How To Improve Our Bench!

OptimusRhyme

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The Kings need a better bench it's that simple were not deep enough if injuries come along. What are some players you think could help?

Roger Mason Jr & Jerome Moiso were waived on Thursday to make room for the trade. Mason played pretty good for the Raps in the Preseason averaging 7-8 points in a little over ten minutes, Moiso has the potential it just has to be discovered for him and thats a matter of time. Any players you think could help?
 
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sloter said:
Bench Webber.
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Don't you ever get tired of that, sloter? I know I do.
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Perhaps our sloter, much like goldfish, has a very limited short-term memory capacity. It could be that he simply doesn't remember how many times he's made the same comment.
 
Waiving Alexander was a move to open up a contract and a slot. I suspect Petrie is waiting to see how Court heal up and who gets waived when the Pacers get Oneil back. I expect a decent additon before the All Star break.
 
I think Sloter's making a backhanded compliment. If he's suggesting Webber would improve our bench, then he's saying that Webber is better than whomever would start in his place...
 
LPKingsFan said:
I think Sloter's making a backhanded compliment. If he's suggesting Webber would improve our bench, then he's saying that Webber is better than whomever would start in his place...
And that would not be true of the other 4 starters?
 
Right now, it just looks like Steve Smith as an easy option. The type of player the team needs–Fast, Athletic big man–is hard to come by and the team would have to give up too much to get a player like that. I doubt Adleman even plays a Moiso or Alexander.
 
OptimusRhyme said:
If only we still had Jimmy Jackson..... Even Wallace would help us this year......
Wallace would help us? How exactly? Wallace and his peformance on the Bobcats is not the same as Wallace on the Sacramento Kings. Big fish in a little pond vs. pretty tiny fish in a really big ocean.

Those guys are gone. It's history. We let JJ go to give Wallace an opportunity. We exposed Wallace to the expansion draft because he was the best option for doing so...
 
Moiso would be a good pick but he has the worst problem any player could have in the NBA : no mental toughness.

He'd bring us some energy, blocks and rebounds though. A Keon Clark like player...
 
Again, a guy like Moiso is really just depth. If a guy isn't clearly better than Darius or Tag, its not going to change our day to day bench play at all. And unless they are actually so good they can steal minutes from Webb/Miller, the overall interior flavor of the team isn't going to change much. I would certainly think Moiso is a better option than Erik Daniels for the end of the bench, but I don't see a guy just cut by the Raptors coming in an dmaking a big impact on our team.

And yes, obviously having Wallace would be very useful right now, assuming Rick would play him. However as a franchise it seems we have become something approaching obsessed with guys who can shoot jumpers, and Gerald still can't. That focus is part of the reason we are so good, but we may have gone too far now -- at times we have started to look like a YMCA team of old unathletic white guys shooting jumpers. We need some live bodies in the worst way.
 
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Steve Smith is a guy that really comes to mind... He would fit perfectly in the Kings game... Let's face it, we aren't going out and getting a guy that is going to improve our defense drastically... Any defensive stopper isn't coming cheap. Steve Smith will help the bench, the chemistry, and is a guy that can hit important shots (even though he might not be on the floor in crunch time), he can spread the floor... I don't see anything wrong with picking this guy up.
 
Is there a particular reason people think it would be easy to acquire Steve Smith? Picking him up? Didn't he just sign a contract with the Bobcats??
 
However as a franchise it seems we have become something approaching obsessed with guys who can shoot jumpers, and Gerald still can't.

Which is a major problem. This team has been built to win a game of HORSE, not an NBA championship.

Is there a particular reason people think it would be easy to acquire Steve Smith? Picking him up? Didn't he just sign a contract with the Bobcats??

There has been talk the Bobcats are willing to trade Smith to a contender if he wants or just perhaps outright release him. If you ask me, I think Steve Smith was putting on a tryout in that shooting spree between him and Peja. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to come to the Kings, TWolves or Miami. I thought he might want to return to the Spurs, but I don't think he'd get any playing time there and he wants to at least get off the bench. Kings style fits his play, Twolves are contenders and Miami has Shaq and is also a place he spent a lot of years at.
 
nAj jAn - House signed with the Bucks. Malone isn't going to come to Sacramento. We have nothing to offer him that would actually entice him here IMHO.
 
Too bad House was signed, he would be a great pickup!

If you want to improve the King's bench, tell Adelman to put the 5 bench in the starting five and put the starters in the bench..
 
Well if the Kings are still looking "beef up" the bench this off season I have the next Kings center picked out. Jack "Biscuts and Gravy" Marlow

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Fresno State's Jack Marlow (12) is fouled by Southern California's Emanuel Willis during the first half at the Sports Arena in Los Angeles Wednesday, Dec. 8, 2004.
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You really have to see this guy play to truly appreciate both the humor here and that love we Bulldog fans have for Jack. PS Trust me on this one the boy IS as dumb as he looks!
 
I find myself looking wistfully at Toronto's roster, which is somethng that you could wait a LONG time before hearing me say again. They actually have two players which we could realy use, for different reasons:

1) Donyell Marshall -- weird player in that he's the Tony Massenberg of quality guys. Bounces from one losing team to another. Never finding a home. Questions about his mental toughness/makeup. But he's a combo 4/3, and a good one. A strong rebounder, a shotblocker, has a post game AND can step out to the three point line. The sort of guy that Rick would have confidence in, with the versatility that coach has been craving. Guard those perimeter 4s and postup 3s. Create mismatch problems. Give us a boost on the boards and a little inside shotblocking. Cut back on Peja's minutes and give us a more mobile option behind Webb as well.

2) Alonzo Mourning -- as much for his warrior spirit as hsi actual playign ability anymore. Shotblocker obviously. But most of all a warrior. Wouldn't really fit our style of play, is as old, decrepit, and prone to watching a game in a suit as the rest of our guys, but if you're trying to find a way to inspire fight in your team, why not bring in a fighter?

Problem is, even if those guys could help I see no way to get either/both without giving up a core guy just because of salary reasons. And very little reason for Toronto to do it anyway. Doug's salary along with Darius and maybe one of the rooks would put us in the vicinity on a purely monetary scale, and we might (emphasize MIGHT) even be able to convince Toronto what they really needed was a veteran leader like Doug to come back to his old stomping grounds along with some young talent. But then we ourselves would have a gaping hole over at OG, as well as having lost one of our leaders.
 
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VF21 said:
Is there a particular reason people think it would be easy to acquire Steve Smith? Picking him up? Didn't he just sign a contract with the Bobcats??
I read that the Bobcats would be willing to trade him to a contender if he so asked... The Bobcats need nothing with him, and would like to get some young guys in return (a.k.a. Evans or Daniels) and a draft pick...
 
Evans would be a nice pickup for the Bobcats. I think we need another defensive stopper though, someone to come in and force turnovers.
 
Bench not really the problem...

Until Adelman stops playing a steady 8 man rotation it doesn't matter how good/bad the bench is. Also those teams that play huge rotations will cut it down come playoff time. I am confident in Tag, BoJax, and Darius. Barnes is a little suspect but at least he hustles and is athletic.
 
swisshh said:
Right now, it just looks like Steve Smith as an easy option. The type of player the team needs–Fast, Athletic big man–is hard to come by and the team would have to give up too much to get a player like that. I doubt Adleman even plays a Moiso or Alexander.
Steve Smith is done. He is strictly a spot up shooter and as far as athleticism goes, any he had has long since disappeared. A great person and representative of the NBA.....but, he's still done.
 
Re: Bench not really the problem

SacTownKid said:
Until Adelman stops playing a steady 8 man rotation it doesn't matter how good/bad the bench is. Also those teams that play huge rotations will cut it down come playoff time. I am confident in Tag, BoJax, and Darius. Barnes is a little suspect but at least he hustles and is athletic.
This is a fair statement; what difference does it make how much talent we have on the bench, if Adelman only plays eight-deep? We've had starter-quality players on the bench that can't get time because Coach doesn't utilize his bench as well as he could, and I really doubt that there's some mystical player out there that could compel Adelman to break his rotation.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
This is a fair statement; what difference does it make how much talent we have on the bench, if Adelman only plays eight-deep? We've had starter-quality players on the bench that can't get time because Coach doesn't utilize his bench as well as he could, and I really doubt that there's some mystical player out there that could compel Adelman to break his rotation.
The bigger picture is in order to play bench guys you have to take one of the starters out and Adelman doesn't like to do that. As you said Slim, he never has, even when the bench was deep. When the starters are doing nothing positive he sticks with them but sometimes you just can't do that. Put them in if nothing more than to get a change in energy
 
Haha, I'm sorry I didn't read this thread in a while so I didn't catch your reactions to "Bench Webber" remark. IT WAS A JOKE (although last year that would have been very appropriate). But it is true it would make the bench better.
 
So, combining a number of posts on this thread:

Is a bench of Bobby/Darius/Tag/Barnes

better than a bench of Bobby/Marshall/Zo?
 
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