If the vote is no?

I think we all need to be focusing on making sure it isn't NO. If it is, you'll have nothing but time to figure out what to do.
 
Well it's funny you mention that because I will move if the Kings move. Maybe that's what the NO people are looking to stop, (growth) I dunno, but my situation is relevant to the vote.
 
Then vote "yes" and do your part to ensure that people are informed about the proposal. Make sure the people you know who do support the measure are registered to vote. You could even volunteer to help get them to polling places.
 
Nebs you would move if the Kings left? Did you move here because the came here in '85
 
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i "moved" here when i was 5, well before the kings got here. but honestly, living in a city with a pro sports (NBA/NFL/NHL/MLB) team is something that i consider important enough that after 30+ years in sac, if the kings go i would look to move to another city that can offer the entertainment choices i'm used to.

honestly, charlotte is a pretty tempting place. look at that "small" town and the amazing development & improvements that have been made. NFL and NBA facilities built within just a few years of each other...

sacramento is NOT a hick backa$$ town - no matter what RE Graswich and the Bee would have you believe.
 
Yes, I would leave if the Railyard Project gets turned down. And jeffjcalweb, Charlotte is actually at the top of my list. I've been there several times over the years. :)
 
This is my 1st post and maybe my last if things don't go down. I already lost 50,000 on the value of my home and now if a new arena is not built, no use of buying a home in that area as planned. I am moving to Albuquerque, NM. They don't have a pro team, but I can get a nice home there @ Mesa del Sol, a 13,000 acre new urbanism community next year.
 
Yeah I had a friend that got a new semi custom home for 170,000 in Albuquerque, NM, and that's because there is absolutely NOTHING there.
 
DocHolliday said:
Yeah I had a friend that got a new semi custom home for 170,000 in Albuquerque, NM, and that's because there is absolutely NOTHING there.
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I hope this might change your mind:

Albuquerque's Top Rankings

Albuquerque is consistently receiving top rankings from a variety of sources. Here is a sample of the latest.
Forbes: Best Places for Business and Careers - 1st Place

May 4, 2006 - According to Forbes, Albuquerque has the lowest business cost in the country. This factor, along with an educated population and rising household incomes helped boost our city to the #1 spot for business and careers. Albuquerque climbed up from 5th place last year, beating out cities like Raleigh, Houston, Boise, and Knoxville.
Bizjournals.com: America's Smartest Cities - 10th Place

June 12, 2006 - An analysis of U.S. Census Bureau data done by Bizjournals.com reveals that Albuquerque ranks 10th among communities with the highest concentration of brainpower. The study analyzed the education levels of adults in thousands of communities. Factors that may have helped Albuquerque achieve this ranking are the fact that it's the home for the University of New Mexico and its proximity to Los Alamos National Laboratory .
Worldwide ERC & Primacy Relocation: Best Cities for Families Relocating - 8th Place http://www.cabq.gov/about/offsite.html

June 6, 2006 - In a joint study by Worldwide ERC and Primacy Relocation, Albuquerque ranked 8th among the best cities for relocating families. The study's factors took into consideration commuting, taxes, housing & living costs, temporary housing & storage, support for multi-generational families, and climate.
Kiplinger's: Smart Places to Live - 3rd Place http://www.cabq.gov/about/offsite.html

June 2006 - Albuquerque was ranked #3 by Kiplinger's magazine as one of the "50 smart places to live in the country". The ranking is based upon average home price, reasonable cost of living, great quality of life and access to health care.
AmericanStyle: Top 25 Art Cities - 2nd Place (among mid-sized cities) http://www.cabq.gov/about/offsite.html

June 2006 - AmericanStyle readers voted Albuquerque into the number 2 spot for top mid-sized art cities. Albuquerque's diverse art styles, the galleries along historic Route 66, and the monthly ArtsCrawls http://www.cabq.gov/about/offsite.html all contributed to the high ranking.
USA TODAY: Six destinations to keep on your radar for 2006 http://www.cabq.gov/about/offsite.html

January 11, 2006 - USA TODAY picked Albuquerque as one of their six travel destinations to watch for 2006. Our Tricentennial celebration http://www.cabq.gov/about/offsite.html , the Albuquerque Museum's special exhibitions, the annual International Balloon Fiesta http://www.cabq.gov/about/offsite.html , and our affordability as a travel destination all helped put Albuquerque on the USA TODAY list.
 
kings13 said:
This is my 1st post and maybe my last if things don't go down. I already lost 50,000 on the value of my home and now if a new arena is not built, no use of buying a home in that area as planned. I am moving to Albuquerque, NM. They don't have a pro team, but I can get a nice home there @ Mesa del Sol, a 13,000 acre new urbanism community next year.
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I cannot let this comment go Kings13

Do you know about housing, slowdowns, ETC???

Houses don't appreciate at +20% a year as they have been. What comes up will come down. Sacramento has been one of the most over exposed housing markets in the nation. Top 10 at least, your house value has NOTHING to do with the Kings and more to do with the economy and this area. The value of your home has probably increased double from 4 years ago. So while its down 50k from 12 months ago its not really down. Housing typically is not a short term investment.

BTW with the exception of a few states, you can pretty much move anywhere and find larger, cheaper homes. People live in CA for a reason... if you hate it here leave. Thats my take.
 
kings13 said:
I hope this might change your mind:

Albuquerque's Top Rankings

Albuquerque is consistently receiving top rankings from a variety of sources. Here is a sample of the latest.
Forbes: Best Places for Business and Careers - 1st Place

May 4, 2006 - According to Forbes, Albuquerque has the lowest business cost in the country. This factor, along with an educated population and rising household incomes helped boost our city to the #1 spot for business and careers. Albuquerque climbed up from 5th place last year, beating out cities like Raleigh, Houston, Boise, and Knoxville.
Bizjournals.com: America's Smartest Cities - 10th Place

June 12, 2006 - An analysis of U.S. Census Bureau data done by Bizjournals.com reveals that Albuquerque ranks 10th among communities with the highest concentration of brainpower. The study analyzed the education levels of adults in thousands of communities. Factors that may have helped Albuquerque achieve this ranking are the fact that it's the home for the University of New Mexico and its proximity to Los Alamos National Laboratory .
Worldwide ERC & Primacy Relocation: Best Cities for Families Relocating - 8th Place

June 6, 2006 - In a joint study by Worldwide ERC and Primacy Relocation, Albuquerque ranked 8th among the best cities for relocating families. The study's factors took into consideration commuting, taxes, housing & living costs, temporary housing & storage, support for multi-generational families, and climate.
Kiplinger's: Smart Places to Live - 3rd Place

June 2006 - Albuquerque was ranked #3 by Kiplinger's magazine as one of the "50 smart places to live in the country". The ranking is based upon average home price, reasonable cost of living, great quality of life and access to health care.
AmericanStyle: Top 25 Art Cities - 2nd Place (among mid-sized cities)

June 2006 - AmericanStyle readers voted Albuquerque into the number 2 spot for top mid-sized art cities. Albuquerque's diverse art styles, the galleries along historic Route 66, and the monthly ArtsCrawls all contributed to the high ranking.
USA TODAY: Six destinations to keep on your radar for 2006

January 11, 2006 - USA TODAY picked Albuquerque as one of their six travel destinations to watch for 2006. Our Tricentennial celebration , the Albuquerque Museum's special exhibitions, the annual International Balloon Fiesta , and our affordability as a travel destination all helped put Albuquerque on the USA TODAY list.
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Why do you still live in Sacramento?
 
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June 2006 - Albuquerque was ranked #3 by Kiplinger's magazine as one of the "50 smart places to live in the country". The ranking is based upon average home price, reasonable cost of living, great quality of life and access to health care.
AmericanStyle: Top 25 Art Cities - 2nd Place (among mid-sized cities)

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I think Albuquerque is a fine place, spent a week there a few years back, when my bro-in-law worked at los alamos

HOWEVER, I find these city rankings to be more worthy of tp status than the much beloved nba power rankings.


Basing a city's desireablity on how cheap housing is? Huh?

Housing costs go up because PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE THERE. By those ranking's line of reasoning reasoning, San Francisco and Manhatten are the least desireable places to live in the country, as indicated by the many people running each other down to spend millions of dollars to live there.

I think I'll follow that line of reasoning in the rest of my life. In general, I will always wait until everybody else has picked through items I would like, and take the left-over scraps that nobody else was able to glean the true bargain-nature of. For instance, at a wedding reception if there are two hors-de-vors (i have ZERO idea how to spell that, but you get the point) one of which is disappearing as fast as the wait staff can bring it out, I will go for the OTHER one, because its abundant availability is a clear indication of its quality.

rules to live by.
 
mcsluggo said:
I think Albuquerque is a fine place, spent a week there a few years back, when my bro-in-law worked at los alamos

HOWEVER, I find these city rankings to be more worthy of tp status than the much beloved nba power rankings.


Basing a city's desireablity on how cheap housing is? Huh?

Housing costs go up because PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE THERE. By those ranking's line of reasoning reasoning, San Francisco and Manhatten are the least desireable places to live in the country, as indicated by the many people running each other down to spend millions of dollars to live there.

I think I'll follow that line of reasoning in the rest of my life. In general, I will always wait until everybody else has picked through items I would like, and take the left-over scraps that nobody else was able to glean the true bargain-nature of. For instance, at a wedding reception if there are two hors-de-vors (i have ZERO idea how to spell that, but you get the point) one of which is disappearing as fast as the wait staff can bring it out, I will go for the OTHER one, because its abundant availability is a clear indication of its quality.

rules to live by.
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Now now, there you go applying logic to the situation again Sluggo. :D
 
McSluggo: Funny, but often true in these polls. BF Skinner thought the people who get paid the most should be the ones who do the least desirable jobs. Sort of the opposite theory. Those jobs might fill up fast. :D
 
If Sacramento decides that building a new arena in the Railyards is not the best idea, Sacramento's "hors-de-vors" are going to be sitting in the sun too long and make people sick.
 
To the "Let's Bash Albuquerque" Club

Basing a city's desireablity on how cheap housing is? Huh?
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Wait, let me guess.

You Albuquerque bashers live in the MOST expensive areas in your communities...right???

No? But you have unlimited funds and COULD have lived in those most expensive places but instead chose another place to live based on "location" or some other factor, right?

Whatever.

The point is OBVIOUS, and OBVIOUSLY the cost of housing plays a role in the desireability of folks to live in a City, or NOT in a City at all. It's just that it's one of about a dozen key factors, and everyone weighs those factors differently.

So to bash someone that desires to live somewhere where one of THEIR important slices of the pie is cost of housing is out of line. Also, to assume that low cost of housing means that all the other slices of the pie are absent in a community/city is ignorant.

Desireability is in the eye of the beholder.
 
I think the bashing was aimed more at the poll about desireable cities. And they are pretty silly and tell you next to nothing really valuable about any of the cities. You can pick out certain things that make one city appear to be more desirable. Another poll might have the same city way down the list. Or the same list has the city drop way down a year or two later.
 
I don't like Alberk... Alberq... Alburqer...

because I can never remember how to spell it.
 
Well, if the arena measure fails, and you really feel that you need to get out of town, I recommend picking up a copy of "Places Rated Alamanac". It is an excellent reference which presents all the slices of the pie and rates cities on an assumed importance of each. The book carefully points out, though, that such ratings mean nothing to any one individual and it takes you through an exercise to determine which things are most important to you to help you decide the best place to live.

A number of years ago, I was approached by my company's Executive VP to consider a transfer to Madison, Wisconsin. I knew absolutely nothing about Madison, but grabbed a copy of PRA and found out that the elementary/secondary school system was amongst the top in the nation, medical care was outstanding, transportation system was outstanding, a moderate amount of cultural opportunities, plenty of recreation opportunities and numerous public parks, tons of intellectual capital in the town (thanx in large part to the UofW being there), and many high tech and other businesses with major ops there. I also saw how much snowfall they got each year and average temps in the winter months..yuk. Summers were very mild, though. Anyway, the housing was very inexpensive.

Go figure.
 
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