How will the new Rockets look ?

[Andriod_KiNg]

I mean they lost alot of toughness in two guys that ended up in Sacramento and added a guy... well to be nice , isnt as tough ,how do you think they will hold up this season, well they goto the playoffs ?

 

[DocHolliday]

They also picked up Jeffries (trash) and Jordan Hill.

 

[Andriod_KiNg]

From what heard of Hill, he is also pretty soft.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

From what heard of Hill, he is also pretty soft.

I am interested to see what Adelmen can do with the young fella.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

If Hill could barely get off the bench in NY I'm not sure Adelman is going to have much reason to play him. I think he would have had a much better chance to develop here but even that is questionable with Landry coming in and the odds in favor of us drafting another big. Sad because I like him and I think he should have stayed in school an extra year, it would have done him and Arizona a lot of good.

 

[tyrant]

with adding marting? i suppose softer than a million cotton balls

 

[Tetsujin]

I am interested to see what Adelmen can do with the young fella.

Adelman is notorious for not laying the youngins (see: Wallace, Gerald)

 

[Insomniacal Fan]

Nobody copes with injuries better than Adelman.

 

[Tetsujin]

Nobody copes with injuries better than Adelman.

So true. It does seem that the injury curse followed him to Houston though.

 

[PassFirst]

yeah, he is really good with injuries... he handled himself well here and he has done a really good job in houston. one season without yao, followed by one season without mcgrady and finally this season without both... still managed to make the playoffs with chuck hayes as a starter... thats a miracle.

 

[Bricklayer]

Well, they needed the offense, and Rick is just the guy to get it out of Kevin, so it should help. But yes, the key will be whether the remainder of the team's tough guy core is enough to keep the comraderie and defensive focus steady, or if Kevin will again, as he was here, end up kind of a foregin body. As long as they keep their personality, and can just add extra offense with Kevin, they'll be better off with this trade. Finally a major offensive weapon for them. If it is enough to break the chemistry that has allowed them to overacheive so highly this season, then they won't.

 

[dbfish]

Man! Yao and Kevin Martin together. Talk about putting all your injuries in one basket.

 

[DocHolliday]

By the way...anyone worried about Kevin coming back and torching us later this season (I think the last game of the season), it's possible, but not likely. He'll have a combo of Tyreke and Francisco covering him. All you have to do is get physical with Martin and he gets frustrated and disappears.

Although, you can bet that he will be fired up for that game, and try to play harder than normal on both ends to (show us) what we traded away; even though he wanted to go. But, he wanted to go, because of the emphasis put on the youth and building the offense around them instead of him. His feelings were hurt (single tear shed) .....suck it up Kevin.

 

[kennadog]

Adelman is notorious for not laying the youngins (see: Wallace, Gerald)

So, on a championship contending team you would have benched Peja in favor of Wallace, who was said to be not dedicated enough to practice hard back then?

 

[pdxKingsFan]

So, on a championship contending team you would have benched Peja in favor of Wallace, who was said to be not dedicated enough to practice hard back then?

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. I think he's pointing out that there aren't going to be a lot of minutes for Hill on a fringe contender under coach Adelman. I don't think Hill deserves them and yet he will need them to fully develop. He is best suited to be on a team that can afford to give him playing time and the Rockets aren't it.

 

[uolj]

Adelman is notorious for not laying the youngins (see: Wallace, Gerald)

No, he's not (see: Stojakovic, Peja; Williams, Jason; Turkoglu, Hidayet; Garcia, Francisco; Landry, Carl; Scola, Luis).

 

[Tetsujin]

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. I think he's pointing out that there aren't going to be a lot of minutes for Hill on a fringe contender under coach Adelman. I don't think Hill deserves them and yet he will need them to fully develop. He is best suited to be on a team that can afford to give him playing time and the Rockets aren't it.

Exactly. Anyone who's saying that Wallace should have been playing ahead of Turkoglu or Pedja at that point is crazy. I'm just saying that developing raw athletes is usually not on top of Rick's To-Do List.

 

[uolj]

Exactly. Anyone who's saying that Wallace should have been playing ahead of Turkoglu or Pedja at that point is crazy. I'm just saying that developing raw athletes is usually not on top of Rick's To-Do List.

So it really has nothing to do with Adelman at all, it's about the fact that he generally coaches contending teams, right?

Any "notoriety" Adelman himself has for not playing young players is misguided.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

So it really has nothing to do with Adelman at all, it's about the fact that he generally coaches contending teams, right?

Any "notoriety" Adelman himself has for not playing young players is misguided.

That's a fair statement though I suspect there are some coaches who have done a better job integrating newer talent onto a contending team, but I honestly can't think of who. You could argue Doc Rivers did it, mostly out of necessity, with Rondo but you couldn't convince me that Rivers is anywhere near as good a coach.

 

[Tetsujin]

That's a fair statement though I suspect there are some coaches who have done a better job integrating newer talent onto a contending team, but I honestly can't think of who. You could argue Doc Rivers did it, mostly out of necessity, with Rondo but you couldn't convince me that Rivers is anywhere near as good a coach.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't he have Gary (very old but still) Payton on the roster at the same time?

The Lakers did it with Bynum (though he has regressed and they also had him being mentored by possibly the greatest bigman of all time). The Blazers were doing it with Oden until his knee imploded (they were contenders until the injury bug wiped them out). Cavs are trying to do it with Hixson (though with Jamison there now, that may have gone byebye for a while).

One must remember that Kevin played all of twenty-something minutes his first season in Sacramento and the only reason he played much in Adelman's last season was Bonzi going down with an injury.