how come the media says jimmer was just brought here to sell tickets?

#1
so hes a good fit for everyone else but us?
we needed a pg and hes the best scoring pg to be in the draft.

why does the media keep saying jimmer wasnt brought here to be our pg but to sell tickets?

so every other team but us can have him? or is it just because were the kings?
 
#2
the more you worry about what the media has to say, the faster you're gonna die

I can honestly can give two ****s about what the media has to say. Just because they have a media source to voice their OPINIONS, doesn't make them any more right than you, me, or any other human being.
 
#3
why do you even listen to the media. he's a good fit for our team. i see him play a james harden type role for our team. a guy who can hit big shots and make plays.
 
#6
The Maloofs are in money troubles. The team almost moved to Anaheim. Jimmer has the biggest following of any player in the draft. He has already got the Kings national media attention. I can't think of another #10 pick who hasn't played a NBA game that has done that. He will increase ticket sales at the start of season. Of course, if the team doesn't win then this all goes to hell, but in the meantime, Jimmer was the biggest fan draw in the draft taken by the team and ownership most needing an influx of money and sales. It really shouldn't be hard to figure out why people think that.

Like you said, he was a scoring PG. He'll have to adjust his game drastically for this team from what he was doing in college. He fits, but the team needed a vet PG more. What Jimmer lacks in experience he makes up for in national attention.
 
#8
Funny, I just logged on to post a similar thread- except my question is, Where does this idea that Jimmer can sell tickets come from?

Are there that many mormons in Sacramento?

Does the media think drafting a white guy = instant tickets?

Did he do some great part time work for the BYU alumni association and is he going to put in some time with the marketing department?
 
#9
He was brought here to help win games right away because he's probably the most polished player in the draft. Winning games sells tickets. In that sense he was brought here to sell tickets.
 
#10
Funny, I just logged on to post a similar thread- except my question is, Where does this idea that Jimmer can sell tickets come from?

Are there that many mormons in Sacramento?

Does the media think drafting a white guy = instant tickets?

Did he do some great part time work for the BYU alumni association and is he going to put in some time with the marketing department?

Have you not been paying attention to the media coverage during the NCAA season? Before/during/after the Draft? The interest in Jimmer is not limited to mormons. He is extremely marketable and will definitely help sell tickets.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#11
I've been a bit puzzled aobut the Jimmer hype, but I do think some of it is a throwback to the way things used to be. Most young NBA fans have never really expereienced the phenomenon of college kids coming in with huge hype/reputation/followings, but back in the old days when guys stayed 4 years and already had famous career arcs before even hitting the NBA, this sort of thing was much more common. I've always thought that was a huge benefit to the NBA that they lost when guys started coming straight out of high school -- basically a ton of free publicity and getting to welcome already famous players into their league before they even had to lift a marketing finger. Think some of that may be why Stern has been trying to slowly push the entry age limit back up.
 
#12
I've been a bit puzzled aobut the Jimmer hype, but I do think some of it is a throwback to the way things used to be. Most young NBA fans have never really expereienced the phenomenon of college kids coming in with huge hype/reputation/followings, but back in the old days when guys stayed 4 years and already had famous career arcs before even hitting the NBA, this sort of thing was much more common. I've always thought that was a huge benefit to the NBA that they lost when guys started coming straight out of high school -- basically a ton of free publicity and getting to welcome already famous players into their league before they even had to lift a marketing finger. Think some of that may be why Stern has been trying to slowly push the entry age limit back up.
I remember when Pistol Pete Maravich came out of LSU after 4 year collegiate career that saw him average 44 pts a game, leading the nation every year. There was incredible buzz as he suited up for his first game with the Atlanta Hawks. Several of his NBA rookie season games were televised back when there was just one game on the boob tube each weekend during the season. He was rather mediocre his first couple of years in the league even though a starting 6'5" SG (or combo). It was Pistol Pete's third year that he exploded with a 26 pt 7 assist average and then he was off and running with several all-star appearaces, leading NBA in scoring one year at 31.1 and top 5 scorer many times over his career. His scoring and how he did it was only part of it as Maravich was the greatest ball handler ever - period. Even Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas and others have said he was the greatest dribbler, most incredible passer, overall amazing showman they ever saw. Jimmer Fredette is clearly not another Pistol Pete, except for scoring the ball, neither known for D, but it feels a bit similar coming into the NBA with all the hype. So, MAYBE we'll see Jimmer "explode" in about 3 years - sooner would be nice.
 
#13
Funny, I just logged on to post a similar thread- except my question is, Where does this idea that Jimmer can sell tickets come from?

Are there that many mormons in Sacramento?

Does the media think drafting a white guy = instant tickets?

Did he do some great part time work for the BYU alumni association and is he going to put in some time with the marketing department?
The Mormon Church is an incredibly united, cohesive, organized marketing force. Do you know any other religions that have that many TV ads?

They have taken Jimmer to be a spokesperson of theirs. They view him as doing missionary work. You hear phrases coming out like "he makes believers out of non believers". The "Jimmer Mania" is in part fueled by that machine. And they have a LOT of money. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing. And I love Jimmer. Love his attitude, maturity, leadership.

I have no doubt that the major leaders of the mormon church have had extensive conversations with this young man about his future as a mormon icon and celebrity, and the positive work that would do for the church. He's naturally media friendly, and the Mormon Church of course recognizes that. With a straight face, I would bet some even view him as a gift from God to grow the Mormon Church.

Make no mistake, there is BIG money behind Jimmer mania.
 
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bajaden

Hall of Famer
#14
I remember when Pistol Pete Maravich came out of LSU after 4 year collegiate career that saw him average 44 pts a game, leading the nation every year. There was incredible buzz as he suited up for his first game with the Atlanta Hawks. Several of his NBA rookie season games were televised back when there was just one game on the boob tube each weekend during the season. He was rather mediocre his first couple of years in the league even though a starting 6'5" SG (or combo). It was Pistol Pete's third year that he exploded with a 26 pt 7 assist average and then he was off and running with several all-star appearaces, leading NBA in scoring one year at 31.1 and top 5 scorer many times over his career. His scoring and how he did it was only part of it as Maravich was the greatest ball handler ever - period. Even Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas and others have said he was the greatest dribbler, most incredible passer, overall amazing showman they ever saw. Jimmer Fredette is clearly not another Pistol Pete, except for scoring the ball, neither known for D, but it feels a bit similar coming into the NBA with all the hype. So, MAYBE we'll see Jimmer "explode" in about 3 years - sooner would be nice.
Pistol Pete was one of the best players I ever saw play the game. Damm shame he was never on a good team. The only player that ever reminded me of Pete when it came to ballhandling was our very own J. Will when he first arrived here. Pete always looked as though he had the ball on a rubberband. Just an amazing ballhandler. As for Fredette and all the hype. Don't know if you saw him play at all this year, but he and Kemba were probably the two most intertaining players to watch. Both guys just created electricity in the air when they played. The fans loved them. Both guys made a lot of game winning shots, with Jimmer's halfcourt shot being one of the most famous. So there was a lot of hype with both players, and there's no doubt BYU certainly played it up.

And when there was a build up to a national game, both players rose to the occasion and put on a show. I know this is about Jimmer, but I think Walker got just as much national hype as Fredette did. Its just that Fredette's was less expected, and therefore, more was made of it.
 

Spike

Subsidiary Intermediary
Staff member
#17
Dude. Don't listen to Colin Cowherd. His point is to pull-hair and get people angered. He's the one trumpeting the purely marketing angle. Maybe he's still mad that Fredette and BYU ripped apart Gonzaga in the tourney.

Also, knowing some people who have worked for ESPN (college fb) - they're given a specific agenda from upstairs and told to run with it. Do you wonder why they almost to a T always say the same thing? Being a "national" sports station means you don't have the ability to know everything there is to know about each team, so you just make assumptions, or go with what everyone else is saying.

When it comes to Sacramento, they've been wrong the past two years. Sorry for your pain.
 
#22
The mods won't allow a religious debate. It's a sensitive subject. Same reasons there are no political debates allowed either.
Why did you start one then? Man now I'm going to be in dutch with the mods for promoting a heretical film and causing a religious disturbance... and I was on a roll there for a while no infractions or suspensions or bannings for a couple years in row. Thanks a LOT pal.

Jimmer: brought to sell tickets... most assuredly so and so what I'd do the same thing if I were calling the shots. Nothing wrong with selling tickets.
 
#23
I made a comment. You want a whole thread dedicated to it. The mods won't give you an infraction for the last couple of comments. Unless they were really out of line, which they weren't. I'm just saying they won't allow a thread for it.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#24
As long as he doesn't suddenly decide to take off on one of their 2 year missions, Jimmer's religion hopefully should not be an issue in Sactown. Now if he starts distributing LDS pamphlets around the locker room, we've got a problem. Until then, really not worth focusing on.
 
#25
Do you guys have any idea how many Mormons live in the greater Sacramento area? I drive about 15 miles from Granite Bay to Rescue to see my parents and pass 3 Mormon churches on that route. There is also a temple in Folsom.

I am sure that is what the media is alluding to, without actually coming out and saying it.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#26
As long as he doesn't suddenly decide to take off on one of their 2 year missions, Jimmer's religion hopefully should not be an issue in Sactown. Now if he starts distributing LDS pamphlets around the locker room, we've got a problem. Until then, really not worth focusing on.
I think the two year mission is mandatory and he will have to go. Certainly there is someone here that knows the facts of this.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#27
I think the two year mission is mandatory and he will have to go. Certainly there is someone here that knows the facts of this.
I don't remember Steve Young taking off on any two year missions. I seriously doubt that Fredette will either. Does anyone seriously think the Kings would have drafted someone that would have to go over to africa and build houses for a couple of years? Normally those missions occur while the student is at college. Thats why so many graduates are 24 years old at graduation. I'm not sure how close his ties are to the Mormon church. His father is Mormon, but his mother is catholic.
 
#28
I think the two year mission is mandatory and he will have to go. Certainly there is someone here that knows the facts of this.
I'm not an expert on LDS but have had couple friends or co-workers over the years who were members of the church. They don't make 2 yr missonary travel (stateside and overseas) an absolute requirement as it's considered a personal decision. There's peer pressure as most church members do it in early to mid 20s, although others wait until later. Often celebrity Mormans "get out of it" to serve in other ways. A few that did not go include, Donny and Marie Osmond, Steve Young, and some other famous types.
 
#29
Missions aren't a requirement, young men ages 19-26 are encouraged to go. 26 is the upper age limit (until married and retired). I'm Mormon, a basketball fan, and a BYU Alum and I don't think having Jimmer on the Kings makes me any more likely to go see a game.