How many wins the rest of the way?

[Warhawk]

Sun 08 vs Denver
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0BD4C03?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSTue 10 vs Oklahoma City
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0BE4C08?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSFri 13 vs Cleveland
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0BF4C0B?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSSun 15 @ Washington
Tue 17 @ Atlanta
Wed 18 @ Charlotte
Fri 20 @ New York
Sun 22 vs Philadelphia
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C04C0C?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSFri 27 vs Memphis
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C04C0F?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSSun 29 vs Phoenix
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C14C10?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSTue 31 vs New Orleans

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C24C12?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSApril
Wed 01 @ Golden State
Fri 03 @ Phoenix
Sun 05 vs Golden State
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C34C13?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSTue 07 vs LA Lakers
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C44C15?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSThu 09 vs Houston
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C54C16?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSFri 10 @ LA Clippers
Sun 12 vs San Antonio
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C64C18?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSMon 13 @ Denver
Wed 15 @ Minnesota


OK, here is the schedule. How many more wins will the Kings have? 20 games left.....

 

[Sarunas]

The only road games I could see us winning are @Minnesota, @GS, @LAC.
At home I could see us pulling some nailbiters out against the warriors, memphis and OKC.

 

[vikinginferno]

There are six or seven games that I see us possibly winning so I think we will win about half of those so probably 3 more.

 

[fnordius]

I went with 3-5.

We're playing 4 games against teams with about as bad a record as ours (LAC, OKC, Memphis, Washington), we'll probably split those. Throw in another random win versus some weaker team like GSW or Charlotte, and that'll give us 17 for the year, which is what our current .210 rating would suggest.

But 0-2 isn't out of the question.

 

[kingzallday]

yep 3-5 here too.

 

[Merdiesel]

::crosses fingers:: for 0-2 wins.

 

[MoneyMike916]

just beat the lakers at home.

 

[PurpleHaze]

Either this Kings team has given up for most part or their talent level is so weak there's no hope of winning hardly any more games. I suspect getting Beno Udrih back will help get a couple W's simply because he can run the offense as a true point guard, saving us from Bjax playing 35 minutes or the amazing Will Soloman show.

It seems so long ago our 08-09 Kings began the season 3-4 and that was only 3 game winning steak (or even 2 game win steak) produced all season. So I'll go with 3-4 more wins with desperate hope a "new voice" will take over the coaching reins soon after season ends so such a joke does not become a bad sequel next season.

 

[kingsnation]

Sun 08 vs Denver
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0BD4C03?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSTue 10 vs Oklahoma City
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0BE4C08?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSFri 13 vs Cleveland
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0BF4C0B?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSSun 15 @ Washington
Tue 17 @ Atlanta
Wed 18 @ Charlotte
Fri 20 @ New York
Sun 22 vs Philadelphia
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C04C0C?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSFri 27 vs Memphis
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C04C0F?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSSun 29 vs Phoenix
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C14C10?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSTue 31 vs New Orleans

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C24C12?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSApril
Wed 01 @ Golden State
Fri 03 @ Phoenix
Sun 05 vs Golden State
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C34C13?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSTue 07 vs LA Lakers
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C44C15?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSThu 09 vs Houston
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C54C16?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSFri 10 @ LA Clippers
Sun 12 vs San Antonio
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C00412BA0C64C18?CAMEFROM=NBAKINGS_sch&brand=KINGSMon 13 @ Denver
Wed 15 @ Minnesota


OK, here is the schedule. How many more wins will the Kings have? 20 games left.....

March 10th, 22nd, and 27th.

April 5th and 10th.

so, 5.

 

[vikinginferno]

It seems so long ago our 08-09 Kings began the season 3-4 and that was only 3 game winning steak (or even 2 game win steak) produced all season.

Yeah, wow. I remember thinking that we were going to be a below 20 win team before the season. When we were 3-4 I was like, "Oh, maybe not...". I guess I was right in the first place.

 

[D13]

If anybody has half a brain in management NONE!..

But regrettably these are all very possible...

March
Tue 10 vs Oklahoma City
Sun 15 @ Washington
Wed 18 @ Charlotte
Fri 20 @ New York
Fri 27 vs Memphis

April
Wed 01 @ Golden State
Sun 05 vs Golden State
Fri 10 @ LA Clippers
Wed 15 @ Minnesota

 

[VF21]

It's not up to management. Those blasted Clippers are diabolical, and Don Nelson might end up putting trained seals in uniforms to force us into a woss or two.

I went with 3-5...

 

[Capt. Factorial]

If you look at the other bottom 6 in the league (GS, Minny, Memphis, LAC, OKC, and Washington) we are 10-4 thus far this year. We've got 7 left against these teams, so we're liable to win 5. Add one more against Charlotte or NY, maybe another against a top team...6-7 more wins is not an unreasonable estimate.

 

[D13]

It's not up to management. Those blasted Clippers are diabolical, and Don Nelson might end up putting trained seals in uniforms to force us into a woss or two.

I went with 3-5...

It's not up to management, on the table... but under the table who's to say we can't shut a few guys down and play more youth and mix things up?... Shut down Bobby, shut down Beno, McCants starting point, Greene 1st SF off bench, Soloman back up 1, give Diogu and Simmons some burn in... MIX IT UP KINGS!

 

[VF21]

It's not up to management, on the table... but under the table who's to say we can't shut a few guys down and play more youth and mix things up?... Shut down Bobby, shut down Beno, McCants starting point, Greene 1st SF off bench, Soloman back up 1, give Diogu and Simmons some burn in... MIX IT UP KINGS!

Oh I understood what you meant. I meant you cannot underestimate the dedication of some of those other bottom feeders to try and steal the coveted basement spot right out from under our noses.

 

[Bricklayer]

If you look at the other bottom 6 in the league (GS, Minny, Memphis, LAC, OKC, and Washington) we are 10-4 thus far this year. We've got 7 left against these teams, so we're liable to win 5. Add one more against Charlotte or NY, maybe another against a top team...6-7 more wins is not an unreasonable estimate.

I would agree that 6-7 is possible, and a little scary just because you figure 1 or 2 of our inept competitiors might do worse. But what you mention above may save us -- its really one of the amzing storeis this year with us. We really have been every bit as bad as our record. We beat NOBODY but the very very worst crap teams. I think one win against the Lakers, the New Orleans surprise, and then maybe a win against...Denver at home in January? In any case, we have been very consistent all year long -- if that pattern persists you could virtually write off all the games against the legitimate NBA teams left on the schedule and jsut worry about the terrible teams.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I would agree that 6-7 is possible, and a little scary just because you figure 1 or 2 of our inept competitiors might do worse. But what you mention above may save us -- its really one of the amzing storeis this year with us. We really have been every bit as bad as our record. We beat NOBODY but the very very worst crap teams. I think one win against the Lakers, the New Orleans surprise, and then maybe a win against...Denver at home in January? In any case, we have been very consistent all year long -- if that pattern persists you could virtually write off all the games against the legitimate NBA teams left on the schedule and jsut worry about the terrible teams.

It was Dallas at home in January, but you're right, and the pattern is weird. Lots of wins against the very worst teams, three against good teams, and none against mediocre teams.

Let's break down each of the 7 "crap" teams by:
Record against crap teams/wins vs. mediocre/wins vs. good
(I use record against the worst teams because Washington has fewer games against the worst, being from the east.)

Us: 10-4 / 0 / 3

Washington: 5-3 / 6 / 3
Thunder: 8-10 / 4 / 3
Minny: 7-7 / 10 / 1
Grizz: 7-8 / 4 / 5
Clippers: 6-9 / 5 / 4
Warriors: 7-9 / 8 / 6

So if we were playing a round-robin against just these teams, we'd be way out in front - Washington (the next worst overall) would be the only other team above .500. But somehow, we've got only three wins outside of the crap-fest, while everybody else has at least 7. Those distributions are weird. I don't know quite what to make of them.

 

[fnordius]

Those distributions are weird. I don't know quite what to make of them.

This might be part of the answer.

The first few weeks of the season featured a disproportionate number of craptacular teams for us. We were also playing somewhat better then. So it could be, in part, our schedule. Aside from squeaking out a loss at Minny on the first game of the season, we went a perfect 6-0 against the bottom teams through the end of the calendar year. Since then, it's dropped to 4-2 against basement dwellers.

Another skewing factor in the schedule may have been home versus road: in Oct-Dec all but 2 of those games against weak teams were home games, and the road games we split 1-1. Since then, more road games, more mixed results.

But it's still puzzling. I'm thinking that maybe the team can't get very motivated unless they know their opponent of the evening really stinks.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

But it's still puzzling. I'm thinking that maybe the team can't get very motivated unless they know their opponent of the evening really stinks.

Yeah, your explanation could go at least part of the way towards explaining it. But now the real question - what's the distribution of future games?

(Craptastic / Mediocre / Good)
Us: 7 / 6 / 7
Wiz: 5 / 8 / 9
Clipps: 5 / 5 / 10
Thunder: 3 / 7 / 11
Grizz: 4 / 7 / 11
T-pups: 6 / 6 / 10
GSW: 5 / 6 / 10

That doesn't look so friendly for us, with our remaining schedule apparently the easiest of the bunch. We're going to need to hold serve against the mediocre teams - our 0-fer record against them is the best thing we've got going (in the quest for a #1 pick, that is).

 

[SacKings7]

Yeah, your explanation could go at least part of the way towards explaining it. But now the real question - what's the distribution of future games?

(Craptastic / Mediocre / Good)
Us: 7 / 6 / 7
Wiz: 5 / 8 / 9
Clipps: 5 / 5 / 10
Thunder: 3 / 7 / 11
Grizz: 4 / 7 / 11
T-pups: 6 / 6 / 10
GSW: 5 / 6 / 10

That doesn't look so friendly for us, with our remaining schedule apparently the easiest of the bunch. We're going to need to hold serve against the mediocre teams - our 0-fer record against them is the best thing we've got going (in the quest for a #1 pick, that is).

The only good thing about that list is only us and the Clippers play 20 games. Everyone else plays 21 or 22 which gives them 1 or 2 extra opportunities to screw themselves out of more ping pong balls

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

The latter part of the schedule scares me a bit--by that time many of the playoff teams may have clinched their respective seedings and may start playing their scrubs and resting their starters. The Lakers, Houston, San Antonio and Denver games may be reflective of that. Natt has been playing the new guys obviously, but even our sort of talent trumps the likes of a starting lineup consisting of George Hill, Malik Hairston, Kurt Thomas, Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto.

 

[Bricklayer]

The latter part of the schedule scares me a bit--by that time many of the playoff teams may have clinched their respective seedings and may start playing their scrubs and resting their starters. The Lakers, Houston, San Antonio and Denver games may be reflective of that. Natt has been playing the new guys obviously, but even our sort of talent trumps the likes of a starting lineup consisting of George Hill, Malik Hairston, Kurt Thomas, Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto.

Beauty of the playoff races this year is nobody will have clinched much of anything except the Lakers, and they are still battlign for homecourt in the Finals. But the rest of the West are all still piled right on top of each other with 3 games separating #2 from #8.

 

[fnordius]

Yeah, your explanation could go at least part of the way towards explaining it. But now the real question - what's the distribution of future games?

(Craptastic / Mediocre / Good)
Us: 7 / 6 / 7
Wiz: 5 / 8 / 9
Clipps: 5 / 5 / 10
Thunder: 3 / 7 / 11
Grizz: 4 / 7 / 11
T-pups: 6 / 6 / 10
GSW: 5 / 6 / 10

That doesn't look so friendly for us, with our remaining schedule apparently the easiest of the bunch. We're going to need to hold serve against the mediocre teams - our 0-fer record against them is the best thing we've got going (in the quest for a #1 pick, that is).

On the bright side, you can cross Minny and GS off the list of worst team contenders, they already have too many wins to possibly hold out against the combined suckitude of the Kings, Clippers, Wizards, Grizz and Thunder. It's really a 5-team race now.

The down side is that means we could still drop to 5th place with only a few wosses. Nobody can take first place away from us but ourselves, but that could easily happen.

 

[jalfa]

On the bright side, you can cross Minny and GS off the list of worst team contenders, they already have too many wins to possibly hold out against the combined suckitude of the Kings, Clippers, Wizards, Grizz and Thunder. It's really a 5-team race now.

The only team of that list that really scares me, as far as being worse as the Kings goes, is Washington. The Grizzlies and Thunder don't quite have the motivation, since the Thunder are already quite talented and might just want their players to continue to improve and the same goes for the Grizz (with the bonus that top lottery picks are waaaayy too expensive for Heisley). The Clippers, could still improve somewhat, although this is based entirely on intuition. The Wizards, however, are terrifying. Losing to the Thunder, when they are without Durant and Green? Not good, not good at all.

 

[Bricklayer]

Do not underestimate the Wolves -- they have completely collapsed without Jefferson, and are fully coapable of ending up wiht only 19-20 wins. This is an experienced team at sucking, and one fo the best tanking crews in the business too. If we make the mistake of going out and wing 2 in a row or something, they are back in play.

And sterling may have just destroyed any chacne for the Clipeprs to go on any sort of late seaosn run by bitching them out in the locker room after the Spurs game. There is no way that group of cancerous dogs gives him a game after that.

 

[fnordius]

The Wizards, however, are terrifying. Losing to the Thunder, when they are without Durant and Green? Not good, not good at all.

Arena's incurable hangnail has been a concern all season, but I think you give OKC too little credit, they've been improving greatly the last month or so. Yes, the Wizards lost, by 7, to the injury-depleted Thunder in OKC, but those same injury-depleted Thunder had won by 9, in Dallas, just 2 nights before. I'm not sure that there's anything OKC's owners could do to make them tank very successfully through the end of the season, they're too hungry, and learning too fast.

Just the same, I agree about Washington. Unless Arenas is angry with the owners and forces himself back onto the court in the next few weeks, they will surely tank away what's left of the season. Being an EC team, they have few punching bags on their schedule, the 2nd worst team in the EC, Toronto, is at .371, which would make them 7th worst if they were in the WC. That makes tanking very, very easy for Washington.

 

[fnordius]

Do not underestimate the Wolves -- they have completely collapsed without Jefferson, and are fully coapable of ending up wiht only 19-20 wins. This is an experienced team at sucking, and one fo the best tanking crews in the business too. If we make the mistake of going out and wing 2 in a row or something, they are back in play.

And sterling may have just destroyed any chacne for the Clipeprs to go on any sort of late seaosn run by bitching them out in the locker room after the Spurs game. There is no way that group of cancerous dogs gives him a game after that.

The Clips do worry me, and Sterling's explosion is likely to make them even more pathetic than before, which is truly mind-boggling. But Minnesota, not so much. They have 18 wins already, and this month they have home games against Washington, Memphis, NY, Charlotte, NJ and OKC. Plus, their last game of the year is a home game against the Kings. Linning all of those will be a challenge. We will see, but, with a 5 woss lead, I'm not alarmed yet.

 

[jalfa]

Arena's incurable hangnail has been a concern all season, but I think you give OKC too little credit, they've been improving greatly the last month or so. Yes, the Wizards lost, by 7, to the injury-depleted Thunder in OKC, but those same injury-depleted Thunder had won by 9, in Dallas, just 2 nights before. I'm not sure that there's anything OKC's owners could do to make them tank very successfully through the end of the season, they're too hungry, and learning too fast.

Admittedly, I was not actually aware of the fact that the Thunder didn't field Green in that game. And you are totally right, the Thunder are pretty impressive since Brooks became the headcoach. Makes you wonder what he would've done instead of Musselman.

As for the Wolves: One thing that makes them less of a candidate for me, besides the fact that they seem so far out of the picture, is that their owner apparently wants the fans to stay. The ticket prices were just heavily decreased and there were some statements uttered, about how everything revolves around the fan. I'd think it's counter-intuitive to do such things and then not at least try to be competitive at home.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Hey, I look at it like this: If we only get 1 more win the rest of the way and it's against the Lakers April 7th, that's perfect!

 

[Spike]

Hey, I look at it like this: If we only get 1 more win the rest of the way and it's against the Lakers April 7th, that's perfect!

This is the correct answer.