[NBA] West Playoffs, Round One
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It was absolutely necessary. A good conversation entails asking many questions to get to the root of the issue or reasoning. You may not like it but I assure you, it will continue on my part and you can continue to comment and make your comments like you have the other two times and we'll continue to move on.
Maybe. But here's the thing: only one of us in interested in having a "good conversation" about Karl-Anthony Towns (hint: it's not me). Therefore, I'm not going to be doing any more of your homework for you. I don't really care if you can't "figure out" why I don't like Towns. As far as I'm concerned, it's not a riddle for you to solve. If you want to try and solve it, anyway, you're going to have to do so without my cooperation.
My original point if not well stated was that big men who are drafted high are still expected to play defense or they are widely regarded as busts. Which is why when 2018 gets redrafted, the year of "the return of the big man" only JJJ and maybe Ayton crack the top 10. Either way Ayton is in the bottom five of that list not in the top 4, which now seems to be set at Luka, Shai, Brunson and JJJ (and sometimes Trae).
It wasn't a conversation on opinions, it was a question of fact. When did KAT change his approach to shooting (more 3's, or whatever). It isn't something to be "reasoned", it is like asking when was the last lunar eclipse in the US. You keep asking people to look up factual information that you are just too lazy to look up yourself. And folks are getting more and more tired of it.
Peppering people with constant questions isn’t a conversation. It’s grilling them. Especially when the info is easy to find and you are too lazy to even try to contribute.
A better “conversation” with Slim on this would be something like: I noticed what you said about KAT’s shot selection. It looks like around 20xx he really started shooting more 3’s (or whatever) and then include some info on what the data shows, then follow up with any question on interpretation of that data you think Slim might be able to answer.
I don’t know if he would, but at least you are trying to participate in a meaningful way in the conversation.
Get it yet?
You are like the kid in the back seat of the car that keeps repeating the same question over and over again, ad nauseum, that doesn’t actually contribute most of the time.
There’s a give and take to conversion. You often dip into the “all take” without providing anything of substance (the “give” portion).
A better “conversation” with Slim on this would be something like: I noticed what you said about KAT’s shot selection. It looks like around 20xx he really started shooting more 3’s (or whatever) and then include some info on what the data shows, then follow up with any question on interpretation of that data you think Slim might be able to answer.
I don’t know if he would, but at least you are trying to participate in a meaningful way in the conversation.
Get it yet?
You are like the kid in the back seat of the car that keeps repeating the same question over and over again, ad nauseum, that doesn’t actually contribute most of the time.
There’s a give and take to conversion. You often dip into the “all take” without providing anything of substance (the “give” portion).
the way I view a conversation and the way you do is different and that's completely fine. You telling me how it is from your perspective is simply incorrect. If multiple questions agitate you, you can always decline to carry on and we move on from there. Kids are simply curious, which is why they ask questions. Nothing wrong with that. Open up your realm of the world to new perspectives, you'd be much more willing to converse then.
I feel this way often when I have conversations with @kingsboi. I appreciate maybe he doesn't know and is sincere asking questions but after 3 or 4 rounds I have to bow out.
I don't want to discourage someone from having a sincere conversation but some self awareness wouldn't hurt. If someone says your conversation style is fatiguing ask yourself if they have a point and see if you can adapt.
I don't want to discourage someone from having a sincere conversation but some self awareness wouldn't hurt. If someone says your conversation style is fatiguing ask yourself if they have a point and see if you can adapt.
I mean we always joke about the unrealistic trade proposals Lakers fans always post on social media but I can’t blame them.
They got Hachimura, Dlo, Vanderbilt, Beasley, and Bamba. 2 valuable starters, 2 high level rotation players who can be starters, and a prospect for virtually no value whatsoever.
we were laughing that they thought they could get anything for Kendrick Nunn. No other team would get Rui for a player of Kendrick Nunn’s level. They’ve been as good as anybody since they unloaded 2 reserve players everybody knew they didn’t want. They completely remade their team on Westbrook and Nunn and a draft pick a half decade away.
I know I’ve said it a billion times already but you can’t tell me there wasn’t some level of collusion for the purpose of bolstering the Lakers. Utah could’ve got more for Vanderbilt. Washington could’ve got more for Hachimura. Basically, D-Lo and Beasley is the most the outgoing value should’ve netted the Lakers
They got Hachimura, Dlo, Vanderbilt, Beasley, and Bamba. 2 valuable starters, 2 high level rotation players who can be starters, and a prospect for virtually no value whatsoever.
we were laughing that they thought they could get anything for Kendrick Nunn. No other team would get Rui for a player of Kendrick Nunn’s level. They’ve been as good as anybody since they unloaded 2 reserve players everybody knew they didn’t want. They completely remade their team on Westbrook and Nunn and a draft pick a half decade away.
I know I’ve said it a billion times already but you can’t tell me there wasn’t some level of collusion for the purpose of bolstering the Lakers. Utah could’ve got more for Vanderbilt. Washington could’ve got more for Hachimura. Basically, D-Lo and Beasley is the most the outgoing value should’ve netted the Lakers
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