darko is on record as wanting to go back to europe. his ego has taken more of a hit than his future salary. Now, I would take Beasley in a heartbeat. Just make sure he plays SF. He would be a matchup nightmare if he lives up to his potential. Not like Noc or Garcia are getting anybody excited. This is of course, if he is mentally ok. I just think he hasn't had the right guidiance
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NME
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This post should be filed in the "getting old" HOF.
Hey, at least I was a school kid twenty years ago and it wasn't: "I remember it well, because my youngest daughter had just finished her Master's Degree."
Chupacabra
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I can think of one good selling point to convince Beasley on going to northern california lol
bajaden
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This post should be filed in the "getting old" HOF.
I was just starting to feel good again and you had to go and remind me of my ultimate destiny...
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AriesMar27
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ya know..... How far is Humboldt county from Sacramento? i'm sure brad miller and webber knew...
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AriesMar27
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i know.... trust me i know.
Telemachus
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Big Cuz 15
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u know all this trouble this guy is facing reminds me of that ex houston rockets player that was going thru issues. that eventually got himself killed on the train tracks. can't think of the guys name but uhh hell no, keep those kind of players away from our young nucleus
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Eddie Griffin...R.I.P.
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I'd take the kid, he's a beast. People have got this all wrong. Don't get carried away, take him if he's available.
Do not forget this kid was the #2 pick just 2 drafts ago. We don't have to wait to suck badly again, or tank games to have a chance on such a high pick. He is just 20-years old. If Obama was able to get away from drugs, I'm pretty sure this kid can with professional help.
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You tell that to my now dead best friend. There are people with adictive personalities. My friend was one of them. I came home one day many years ago when we shared an apartment together and found my TV and other things gone. I thought I had been robbed. I was wrong. My friend had sold them in order to buy drugs. Two years later he was dead from an OD. I could tell you countless stories about him and his drugie friends, but the anger in me starts to come back. Let me just say that if you take any drug use lightly, then your playing with yourself.
If Beasley is involved in drug use, then I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. I don't care how talented he is. I wish him well, but let some other team take a chance on him. The Kings are in no position to be taking that kind of risk right now, especially with such a young team.
How do you know people "have got this all wrong"? Sorry, but I firmly believe there are way too many warning signs to ignore. The potential for disaster is simply not worth it to a team that is trying desperately to rebuild and go forward.
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AriesMar27
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thats true, i know many, many drug addicts and its not a situation you take lightly... we dont know how serious the issue is but where theres smoke there is usually fire. maybe its just weed, maybe it isnt; we dont know yet. but i hope he can get through this and become a great basketball player.
I think he couldn't be that worse as your friend was. He just had a relatively good rookie year and a good college basketball year before that.
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AriesMar27
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the jazz waited 2 years for kirilenko... he played out his contract then came to the nba. pau gasol had a 2.5 million buyout but he was the 3rd pick in the draft and could afford to pay it. remeber raul lopez? okay, bad example...
darko's buyout was lowered from 10 million to 4 million then spread out over 6 years. but his team still pimped him out during the summer.... he was their spokesperson for the pharmaceutical company that owned the team.
the only way that rubio plays in the nba this season is if dkv lets him pay off the buyout over a longer period of time like 5 years.... even then that would be a lot since the 5th pick doesnt make that much. he would still be paying 1 million a year, how much does the 5th pick get paid? 2 million a season....
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bajaden
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Well according to what I've read, Evans is starting at 3.6 mil. So I would assume that the 5th pick would be close to 3 mil a year. I'm not sure what the graduated rate is..
This is the Beasley thread. I think he was talking about drug problems, not contract buyouts.
Umm, there are definitely some bad stories about the NBA and drug use, Len Bias only on tragic story. I don't know about successes, but somehow they're easier to forget. Chris Andersen may count, as he washed out of the league due to drugs and made his way back...
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AriesMar27
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lol, i had 2 tabs open when i was posting that... i so wasnt paying attenetion. the weed made me do it.
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AriesMar27
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Well according to what I've read, Evans is starting at 3.6 mil. So I would assume that the 5th pick would be close to 3 mil a year. I'm not sure what the graduated rate is..
i know that threads do tend to get off topic but you replied to my post like there wasnt anything wrong with it. luckily someone caught it because i wouldve replied to you about something that was totally off topic....
but drugs are bad, m'kay.....
Well according to what I've read, Evans is starting at 3.6 mil. So I would assume that the 5th pick would be close to 3 mil a year. I'm not sure what the graduated rate is..
With the acknowledgment that this is off topic, this link goes to an NBA Players Association page that has the rookie salary scale information from '05-'06 to '11-'12 (I know the CBA expires in the summer of 2011, so I don't know if the '11-'12 figures are in stone).
The short answer is that Rubio's base salary would be $2.724M, but since he could be signed up to 120% of the base figure his max salary for this year would be $3.27M.
bajaden
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It wouldn't be the first time a thread went off topic me thinks... I was going to guess around 3.2 mil but wasn't sure.. Besides, I figured you would pop up with the answer..
I was going to guess around 3.2 mil but wasn't sure.. Besides, I figured you would pop up with the answer..
I would hate to disappoint! But hold on to that link, it's useful!
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AriesMar27
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wow....
This rehab stuff reportedly all stems from the rookie symposium deal last season where he got caught in a room with a couple of other rooks and some weed. No one is sure whether or not he got caught again after that, or whether just the symposium deal was enough to get him to agree to rehab.
Either way this is supposedly all about marijuana, which is far less addictive than "hard drugs". There are people in the league right now who have admitted to smoking it in the offseason, and many more who haven't admitted it and get away with it.
Beasley has made some poor and immature decisions, but he is a 19-20 year old guy that suddenly got a ton of cash and a high profile job. Not all players know how to deal with that, some take longer than others. Up until the rehab story broke, no one had anything but praise for him working extremely hard this offseason.
Also, the Heat aren't going to sell Beasley for any fire sale price whatsoever because of this. Not yet anyway. You generally don't trade a player at their lowest value without giving them a chance in actual games to redeem that value. They will see what happens this season first, then re-evaluate after they see who they are able to sign next offseason with their cap room.
Either way this is supposedly all about marijuana, which is far less addictive than "hard drugs". There are people in the league right now who have admitted to smoking it in the offseason, and many more who haven't admitted it and get away with it.
Beasley has made some poor and immature decisions, but he is a 19-20 year old guy that suddenly got a ton of cash and a high profile job. Not all players know how to deal with that, some take longer than others. Up until the rehab story broke, no one had anything but praise for him working extremely hard this offseason.
Also, the Heat aren't going to sell Beasley for any fire sale price whatsoever because of this. Not yet anyway. You generally don't trade a player at their lowest value without giving them a chance in actual games to redeem that value. They will see what happens this season first, then re-evaluate after they see who they are able to sign next offseason with their cap room.
bajaden
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The dangerous part of this theory is that he may not be at his lowest value point yet. I hope so for his sake and for the teams sake. But there are no guarantee's. Anyone remember Roy Tarpley?
Well, yeah, but I also remember Chris Webber. If all we were talking about was smoking weed, that would USUALLY only be a worry if he managed to get himself suspended for it. But we're talking about someone who seems to have everything going for him -- being young, healthy, rich and famous -- and yet he's seriously depressed. That makes me wonder whether any drug-related stuff were an attempt at self-medication, rather than the equivalent of a couple of beers after work. And, for me, that DOES set the alarms off. I've seen too many people go off the deep end that way, and, while none of them ended up dying of overdoses, some spent years in mental institutions, or committed suicide. There are NO street drugs which are effective at treating depression, or any other psychiatric sort of issue.
He doesn't fill any major need on our roster, so I see no reason to try to pick him up at fire sale prices while he's still on fire. Pass.
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