Gargamel
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What do you expect from NO in the playoffs? How far?
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What do you expect from NO in the playoffs? How far?
sloter
Starter
I'd say 2nd round and out.
Peja
Bench
Another easy victory against Golden State...CP3 was funny,when 4th quarter started and BS wanted to put him on the bench he was saying "please, please, please... I wanna play..." Later he told Peja to get up from the bench "get up, get up... we need you now" and then turned to Byron "they are playing zone... we need Peja and West".
That is real leader of the team!
That is real leader of the team!
venom_7
Starter
If they can stay up top they better hope they catch Denver or Golden State first round. Its like an insurance policy. Denver sucks and I hate the way they play. They gave up 151 points to the freakin Seattle Sonics tonight. I'd be embarassed to play for them at this point. Its even worse when you watch them. Its like a pickup game.
piksi
Hall of Famer
big game tonight
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-NewOrleansPreview0708
Marc Stein should be fire for incompetence. What a tool
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-NewOrleansPreview0708
Marc Stein should be fire for incompetence. What a tool
uolj
Starter
I don't get it. He's a tool because he predicted them to be 4th like everybody else and said if they stay healthy they will make the playoffs?
Gargamel
Starter
piksi said:
Nowhere near.
NO showed mettle coming back, that's my boy By Scott's influence. They showed a lot more tightness in the 1st quarter than one would expect to see from a 1st seed, although there's not much separation between any of the top 6 seeds this year. Not to say that I'm pleased with another Rudy 3 exposition that let NO back in.
Kobe came out looking pretty good if the MVP voters are using this game as a litmus test. I know you liked that double pump.
RKid
Bench
really ?
Hindsight is 20/20.
"Missed all 2006-07; still better option than Kwame Brown or Andrew Bynum."
On Chris Mihm
Variant
Starter
Didn't watch the game, but looks like the Hornets just turned it on a little too late. Not gonna beat many teams letting yourself get down by 30.
It'll be interesting to see how both the Lakers AND the Hornets deal with their inexperience issues in the playoffs. Lakers young guys should be steadied by Bryant and Fisher, but I still kinda figure this will be a "learning" year for their group. And I don't really think the Hornets are ready...
It'll be interesting to see how both the Lakers AND the Hornets deal with their inexperience issues in the playoffs. Lakers young guys should be steadied by Bryant and Fisher, but I still kinda figure this will be a "learning" year for their group. And I don't really think the Hornets are ready...
Gargamel
Starter
Bynum's probably out for the year. He still has swelling and they took him off a time table. So learning year is probably not by choice if you're right (and I leaned towards your opinion even before the Bynum update).
Mad D
Starter
Tie breakers are determined by conference, division, games won against those specific teams they are tied with, etc.
hoopsfan
Starter
I just got back form the game. Hardly a robbery. Bad calls went both ways...if you took your blinders off.
Darn it..I missed out on my garlic fries.
..the game was getting too close and I didn't want to miss it.
Peja
Bench
On one serbian site I just saw that Lakers will be first if NO loose just one game before the end.Of course,Lakers need to win against San Antonio tomorow.
piksi
Hall of Famer
I just got back form the game. Hardly a robbery. Bad calls went both ways...if you took your blinders off.
Darn it..I missed out on my garlic fries.
if You took Your blinders off You would have seen the targeted foul calling on the positions where Hornets are the weakest and the foul ratio in the first half where the game was decided. lakers as usual got every call that mattered.
First lakers foul in the 4th came with 3 minutes to go. After the game all they were talking was how aggressive they were. Are You kidding me ? They got away with everything and a call on any touch foul plus the fisher flops but I don't even cout these.
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vladetomiller
Bench
I had no doubt that the lakers were going to win this game and I agree with Piksi on this one. Calling those fouls on Tyson Chandler in the first is the key , ou take him out and NO doesnt have any post presence or that lob pass or the offensive rebousing that made them good this year. Paul was fouled on many posessions from the side and behind and no foul was called during the first half. The offensive foul on paul for bumping into fisher, that can go either way, it wasnt as if fisher was totally set, he was moving.
But second half, it went NO way, refs wanted to get the game close and didnt want to have a blow out. Fisher and Farmar were bumped and fouled on the perimeter so many times in one posession and no fouls were called and thats exactly when the hornets cut the deficit. This is the time when kobe got his offensive foul after the pass and barely touching pargo, they were letting so much more bumping before the offensive foul on the same play where hornets players bumped bryant
But the place I dont agree with Piksi, it is not the nba and the refs always support only the lakers and they are there only to help them win. If that was the case they should win every game every year, they wouldnt miss playoffs and lose in first round.
I know you wear those blinders but it will be good if you see some of the other games objectively. Ofcourse you like kings and hate lakers so those wouldnt be good games to understand nba refs. Try watching two teams that you dont care too much either way ( spurs vs suns , chi vs cle , bos vs orl ) and has playoff seeding impications and you can understand. There are also the spurs vs mavs, suns vs mav games but you guys also hate mavs cos they knocked you out of playoffs during those years when lakers didnt.
Why do you think pop sat his starters in the 4th quarters against jazz and suns. There are games where phil has given extended rest to his starters and lost the game. They know better. Ofcourse the media will say that the spurs are aged and resting the starters was a good move. Really resting the starters and moving down from a 2nd seed to a lower seed to lose homecourt in second round, is that worth it. These games were within reach when he rested the starters.
But ABC wants suns vs spurs first round to continue that excitement from last year, give the suns a chance to redeem themselves. But put them on to the lakers in the next round to have shaq vs kobe in the playoffs and continue that rivalry on that side and milk it for one more year before starting the new rivalry with the eastern teams.
But second half, it went NO way, refs wanted to get the game close and didnt want to have a blow out. Fisher and Farmar were bumped and fouled on the perimeter so many times in one posession and no fouls were called and thats exactly when the hornets cut the deficit. This is the time when kobe got his offensive foul after the pass and barely touching pargo, they were letting so much more bumping before the offensive foul on the same play where hornets players bumped bryant
But the place I dont agree with Piksi, it is not the nba and the refs always support only the lakers and they are there only to help them win. If that was the case they should win every game every year, they wouldnt miss playoffs and lose in first round.
I know you wear those blinders but it will be good if you see some of the other games objectively. Ofcourse you like kings and hate lakers so those wouldnt be good games to understand nba refs. Try watching two teams that you dont care too much either way ( spurs vs suns , chi vs cle , bos vs orl ) and has playoff seeding impications and you can understand. There are also the spurs vs mavs, suns vs mav games but you guys also hate mavs cos they knocked you out of playoffs during those years when lakers didnt.
Why do you think pop sat his starters in the 4th quarters against jazz and suns. There are games where phil has given extended rest to his starters and lost the game. They know better. Ofcourse the media will say that the spurs are aged and resting the starters was a good move. Really resting the starters and moving down from a 2nd seed to a lower seed to lose homecourt in second round, is that worth it. These games were within reach when he rested the starters.
But ABC wants suns vs spurs first round to continue that excitement from last year, give the suns a chance to redeem themselves. But put them on to the lakers in the next round to have shaq vs kobe in the playoffs and continue that rivalry on that side and milk it for one more year before starting the new rivalry with the eastern teams.
Gargamel
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piksi said:
Excuse me when Paul can swing his elbows into a double team and miraculously get the foul in his favor and when Radmanovic gets a flagrant for doing the same thing to Chandler that was done to him.
Not trying to Chandler you here, but c'mon...it's not like you're an unbiased observer here either. Peja's your boy.
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piksi
Hall of Famer
And tomorrow when Spurs plays lakers and while I hate both - I will root against - guess who ? Who is my boy there ? I also root for any other team playing lakers which includes even Mavs.
It doesn't change that refs did what they were told to do.
Hope Bowen finally does what he is supposed to do tomorrow.
Peja
Bench
http://www.nba.com/games/20080412/NOHSAC/recap.html
NO is about to ruin everything,or better to say that Kings have runied everything for them
Jokes aside,they had a game of the season in LA,didn't win there and now it's going to be tough.I can't believe BS thought Peja can score two 3 pointers in last 15 seconds
NO is about to ruin everything,or better to say that Kings have runied everything for them
Jokes aside,they had a game of the season in LA,didn't win there and now it's going to be tough.I can't believe BS thought Peja can score two 3 pointers in last 15 seconds
vladetomiller
Bench
Why do you hate the spurs ?
Did the refs do their job when the lakers lost to memphis. If the spurs win today did the refs do their job or would they have failed in your eyes.
What do you think of the refs job in the 25 games the lakers lost this year.
This thread is about the Hornets. The Lakers have their own thread so discussion of them - and the related responses from people with varying degrees of strong feelings for the Kings - won't permeate every thread in the NBA forum.
Granted, the discussion became somewhat connected when the two teams played, but let's get back to discussing the Hornets...
Seriously.
Any team that is leading their conference and cannot beat a non-playoff team missing two starters has to be open to some serious questioning.
Granted, the discussion became somewhat connected when the two teams played, but let's get back to discussing the Hornets...
Seriously.
Any team that is leading their conference and cannot beat a non-playoff team missing two starters has to be open to some serious questioning.
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