idea is to make a trade to win a few more regular season games? And even that's a maybe -- Pierce is a better more versatile all around player than Peja, but there is no guarantee he could or would play with the discipline our system requires.

Mo is a nice young player...that's not even on the same planet as Bobby at this early stage. Watch his offense -- its all created by other players or his hustle. He can't create his own shot. HUGE difference. He also can't play any PG at all.

 

[Bricklayer]

Well..this one flies in the face of everything I say we need/should do -- trading AWAY star power, nonetheless:

Philadelphia recieves:
Peja Stojakovic
Erik Daniels

Sacramento recieves:
Kyle Korver
Andre Iguodala
Samuel Dalembert
Kevin Ollie

Korver replaces Peja. Less talented of course. But fills the same role.
Iguodala IS Doug Christie, only younger. People keep on mentioning Pietrus but Pietrus is a different type of player. Iguodala on the other hand plays the same complete game as Doug, same lockdown defense, disrupts passing lanes and gets steals, good passer. Similar body, and high energy. Only drawback = not a shooter (just like Doug). Heir apparent.
Dalembert is what we claim we always want -- athletic long shotblocker/rebounder, complete with bad hands, no passing or shooting ability.

Peja is the second star Philly has been searching for, and a guy who might be able to play with Iverson since he doesn't need the ball until its time to shoot.

Ollie and Daniels are just salary throwins to make it work (Ollie also has a bad contract, so its extra incentive for Philly). Ollie also becomes our emergency 3rd PG. Might have to bump Daniels to Evans to encourage Philly.


We take Peja's star power out for a spin and steal Philly's youth. Correct our issues, and keep the window pinned open. But we lose star power ourselves. Korver has to be able to get 15ppg for us to make it worthwhile.

BTW, for various reasons I think there is less than a 1 in 1,000,000 chance this trade ever happens, but what the hell, why not.

Philadelphia trades:
PG Kevin Ollie(2.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 8.7 minutes)
SG Andre Iguodala(8.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.4 apg in 31.0 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert(5.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 22.4 minutes)
SF Kyle Korver(11.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.1 apg in 30.4 minutes)
Philadelphia receives:
SF Erik Daniels(0.7 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 4.0 minutes)
SF Peja Stojakovic(20.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.7 apg in 39.4 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -6.4 ppg, -11.5 rpg, and -4.1 apg.

Sacramento trades:
SF Erik Daniels(0.7 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 4.0 minutes)
SF Peja Stojakovic(20.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.7 apg in 39.4 minutes)
Sacramento receives:
PG Kevin Ollie(2.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 8.7 minutes)
SG Andre Iguodala(8.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.4 apg in 31.0 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert(5.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 22.4 minutes)
SF Kyle Korver(11.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.1 apg in 30.4 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +6.4 ppg, +11.5 rpg, and +4.1 apg.
TRADE ACCEPTED

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

....


Well... I don't hate the sound of it...

 

[BLNINJA #81]

Finally a reasonable trade idea...

 

[Evenstar]

NICE brick!!!!!

i was thinking about that last night kinda, when watching the highlights, about peja on the 76ers. dalembert would be AWESOME!!!

man *if* peja has a problem with webber in any way, it would be 10X worse with AI

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Just post some interesting, realisitic trade scenarios.

Here's one:

Sac trades:
Kevin Martin
Mike Bibby


New Orleans trades:
Baron Davis


Hornets would never go for it, but the salaries work.

OMG!!! NOOO!!!! baron is injury prone (BAD BACK!)

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Here is a Bobby for Marko Jaric and a conditional pick. This might be a possiblity if the Clippers were not going to resign Marko this off season and that they needed a person to fill in for cheap at PG for another couple of years until Saun Livingston is ready. I think if this was offered at trading deadline I think Petrie would bite. But it would also depends on how the team is playing at time.

I posted this in another thread. This is a realistic trade in my opinion. It would provide a person who could fit in as a PG SG and SF which would solve some problems in depth since he can cover the three named positions. He would bring defensive ability and also handling ,playmaking and intensitity.

bobby for shaun livingston
won't happen but your trade for bobby for marko + pick (clips would jump on that)

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Sac trades:
Bobby Jackson

for

GSW:
Mickael Pietrus
Calbert Cheaney

Cheany is pretty solid when I have seen him play this season, good solid backup for Peja. Plus I threw in Pietrus b/c he has been mentioned around here before. Warriors probably wouldn't do it though. Fisher and Claxton playing well, plus Bobbys' hurt.

ugh.... no way
bobby has alot more value than dumping him to gsw for pietrus and cheaney
maybe pietrus + 1st rounder

 

[Big Cuz 15]

I'd personally do this one.

Boston receives:
Peja Stojakovic
Greg Ostertag

Sacramento receives:
Paul Pierce

Lord knows if Boston would agree to this deal or not, but I'd like to see Peja get his wish and be shipped out of Sacramento. I really don't want a player here that doesn't want to be here.

People say Peja hasn't said anything more about his trade demand, but he also hasn't rescinded it. Peja is a class act, that much is obvious, and talking about something like a trade demand during the season is a distraction and usually doesn't help the team.

I think come again this offseason, Peja will be right back asking for a trade. I say give him his wish and give us someone great in return for him. Pierce is a well-known playoff performer who's just a very gifted player.

The problem would be convincing Boston to part with him for Peja.

Not that Pierce is the answer to all of our problems, but I think he'd be a VERY happy guy to play for a winning franchise on a team loaded with talent where he'll get plenty of chances to show what he's capable of.

i'd pull the trigger on that one, but i do agree w/ vf21 we do need tags presence in the paint (HARD FOULS)
isn't pierce like 6'7 and a shooting guard? but.. plays sf

 

[Big Cuz 15]

This is what I would do:

Sacramento recieves:

Shaq
Dwanye Wade
Eddie Jones

Miami recieves:

Peja
Mike Bibby
Brad Miller
Bobby Jackson
1 future round pick


I call this the trade deal of the century!!!
Dont need no explanation for that!

replace brad w/ christina webber
and PULL THE TRIGGER

 

[Big Cuz 15]

brick i didn't agree with your post at first but thinking of it.... the change might be good for us since we are getting a young iguodala. it's a BOLD move brick. your putting your head on the cutting board for crticism but i like it

Well..this one flies in the face of everything I say we need/should do -- trading AWAY star power, nonetheless:

Philadelphia recieves:
Peja Stojakovic
Erik Daniels

Sacramento recieves:
Kyle Korver
Andre Iguodala
Samuel Dalembert
Kevin Ollie

Korver replaces Peja. Less talented of course. But fills the same role.
Iguodala IS Doug Christie, only younger. People keep on mentioning Pietrus but Pietrus is a different type of player. Iguodala on the other hand plays the same complete game as Doug, same lockdown defense, disrupts passing lanes and gets steals, good passer. Similar body, and high energy. Only drawback = not a shooter (just like Doug). Heir apparent.
Dalembert is what we claim we always want -- athletic long shotblocker/rebounder, complete with bad hands, no passing or shooting ability.

Peja is the second star Philly has been searching for, and a guy who might be able to play with Iverson since he doesn't need the ball until its time to shoot.

Ollie and Daniels are just salary throwins to make it work (Ollie also has a bad contract, so its extra incentive for Philly). Ollie also becomes our emergency 3rd PG. Might have to bump Daniels to Evans to encourage Philly.


We take Peja's star power out for a spin and steal Philly's youth. Correct our issues, and keep the window pinned open. But we lose star power ourselves. Korver has to be able to get 15ppg for us to make it worthwhile.

BTW, for various reasons I think there is less than a 1 in 1,000,000 chance this trade ever happens, but what the hell, why not.

Philadelphia trades:
PG Kevin Ollie(2.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 8.7 minutes)
SG Andre Iguodala(8.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.4 apg in 31.0 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert(5.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 22.4 minutes)
SF Kyle Korver(11.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.1 apg in 30.4 minutes)
Philadelphia receives:
SF Erik Daniels(0.7 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 4.0 minutes)
SF Peja Stojakovic(20.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.7 apg in 39.4 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -6.4 ppg, -11.5 rpg, and -4.1 apg.

Sacramento trades:
SF Erik Daniels(0.7 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.2 apg in 4.0 minutes)
SF Peja Stojakovic(20.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.7 apg in 39.4 minutes)
Sacramento receives:
PG Kevin Ollie(2.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 8.7 minutes)
SG Andre Iguodala(8.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.4 apg in 31.0 minutes)
C Samuel Dalembert(5.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 22.4 minutes)
SF Kyle Korver(11.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.1 apg in 30.4 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +6.4 ppg, +11.5 rpg, and +4.1 apg.
TRADE ACCEPTED

 

[Catalyst]

i'd pull the trigger on that one, but i do agree w/ vf21 we do need tags presence in the paint (HARD FOULS)
isn't pierce like 6'7 and a shooting guard? but.. plays sf

Pierce can play either SF or SG, he's quite capable of running both spots. Probably more of a SF than a SG, but even then, that's debatable.

 

[SacKings384]

Brick... I like that Philly trade... Alot... But I doubt Philly is willing to depart with so much young talent just for Peja.

 

[nAj jAn™]

Well..this one flies in the face of everything I say we need/should do -- trading AWAY star power, nonetheless:

Philadelphia recieves:
Peja Stojakovic
Erik Daniels

Sacramento recieves:
Kyle Korver
Andre Iguodala
Samuel Dalembert
Kevin Ollie

Korver replaces Peja. Less talented of course. But fills the same role.
Iguodala IS Doug Christie, only younger. People keep on mentioning Pietrus but Pietrus is a different type of player. Iguodala on the other hand plays the same complete game as Doug, same lockdown defense, disrupts passing lanes and gets steals, good passer. Similar body, and high energy. Only drawback = not a shooter (just like Doug). Heir apparent.
Dalembert is what we claim we always want -- athletic long shotblocker/rebounder, complete with bad hands, no passing or shooting ability.

Peja is the second star Philly has been searching for, and a guy who might be able to play with Iverson since he doesn't need the ball until its time to shoot.

Ollie and Daniels are just salary throwins to make it work (Ollie also has a bad contract, so its extra incentive for Philly). Ollie also becomes our emergency 3rd PG. Might have to bump Daniels to Evans to encourage Philly.

Memphis recieves:
Pedja Stojakovic, Bobby Jackson, Matt Barnes

Sacramento recieves:
Mike Miller, Earl Watson, Stromile Swift, Shane Battier

Mike Miller replaces Peja. more talented of course than Korver. But fills the same role.

Watson IS Bobby Jackson, only younger. People keep on mentioning Watson so there he is and they are the same type of player. He on the same hand also plays the same complete game as Bobby, same lockdown defense, disrupts passing lanes and always hustle, good shooter. Similar body, and high energy. Only drawback = not a very big scorer but can produce similar stats of Bobby if granted more PT and coach's confidence. A good leaper (not like Bobby). Hustle and energy! Heir apparent.

Swift is what we claim we always want -- athletic long shotblocker/rebounder, complete with good hands, has passing or shooting ability.

Peja is (will be) the star in Memphis (main man, not second to CWeb, I mean Pau)

Pedja has been searching for, and a guy who might be able to play with Gasol since combination of low post and outside threat is a great combo. Great also for J-Will to get his old exciting passing skills back with Pedja in the team..The reunion...

Battier and Barnes are just SF backup throwins to make it work.

Battier becomes our backup SF. Barnes also for Griz. Might have to add Daniels with Barnes to encourage Memphis.

Brick -- Sorry for copying your post...italiced ones are edited...

 

[SacKings384]

Yuck... I really don't like that Memphis trade at all...

 

[nAj jAn™]

hehe.. but I like more the Marion, Johnson trade for pedja and bobby....

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Shane Battier isn't a "throw-in" by any rational standard.

 

[VF21]

nAj jAn - Have you ever checked out www.realGM.com? It's a great way of seeing if your trade ideas would even be feasible...from a monetary point of view.

...

Brick,

INTERESTING idea. It's certainly different than anything I've seen before. AND it's also intriguing because of the potential to see how Pedja and AI would handle sharing the ball.

 

[Bballkingsrock]

Ok guys, I used the site VF said and this is what I found out:

Peja Shawn Marion
Doug for Joe Johnson can be done.

Peja, and Doug for Paul Pierce also can be done.

Two intersting trades. What do u guys think?

 

[nAj jAn™]

I checked the site but why Stromile Swift can't be traded?

Pedja/Bobby and Marion/Johnson trade can't be done!

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

I checked the site but why Stromile Swift can't be traded?

Pedja/Bobby and Marion/Johnson trade can't be done!

Agreed about the Marion/Johnson trade...too bad, I'd almost do that trade for just Johnson, the way he's been playing lately. Been the silent contributer to that team, all the focus is on Amare, Nash, Richardson and Marion...people tend to forget about Joe.

 

[Bricklayer]

I checked the site but why Stromile Swift can't be traded?

Pedja/Bobby and Marion/Johnson trade can't be done!

1) Swift can't be traded because he signed a special one-year deal this summer -- pretty obscure rule I didn't knwo about until I was trying to figure out how we could get him last month.

2) the rumored (at least rumored here) idea for Marion/Johnson was Peja/Christie not Peja/Bobby. Peja/Bobby is a problem because their combined salaries are so small compared to their talent. In any case, hard to imagine Marion/Johnson or almost ANY Suns player being on the block right now given how things are going for them. Generally you have to trade with bad/disappointing teams, or mediocre teams trying to get overe the top, not with division-leaders.

3) Peja/Doug for Paul Pierce was always the most reasonable Pierce rumor. But of course that's two starters for one so Pierce had better really work out if you did somethng like that (if Boston would even want to).

 

[Bballkingsrock]

3) Peja/Doug for Paul Pierce was always the most reasonable Pierce rumor. But of course that's two starters for one so Pierce had better really work out if you did somethng like that (if Boston would even want to).

If we lose both starters I tried Doug and Peja, for Paul Pierce and Jiri Welsch. That works and is a better deal.

 

[Bricklayer]

If we lose both starters I tried Doug and Peja, for Paul Pierce and Jiri Welsch. That works and is a better deal.

Better for us, but no way Boston would do it I think. Welsch is part of their young future.