Hornets Trade Darrell Armstrong To Dallas

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December 3, 2004
Hornets Trade Darrell Armstrong To Dallas

Dickau
New Orleans - The Hornets have acquired guard Dan Dickau and a 2005 second round draft pick from the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for guard Darrell Armstrong.

“This move helps our team by letting Junior Harrington and Alex Garcia see more playing time,” said Hornets General Manager Allan Bristow. “We see bright futures for both of them and feel very comfortable with them receiving more minutes and continuing to develop.”

Armstrong, who was signed by the Hornets as a free agent on July 29, 2003, averaged 10.6 points and 4.0 assists in 93 total games for the team. He averaged 10.1 points and 4.6 points in 14 games this season.

“I’ve been very impressed with Junior and Alex and they’ve earned this opportunity,” said Hornets Head Coach Byron Scott. “Darrell is a true professional and a great veteran, but he is approaching the end of his career and this move will benefit the Hornets.”

Dickau had appeared in four games with the Mavericks this season, averaging 1.3 points in 4.0 minutes. The 6-0 guard has also played in Atlanta and Portland and holds career averages of 2.9 points and 1.3 assists in 97 games.

“This trade is a great example of how we will continue to make every effort to improve our team,” said Hornets Majority Owner George Shinn. “I’m confident that Allan and his staff are doing everything possible to make our organization better both at present and in the future.”


http://www.nba.com/hornets/news/dickau_trade041203.html

 

[iheartBrad]

yeah i was flippin by NBA TV and read that on the bottomline....

i bet he's feelin a little bit of relief even IF he does have to pick up and move

 

[LPKingsFan]

?

Unless he demanded a trade, I don't get it. Darrell is a solid energy role player, this could be big because Dallas is essentially getting him for nothing and perhaps he could provide some of the spark lost when they traded away Van Exel.

The Hornets must already be giving up on the season and hoping there's some good draft pick out there that they can rest their hopes on.

 

[Evilmav2]

This is a darned good trade for the Mavs, but the one worrisome aspect about it for me, is that bringing Armstrong on board will almost certainly end up curtailing Devin Harris' minutes and development. Nellie was heard on radio today saying that after making this move he was going to "put the rookie on ice", and I can't imagine that will necessarily be a good influence on the learning curve of the reigning Western conference rookie of the month (he won it by default- all the good rooks are out East)...

That said, this move should really help to rectify the Mavs currently dire dearth of playmaking production (Terry and Harris are averaging a combined 6 apg, and we rank next to last place in the league in total assists, even while our points per game ranks as a respectable #8), and I am definitely excited to see just what kind of an impact Darryl Armstrong's energy, playing savvy, and fiery attitude will have with this sometimes complacent 04-05 Mavs squad...

 

[Bricklayer]

I'm sorry, but why exactly did Dallas just trade for an 8th guard?

Let's see, already onboard are Jason Terry, Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, Mike Finley and Marquis Daniels. But yeah, now what we really need is Darrell Armstrong so he can grab those all important Tony Delk 5 min a game.

 

[Insomniacal Fan]

Perhaps the Mavs predict guards will be a valuable commodity in the future.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

poor dan dickau
he was moved once again..
what was it? sacramento > atlanta > portland > golden state > dallas > new orleans...
the guy hasn't even got an extension yet :/
another couple of teams and he'll be around the league

 

[4cwebb]

I'm sorry, but why exactly did Dallas just trade for an 8th guard?

Let's see, already onboard are Jason Terry, Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, Mike Finley and Marquis Daniels. But yeah, now what we really need is Darrell Armstrong so he can grab those all important Tony Delk 5 min a game.

My guess is because, as EvilMav points out, none of the other "guards" on the Mavs roster are pass-first PGs. I'm too lazy to look up whether Armstrong has ever averaged a respectable number of assists over his seasons as a starter, but he's almost got to be a better passer by default than the PGs on the Mavs current roster. Not to mention that injuries have hurt the Mavs in this early portion of the season, and Armstrong is relatively durable, if nothing else.

 

[Evilmav2]

Exactly, 4cwebb. This move was made because the two-headed Harris/Terry point guard combination has just not passing the ball very well. As Nelson said in today's Dallas Morning News"

Have you been watching the last week? He [Harris] needs to get more assists. All our point guards do. It's easy to say. It's not easy to do.

Of course, I think that that both Terry and (especially) Harris will become more effective passers and playmakers as they continue to become accustomed to the Nelson offense, but I would bet that their inconsistency over the last couple of weeks has been driving the Big Nelson to distraction, and that's almost certainly why my Mavs pulled the trigger on this deal.

Now, Darrell Armstrong might just end up being an empty aquisition (like Scott Williams was last year), but I've always been impressed by the fire of the former CBA MVP, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the little man play himself into a role as a consistent 10-20 mpg contributer for my Mavs (as Harris gets "put on ice")...

 

[Bricklayer]

My guess is because, as EvilMav points out, none of the other "guards" on the Mavs roster are pass-first PGs. I'm too lazy to look up whether Armstrong has ever averaged a respectable number of assists over his seasons as a starter, but he's almost got to be a better passer by default than the PGs on the Mavs current roster. Not to mention that injuries have hurt the Mavs in this early portion of the season, and Armstrong is relatively durable, if nothing else.

No, Armstrong is basically a poor man's Bobby -- not much passing there either. I've generally liked him, and though he'd be a good backup rotation Pg for somebody who needed one. The Mavs do not -- they don't have the minutes for the guys they have..

Its just the "let's accumualte far more players then we would ever need every year" mentality in Dallas that gets me. There comes a point when you are just accumualting players that will never hit the floor, or will only do so at the expense of superior players. And at that point you are just wasting money, creating an awkward chemistry sitaution, and stunting your talented young players. Dallas has done this before. It has not paid off.

 

[Kev.in]

This trade doesn't make sense for either team. I guess they felt like making a move just because.

Byron Scott has had to stay positive through an awful lot of garbage this year already and now he's trying to talk like Junior Harrington and Alex Garcia aren't awful options as your top two point guards (until Baron returns from his messed up back).

 

[Insomniacal Fan]

Scott probably likes it better than New Jersey, where the point guards hate him

 

[LPKingsFan]

No, Armstrong is basically a poor man's Bobby -- not much passing there either. I've generally liked him, and though he'd be a good backup rotation Pg for somebody who needed one. The Mavs do not -- they don't have the minutes for the guys they have..

Its just the "let's accumualte far more players then we would ever need every year" mentality in Dallas that gets me. There comes a point when you are just accumualting players that will never hit the floor, or will only do so at the expense of superior players. And at that point you are just wasting money, creating an awkward chemistry sitaution, and stunting your talented young players. Dallas has done this before. It has not paid off.

True, but I would argue that it worked out for talented young Josh Howard and Marquis Daniels.

 

[Bricklayer]

True, but I would argue that it worked out for talented young Josh Howard and Marquis Daniels.

Huh? Those guys are draft picks. They are the players who SHOULD be getting PT if Nelson had any concept of player development or rotation as opposed to the washed up veteran of the week approach they are always taking.

Sometimes Dallas looks like just what it is -- a team owned by a billionaire with a sense of entitlement -- and just picks up people willy nilly just because they can without any apparent sense of what they truly need or not. Have more talent than any other team in the league, but their lack of focus and plan continues to doom them to second tier status. Had thought that maybe they had gotten past that with the clearing of the frontcourt for Dirk, but really all they have done is turn around and create the same overcrowded mess in the backcourt.

 

[HndsmCelt]

Not even 20 games into the season and the Hornets are tossing in the towell and leading the lotery race.

 

[sloter]

Huh? Those guys are draft picks. They are the players who SHOULD be getting PT if Nelson had any concept of player development or rotation as opposed to the washed up veteran of the week approach they are always taking.

Like Adelman did with Drazen Petrovic, Gerald Wallace, or even this year Kevin Martin? Adelman's only choice for a starting rookie was noone else but JASON WILLIAMS himself, even though he had much more reliable (read : smarter) players playing PG at the time as well.

It's pretty interesting because looking at Wallace's, Hedo's and Jimmy Jackson's stats this year it is really hard to believe that two of them were major part of the rotation and the third one wasn't a part of it at all. Especially given our need for athleticism, rebounding and shotblocking.

 

[Kingsgurl]

Adelman's only choice for a starting rookie was noone else but JASON WILLIAMS himself, even though he had much more reliable (read : smarter) players playing PG at the time as well.

Um, no, he really didn't. Not in Jasons rookie year. Jon Barry, Tariq and V Max were the main other guards.

 

[Lightforms]

These Hornets are a mess.
And that just doesn't include their injury problems...

Another one bites the dust!
Two minutes into the game and David West sprains his knee!

They should just forfit the rest of the season.

 

[4cwebb]

No, Armstrong is basically a poor man's Bobby -- not much passing there either. I've generally liked him, and though he'd be a good backup rotation Pg for somebody who needed one. The Mavs do not -- they don't have the minutes for the guys they have..

Its just the "let's accumualte far more players then we would ever need every year" mentality in Dallas that gets me. There comes a point when you are just accumualting players that will never hit the floor, or will only do so at the expense of superior players. And at that point you are just wasting money, creating an awkward chemistry sitaution, and stunting your talented young players. Dallas has done this before. It has not paid off.

I didn't pay attention to the Armstrong experiment in the Mavs game against Utah, but if nothing else he could serve as some pretty decent trade bait as the deadline nears. Could package him with Stackhouse and upgrade a poor team's entire backcourt in one trade if the Mavs feel they need a legitimate backup PF or C for the playoff run. Just a thought.

 

[SLAB]

How 'bout our friend Danny Dickau?

In his 2 games as a 7th/8th man he's scored 14 and 17 pts!

He may not be a stiff after all!

 

[4cwebb]

And Armstrong is now the starter for the Mavs.

 

[Evilmav2]

And Armstrong is now the starter for the Mavs.

Shades of last year's early-season Tony Delk adventure...

I would bet a fair amount that Nelson will eventually tire of his strange point guard experiments, and resort to the logical expedient of starting Jason Terry. In the meantime though, I guess it's Darrell Armstrong time...