How are the Kings going to move Kenny Thomas?

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Here is my burning TDOS question: How are the Kings going to move Kenny Thomas? In my opinion, he is a puzzle piece that needs to be moved. I see him as inconsistent, in a contract bad for the team, and a head case (e.g. he can play well when starting, but not off the bench). But who can the Kings trade him for? Certainly he will need to be packaged, but I would hate to lose a bunch more players just to move him.

There must be other players that are "must moves" this offseason like Kenyon Martin that may provide an opportunity for the Kings to find a player that did not fit in somewhere else for KT, the King that does not fit.

Any ideas?
 
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Here are my realgm approved scenarios so far:

Kenny Thomas to Washington for Etan Thomas.

Kenny Thomas to Seattle for Danny Fortson.
 
Bricklayer

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He's just not a major enough player to have this much angst about No Bonus. ;)


P.S. And Danny Fortson would be one of those asking for it type moves. You move KT because you're worried about him being disruptive and bring back...Danny Fortson? :eek:
 
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Kings113

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Yeah I don't know about Fortson at all...

I like moving KT/Hart to Minny for Griffin/Jaric or Hudson. Wolves have said a number of times they want a rebounder to help KG

Then go sign Elson or Cato (he'll be rehabbing his ankle) for back-up C.

Or trying to get Magloire or Gadzuric w/ Bell for KT/Hart.
 
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Bricklayer said:
He's just not a major enough player to have this much angst about No Bonus. ;)


P.S. And Danny Fortson would be one of those asking for it type moves. You move KT because you're worried about him being disruptive and bring back...Danny Fortson? :eek:
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I don't hate the guy, I just see him as a move needing to be made... however, I may have gone overboard suggesting we trade him for Fortson.
 
Warhawk

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KT, Corliss, and Pot for KG? Heck, I'd throw in Hart if they asked nicely....

Not sure how the salaries line up, but I'm sure GP can pull his Jedi mind tricks on that one to make it work, right? :)
 
HndsmCelt

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KT's contract will be very very hard to move and will no doubt have to part of a package just like we got him. Fortson is not the answer unless the question is how do we assure total team meltdown in 2007.
 
LPKingsFan

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Some options that come to mind:

To the NETS for Cliff's expring deal.

Geoff almost shipped him off to the BUCKS before, and may be able to do so yet, depending on how the Magloire situation goes down there.

Shipping him to the KNICKS for Crawford would get the Kings their combo 1/2 guard.

And of course, my favorite is to the WIZARDS for Etan Thomas. But why do the Wiz do it?
 
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kpm308

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How about a trade to Houston for Swift and a throw in (Bowen, Lampe?)

Thomas would fit very well for Houston in the Juwan Howard role and Kenny seems to play better in an offense like Van Gundy's where the majority of the plays are set plays called from the bench, rather than read/recognition offense that he has struggled with since being here. His lack of size can kinda be hidden with Yao and McGrady both being tall.

Swift would bring us a shotblocker and decent rebounder off the bench, which is what we've been needing, and he doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, he gets most of his points on hustle plays/putbacks. He was a disapointment in Houston and never really fit in. The good thing about this trade for the Kings is that Musselman was an assistant in Memphis with Swift, so he will understand what needs to be done to make Swift effective, and I think if we could get Swift playing at the level he was in Memphis it would be worth trading away KT to be able to bring Swift off the bench to swat at some balls and hang out around the rim.
 
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kpm308 said:
How about a trade to Houston for Swift and a throw in (Bowen, Lampe?)

Thomas would fit very well for Houston in the Juwan Howard role and Kenny seems to play better in an offense like Van Gundy's where the majority of the plays are set plays called from the bench, rather than read/recognition offense that he has struggled with since being here. His lack of size can kinda be hidden with Yao and McGrady both being tall.

Swift would bring us a shotblocker and decent rebounder off the bench, which is what we've been needing, and he doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, he gets most of his points on hustle plays/putbacks. He was a disapointment in Houston and never really fit in. The good thing about this trade for the Kings is that Musselman was an assistant in Memphis with Swift, so he will understand what needs to be done to make Swift effective, and I think if we could get Swift playing at the level he was in Memphis it would be worth trading away KT to be able to bring Swift off the bench to swat at some balls and hang out around the rim.
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That's the ticket!
 
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master said:
Some options:

McInnis+Cliff Robinson
Juwan Howard
Danny Fortson
Joe Smith
Etan Thomas
Eric Snow
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Maybe on first.

Probably on Howard.

No on Fortson.

Yes on Smith

Yes on Etan

Yes on Snow.

I also can dig the Swift deal.
 
VF21

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The problem isn't going to be finding suitable candidates that we'd like to replace Kenny with. It's going to be convincing/mesmerizing the general manager at the OTHER end of the line that acquiring a contract that stretches to 2010 is a good thing. Especially considering KT's performances fluctuations.
 
HndsmCelt

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Yup, bottom line is that IF the Kings are going to get rid of Kenny they wil have to essentially have to pay someone to take take him. What this means is he becoms a throw in in a deal for one of the Kings more desireable playes. I would love to see him go but when the deal goes down and the Kings have to give up say Bonzi or Kevin Martin lets not hear too much complaint that Petrie should have gotten better for the OTHER guy in the deal. Fact is Kenny's contract is the preverbal albatross aarround the Kings neck.
 
pdxKingsFan

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Or we can take on someone else's bad contract and hope that the change of scenery does some good. Isn't that pretty much what the Swift deal would be? Its not like Kenny sucks, he's just not a great fit for us with the weaknesses we already have and a superior offensive player competing for his spot.
 
HndsmCelt

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pdxKingsFan said:
Or we can take on someone else's bad contract and hope that the change of scenery does some good. Isn't that pretty much what the Swift deal would be? Its not like Kenny sucks, he's just not a great fit for us with the weaknesses we already have and a superior offensive player competing for his spot.
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Exactlly... might swap over paid role player for over paid roll player and come out a little better but no way do we trade Kenny solo for much, and even in a package Kings will have to work the deal.
 
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VF21 said:
The problem isn't going to be finding suitable candidates that we'd like to replace Kenny with. It's going to be convincing/mesmerizing the general manager at the OTHER end of the line that acquiring a contract that stretches to 2010 is a good thing. Especially considering KT's performances fluctuations.
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The Kings did almost get Desmond Mason for KT, which I would have considered a steal. Plus, Isiah Thomas is still a GM in the NBA, so no player is untradable when you're dealing with the Knicks.
 
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Other than Frye/Lee who would we like? I like Nate Robinson but we already got Ronnie Price suited to begin real time with the Kings.

I think we could get Lee, who had a solid rookie year and would suit what we need from a big, just not a shot-blocker. Jamal Crawford would be great if we lose Bonzi, replace his spot in the rotation, while Kevin could start.
 
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I cannot calculate the exact salary.

However, I think Bucks and Hawks may need KT.

I prefer trade with Hawks, both because they'll lose Al Harrington or/and Pachulia this summer, and because they have attractive players. IMO, Tyrone Lue and Salim Stoudermire will be good to Kings. Especially Salim. I think him very highly, and he's a young B-Jax, or more explosive.

And... maybe they'll show interests in Jason Hart, because they badly need a PG, who can support Joe Johnson.

Hawks' roster is so odd, just full of atheletic swingmen. So they may be interested in Corliss and Potapenko, too
 
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kpm308 said:
How about a trade to Houston for Swift and a throw in (Bowen, Lampe?)

Thomas would fit very well for Houston in the Juwan Howard role and Kenny seems to play better in an offense like Van Gundy's where the majority of the plays are set plays called from the bench, rather than read/recognition offense that he has struggled with since being here. His lack of size can kinda be hidden with Yao and McGrady both being tall.

Swift would bring us a shotblocker and decent rebounder off the bench, which is what we've been needing, and he doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, he gets most of his points on hustle plays/putbacks. He was a disapointment in Houston and never really fit in. The good thing about this trade for the Kings is that Musselman was an assistant in Memphis with Swift, so he will understand what needs to be done to make Swift effective, and I think if we could get Swift playing at the level he was in Memphis it would be worth trading away KT to be able to bring Swift off the bench to swat at some balls and hang out around the rim.
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Swift would be nice, but only if we can get Luther Head also.

Bibby Head:D
 
walker60

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Sac gets:
E. Thomas
A. Daniels
C. Booth
#18 pick

Washington gets:
Bonzi
KT
J.Hart

Wizards need a SG really bad, we get a backup C and PG who both play defense. We could release Booth, he's just a throw in to make they salaries match. Would we want to do this? Think the Wiz would bite?
 
walker60

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Ya maybe we could take picks 18 and 19 to trade up high enough and get S. Williams. Him and SAR would be a nice 1-2 punch at PF. Just some thoughts...
 
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walker60 said:
Sac gets:
E. Thomas
A. Daniels
C. Booth
#18 pick

Washington gets:
Bonzi
KT
J.Hart

Wizards need a SG really bad, we get a backup C and PG who both play defense. We could release Booth, he's just a throw in to make they salaries match. Would we want to do this? Think the Wiz would bite?
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That deal is friggin awesome. Like people said hopefully we could trade 18+19 for a higher pick and grab SHAWNE WILLIAMS! lol But seriously the guy is insanely talented.
 
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