If Marcus Smart is available when/if we pick at 7, we take him all day. We are instantly upgraded defensively at the point, more physical, and he's got potential to be more than solid offensively. He has star potential....maybe not as much as the 3-4 guys at the top of the draft but I'd take him all day. Take him and then proceed to find a shotblocking PF/C in trade there isn't one worthy enough outside Embiid in the draft.
If Kings draft at #7, who should they take?
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Gary
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I get college BBall stuffed in my face and I hadn't even seen that much of the guy. I know I flipped to a lot of his games but I hadn't even remembered that much about him sooooooooooo, yah, I am not sure I want him.
I leave choosing the draft pick to Petrie/PDA, I have never seen any of the candidates play. So if we draft 7th then it's OK with me if PDA pick McDermott, Nurkic or Saric. I just read their stuff in DraftExpress. McDermott may be a 6'8" version of the Jimmer experience but I'll take the risk if PDA will. And there is nothing like a good Croatian.
Big Cuz 15
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didn't we already have marcus smart on our team last summer before we signed and traded him? i doubt we pick him if we already had him and let him go.
CurseOfTheSalmons
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so... noah vonleh came out with ridiculous measurements at the combine, maybe too ridiculous to pass on, especially if marcus smart isn't available.
CurseOfTheSalmons
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marcus smart has nothing significant in common with tyreke evans!
Big Cuz 15
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You mean the overpaid version
Big Cuz 15
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roasthawg
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We'd have to really luck out to get Vonleh I think... Smart is likely to be the guy that "falls" imo. I'll take Saric over Smart if that's the case.
gunks
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randymoss1881
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Let's say Randle falls to is at 7 with smart/Vonleh going ahead of him. Do we take him and have him as our 1st big off the bench getting 30mpg and then go look for a Robin Lopez guy to fit with DMC start them together.
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SacKings2002NBAChampions
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Smart is like fast food...looks good at first but turns out to be a living nightmare
Dime Dropper
All-Star
You've been making a lot of weird comments about a lot of different prospects which don't seem to fit. I wonder if you actually watched any college basketball?
roasthawg
Starter
Having Landry and Randle doesn't make much sense imo. If you love him you take him but once again I go Saric over Randle.
Mike
Bench
The main issue I have with Dario Saric is that while he has declared for the draft, it has been said that he wants to stay in Europe for couple of seasons to taste the Euroleague and believes it will be the best for his development. Now fair enough, if he plays a season or two in Europe, and then comes over to the NBA - great. But what happens of he becomes the next Fran Vasquez?
The guy is talented, but he comes with the potential problem that you probably won't see him in a Kings jersey next season, and comes with a risk that he could decide to stay in Europe.
When it comes down to it, our team has a lottery pick, and we need to use it wisely. We need to find a guy that can, and will, wear a Kings jersey and contribute on this team. I think that is why investing in a guy like Smart or Gordon, if Vonleh is off the board, could be the best road to go down because they have the potential to contribute from day one. As let's face it, the hope will be that this is going to be one of our last draft lottery picks because we'll be heading back to the play offs.
roasthawg
Starter
Agreed for sure about waiting on Saric... I don't want to wait on a player for even one season, let alone more. It all depends on how big the gap is I guess... for me, if it's Smart or Saric I wait on Saric. I just don't see what Smart is gonna do in this league. Bad offense from your pg isn't something that many teams excel with. Maybe we take some like McDermott instead? I don't know, hope we luck out in the lottery and have a shot at Embiid making everything else a moot point!
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SacKings2002NBAChampions
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I'm not saying Smart is not going to be a good player. He'll be the next stat filler like MCW. His personality doesn't mesh with our team. His mental side is also something to worry about. You want a clinically sane individual around Cousins if you want a playoff team.
What's wrong with the rest of my picks?
I've clearly stated that I would only take Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, Exum, Vonleh, Saric, and Nurkic from this draft. Everyone else I would trade the pick for an established vet with firepower.
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SacKings2002NBAChampions
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Where did you read this?
I've read multiple articles and interviews relating to Saric (in Serbian) where he states that he's excited for the NBA and is ready for the next challenge. He also is a little cocky guy because he thinks that he is better than Wiggins, Embiid and Parker. But I like that cockiness. It is usually a common factor in all stars. The exuding confidence.
Mike
Bench
http://www.draftexpress.com/article...ric-Will-Declare-for-the-2014-NBA-Draft--4464
Now granted the above interview is with his agent, but they have set out a plan. He doesn't rule out Dario coming to the league this summer, and he does state Dario is excited to be an NBA player, and has a dream to become an NBA all star. However, it does state that there is a belief in their camp that he will benefit from staying in Europe for a season or two.
http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/dario_saric
His coach from the Croatian national team has also suggested it might be best for Dario to stay in Europe for a couple of seasons to play for a top European club.
Though his mentor from Cibona has confidence Dario is ready to play straight away if a team can guarantee him minutes. He also believes Dario can be an all star.
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I don't dispute that the kid is talented. He seems to have a decent, versatile skill set according to the draft express video. But when you take into account some of his weaknesses (inconsistent shooter, lack of speed and athleticism, questionable defense, only a 6'10 wingspan etc), then I'm really not convinced he would be the 'right' pick if we draft at #7.
I suppose he could be a project, and if he develops into an all star then that's great. But if we are looking at a project I'd rather look at a big like Gordon. He brings better defense, speed and athleticism to the table. If they can improve his offensive skill set, which is possible, then Gordon could be an excellent player to pair with Cousins. Equally another project that we would be better off looking at is Zach Lavine. He projects as a PG/SG. He really did shine at the combine, and he could be developed into a very good player at either guard position. With Thomas (if re-signed), McLemore and LaVine that would give the team three very talented and athletic guys to play PG, SG and sixth man.
I think we have better options than taking a risk on Dario.
Mike
Bench
Agreed, I hope we get lucky and find ourselves drafting higher, or perhaps see Vonleh fall to us at #7. But if we did luck out and grab Embiid, what happens to Cousins, would you move him down to PF?
In terms of who we could take at #7. I do like the look and potential of Gordon. At the combine he showed how athletic he is, and he brings good defense and an improving offensive skill set. If Vonleh is gone, this guy is probably the big I'd like us to go for.
Another option could be LaVine. Ok we don't need a PG/SG if Thomas gets a new deal, and McLemore continues to start. But LaVine does have a ton of upside, and at the combine showed how athletic he is. It would give us a lot of flexibility and options to roll with, and three talented guys that could form a dangerous backcourt.
Albatros
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LaVine and Gordon getting all this hype for jumping high.
If you're going to play a run make or miss style offense a la Denver, these guys would be perfect, quick, leapers, explosive guys who run the break all day long, but Malone has proven he won't run that style, especially with Rudy (right decision IMO) So these guys would just be another Derrick Williams type player who will excite with a couple of flashy dunks but swallowed up the rest of the time. Gordon obviously has that defensive skillset but this is the NBA now, so....
I still prefer Stauskas over Gordon and Randle all day long, even McDermott, put some genuine shooting threat all around Cuz and let him do his thing. No more "athletic" no position players please. Smart intrigues because I love his attitude, don't expect to see him at 7 and if IT stays Smart may as well stay in the parking lot for games should he be drafted, same with LaVine, he would get spot minutes off the bench and be asked to handle the ball, which he's not good at, not a good looking pick for me.
Anyway I hope those combine numbers don't get the FO turning their heads from our genuine needs.
If you're going to play a run make or miss style offense a la Denver, these guys would be perfect, quick, leapers, explosive guys who run the break all day long, but Malone has proven he won't run that style, especially with Rudy (right decision IMO) So these guys would just be another Derrick Williams type player who will excite with a couple of flashy dunks but swallowed up the rest of the time. Gordon obviously has that defensive skillset but this is the NBA now, so....
I still prefer Stauskas over Gordon and Randle all day long, even McDermott, put some genuine shooting threat all around Cuz and let him do his thing. No more "athletic" no position players please. Smart intrigues because I love his attitude, don't expect to see him at 7 and if IT stays Smart may as well stay in the parking lot for games should he be drafted, same with LaVine, he would get spot minutes off the bench and be asked to handle the ball, which he's not good at, not a good looking pick for me.
Anyway I hope those combine numbers don't get the FO turning their heads from our genuine needs.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
On that front, found this amusing description at hoopshype, for a slideshow of the biggest leapers in Draft Combine history:
The slideshow is here btw, including several former Kings (Bobby Brown for one) as well as Ben: http://hoopshype.com/galleries/thelighterside/the-best-leapers-at-the-draft-combine
Looks like we can't go wrong with a 7th pick according to all I read here. If we can get someone from the draft to play a competent backup role at any position that would be great. And we can use that help anywhere but particularly at the SG, SF, PF or C position. Get IT and Gay back and all we need is to pick up one more player, a solid contributor as a starter or a real contributing backup any where. Only asterisk is that some of the new help has to be at the SG position.
Still wouldn't do anything to address our issues on defense or offensive fit. We have farther to go than we think.
Big Cuz 15
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shhhh.................. gerbil loves the athletic run type of players. wouldn't surprise me if he picked another one
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SacKings2002NBAChampions
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Yeah, last person I'd ever trust is an agent. The only reason the agent said that is just in case Saric returns next season to Europe, there will be teams who are ready to pick him up.
Something that Saric will bring to the table that Gordon and LaVine can not is BBIQ. LaVine is a HUGE project. He's nowhere near NBA ready.
Saric is the smart guy you want next to Cousins and he's the guy that is most compatible with Cousins because of his timid personality. He's really a perfect fit and pick for our draft position considering his upside and team qualities that he can bring to Sac. Saying this, I'd still take Vonleh over him if given the opportunity but only by a little bit. Saric is the biggest Euro talent since Rubio and Gasol brothers. It's a good opportunity.
miltonap
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Just watched some videos on Saric. There were things I really liked, and of course, things I didn't like. You can tell his BBIQ is through the roof. He can really pass wow. He moves very fluidly around the court also.
However, his defense is pretty awful. Slow footed and really weak. He has trouble contesting shots and has a very short wingspan. Another thing is that he cannot really shoot. I don't know where these Dirk comparisons came from. Dirk is one of the greatest shooters in NBA history. Defenders dare Saric to shoot. Of course, it's not like we need him so much for his offense assuming Rudy Gay stays. I think he would fit in well on offense. BBIQ is something this team really lacks. If Jent can fix his shot, he would be a great fit.
This team desperately needs defenders though. Saric for offensive potential, vonleh for defensive potential. I honestly think Vonleh is the better fit since he can spread the floor and has defensive potential. I wouldn't be mad if we're left with Saric though
However, his defense is pretty awful. Slow footed and really weak. He has trouble contesting shots and has a very short wingspan. Another thing is that he cannot really shoot. I don't know where these Dirk comparisons came from. Dirk is one of the greatest shooters in NBA history. Defenders dare Saric to shoot. Of course, it's not like we need him so much for his offense assuming Rudy Gay stays. I think he would fit in well on offense. BBIQ is something this team really lacks. If Jent can fix his shot, he would be a great fit.
This team desperately needs defenders though. Saric for offensive potential, vonleh for defensive potential. I honestly think Vonleh is the better fit since he can spread the floor and has defensive potential. I wouldn't be mad if we're left with Saric though
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