Head coach & GM options

[Spike]

I'm not sure what this love affair is with Thomas. Unless all those in love with him are under 5'10" in height. You know, birds of a feather. Last season Thomas shot 35.8% from beyond the arc, took 10.5 attempts a game in 27 minutes a game, which I might add is only one shot less than Tyreke took in 31 minutes a game (which one is the shooting guard) while he averaged 4.0 asssists a game. Beno on the other hand shot 39.6% from beyond the arc while taking only 8 attempts a game in 27 minutes. Beno averaged 6.1 assists per game. Both players averaged around 2 rebounds a game, and Beno barely squeeked out an edge with 0.9 steals per game to Thomas 0.8 steals per game. Stat wise, Beno is the better shooter, and the better assist man. Defensively Thomas is a terrible pick and roll defender, and if you don't think so, then your in denial. He can't fight through a screen for the life of him, and worse yet, he gives up on too many playes.

This nonsense about him being a good defender is just that, nonsense. I don't dislike Thomas, but I'm not about to inflate what he is, and what he is, is a good change of pace guard off the bench that can make some plays and disrupt the defense. He's not terrible at creating for others, but he's not great either, and looks for his own shot far too often. I want him on the team. He's fun to watch, but he will never lead this team anywhere as our starting PG. That may be true of Beno as well, but Beno is a better compliment to Cousins and Evans, and is more willing to defer.

All of it is well said. I bolded the last part for emphasis, because that's really what we're looking for. We're looking for complementary pieces, and IT does not complement those two in the starting unit. He's great off the bench, and does well in fits and spurts. IT off the bench (because we've improved the position) means this team has taken a step in the right direction.

 

[macadocious]

Vinny D anyone?

Clip let him go per Adrian W. Not advocating, just mentioning.

It would technically be an upgrade. Going from the worst coach in the NBA to the second worst coach.

 

[funkykingston]

Personally, given the makeup of our team, I don't know why so many are convinced IT should be the 6th man. I think he could be a good 6th man, but not on a team with MT who also is 6th man material. Having two shoot first 6th man types in addition to Reke, and any minutes Jimmer might get makes little sense. And in looking at our roster, I'd either consider moving Reke back to point and getting a good spot up shooter and defender at the 2 who can play good D, or keep Reke at the 2 and upgrade the PG spot with a Hinrich/Chalmers type. Actually, I'd strongly consider a Douglas/Reke pairing as Douglas reminds me of Hinrich. Defender who can set up the offense, hit the open shot but isn't aggressive in looking for his shot and looks to play off others. But if upgrading at PG, I'd think a defensive minded PG off the bench in Douglas would be better for the team, especially if next to MT off the bench.

I can tell you exactly why I think IT should be the sixth man. It starts with me being in agreement with the notion (which you mentioned) of moving Tyreke back to the point with a full sized, defensive SG next to him. That immediately moves Thomas to the bench. It also instantly makes him a huge change of pace guard vs Tyreke's physically punishing style at the point. Secondly, it's because the Kings need to make a trade as there is a logjam of chucker guards. It makes little sense to trade IT since his salary is so low (since salaries much roughly match in a trade) AND he's an ending contract. But Marcus Thornton has a reasonable contract that both runs a few more years and is big enough to bring back a nice player in return. And I think Jimmer should be dealt for whatever we can get. Maybe package him with our 2nd rounder to jump back into the late 1st round and grab a nice role player?

 

[Padrino]

I can tell you exactly why I think IT should be the sixth man. It starts with me being in agreement with the notion (which you mentioned) of moving Tyreke back to the point with a full sized, defensive SG next to him. That immediately moves Thomas to the bench. It also instantly makes him a huge change of pace guard vs Tyreke's physically punishing style at the point. Secondly, it's because the Kings need to make a trade as there is a logjam of chucker guards. It makes little sense to trade IT since his salary is so low (since salaries much roughly match in a trade) AND he's an ending contract. But Marcus Thornton has a reasonable contract that both runs a few more years and is big enough to bring back a nice player in return. And I think Jimmer should be dealt for whatever we can get. Maybe package him with our 2nd rounder to jump back into the late 1st round and grab a nice role player?

i'm ALL about this.

 

[pshn80]

Well said, and I agree on all counts. When I look at our guards I see a starter and possible cornerstone in Tyreke and bench players in Thornton, Jimmer, IT and Douglas. Douglas to me is a great third PG on a team who will play tough and not hurt you if you have to give him minutes. Jimmer is potentially a bench shooter but still a project. Thornton can be a volume scorer either as a starter on a bad team or a 6th or 7th man on a good team. IT is a scoring PG who really should be used as a change of pace off the bench IMO.

Personally I'd like to see Fredette and Thornton traded, Douglas resigned (if the price is right) and IT moved to the bench to play a Jason Terry/JJ Barea type role. If Tyreke is made the primary ballhandler with a new starting SG (Oladipo? Crabbe?) then Thomas can come in to the game and change the energy and flow of the game with his speed and scoring.

Why build in a team deficiency from the beginning. Please, no point guard-hood for Tyreke. Two guard for him.

 

[funkykingston]

Why build in a team deficiency from the beginning. Please, no point guard-hood for Tyreke. Two guard for him.

What deficiency would that be?

 

[Padrino]

Why build in a team deficiency from the beginning. Please, no point guard-hood for Tyreke. Two guard for him.

there is no deficiency if you adopt a playoff perspective. neither memphis nor indiana have PG's who are particularly prolific passers. mike conley and george hill are, in fact, not so different from tyreke, though both are a bit less talented at getting to the rim than 'reke is. conley and hill are combo guards who can effectively run an offense, and who can also look for their own offense. evans has a size advantage on both of them, and is at least the defensive equal of both, though he plays for a poor defensive team in the kings. and that is the separation between sacramento and teams like memphis or indiana. if you want to get to the playoffs, you build in a culture of defense from the beginning...

 

[Rose2Thomas]

not entirely, he made it to the playoffs 2 years back to back with a pretty mediocre roster in chicago, then the 2nd round in his first year w/CP3 and i believe if it hadnt been for blake griffin messing up his ankle they would have gotten passed memphis and a beaten up OKC team to be in the WCF right now.


Hes certainly better than smart and runs a really nice pick and roll spread offense but he's a retread now and there are many better options available, whats bad about his firing for us is one of our top canidates, mike malone, is now said to be the front runner for the clipper job.

How were his Chicago rosters mediocre?

He had Derrick Rose, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Luol Deng, John Salmons, Brad Miller, Thabo/Taj and Joakim Noah.

At that time that's one all-star (Rookie Rose was already all-star caliber) and 3 other players in their prime who weren't too far off from all-star level.

The team lost talent when Thibbodeau took over and yet became significantly better.

 

[VF21]

It would technically be an upgrade. Going from the worst coach in the NBA to the second worst coach.

This.

 

[bajaden]

I can tell you exactly why I think IT should be the sixth man. It starts with me being in agreement with the notion (which you mentioned) of moving Tyreke back to the point with a full sized, defensive SG next to him. That immediately moves Thomas to the bench. It also instantly makes him a huge change of pace guard vs Tyreke's physically punishing style at the point. Secondly, it's because the Kings need to make a trade as there is a logjam of chucker guards. It makes little sense to trade IT since his salary is so low (since salaries much roughly match in a trade) AND he's an ending contract. But Marcus Thornton has a reasonable contract that both runs a few more years and is big enough to bring back a nice player in return. And I think Jimmer should be dealt for whatever we can get. Maybe package him with our 2nd rounder to jump back into the late 1st round and grab a nice role player?

Thanks, you saved me having to explain my position. And, by the way, I don't think it has to be either Douglas or IT. Realizing were currently talking about the players we have now, and have no way of knowing who might end up on the team, the players that I would try to move are Jimmer and Thornton, especially if we were to draft someone like Oladipo. You move Tyreke back to point, put Oladipo next to him, and make IT the first PG off the bench along with Salmons at SG where he belongs. If we amnesty Salmons, then we keep Thornton and bring him off the bench with IT. Douglas would be our emergency stopper, and injury insurance.

Of course that could all change with some major moves by the new owners. By the way, I might add that another reason to keep IT is that at the moment he's dammed cheap. So your getting a lot of bang for the buck.

 

[kingjatt]

How were his Chicago rosters mediocre?

He had Derrick Rose, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Luol Deng, John Salmons, Brad Miller, Thabo/Taj and Joakim Noah.

At that time that's one all-star (Rookie Rose was already all-star caliber) and 3 other players in their prime who weren't too far off from all-star level.

The team lost talent when Thibbodeau took over and yet became significantly better.

i guess will just have to disagree, but rookie rose was averaging 16 points on 15 shots hardly all-star caliber, and noah was still blossoming at 6 pts 7 rebs hardly the player he developed into, outside of deng the rest were career journeymen, taj wasnt on the 08-09 team and they lost there leading scorer on the 09-10 team (ben gordon), that roster was no where near what it was when thibs got it

alot of the credit goes to thibs but i do believe individual player development and the addition of boozer/korver/asik (I fail to see how they lost talent) had plenty to do with the improvement over vinny's tenure. i remember many back then being impressed in VDN's ability to take such a roster to back to back playoff appearances.

 

[rainmaker]

I can tell you exactly why I think IT should be the sixth man. It starts with me being in agreement with the notion (which you mentioned) of moving Tyreke back to the point with a full sized, defensive SG next to him. That immediately moves Thomas to the bench. It also instantly makes him a huge change of pace guard vs Tyreke's physically punishing style at the point. Secondly, it's because the Kings need to make a trade as there is a logjam of chucker guards. It makes little sense to trade IT since his salary is so low (since salaries much roughly match in a trade) AND he's an ending contract. But Marcus Thornton has a reasonable contract that both runs a few more years and is big enough to bring back a nice player in return. And I think Jimmer should be dealt for whatever we can get. Maybe package him with our 2nd rounder to jump back into the late 1st round and grab a nice role player?

I agree with that, just surprised a number of fans are thinking of Reke as our PG next year. I'm in favor of it but that certainly isn't what many have wanted anytime recently.

So, it's basically IT over MT as a 6th man, as I see problems with both gunning off the bench, and if we get a fulltime SG next to Reke, MT will see few minutes. So will IT for that matter and if MT is getting about 15 mins per game, that 8M no longer looks reasonable, and based off 15 mins per game and what he did last year I don't see him yielding much in a trade. It's easy to say we should just clear out the backcourt but when considering both MT's and Jimmer's value plummeted under Smart, that makes it tougher to accomplish in reality.

I also ask this, what's better for the team coming off the bench, Douglas/MT, defense/calmness next to a gunner, or IT/MT, both gunners who are defensive liabilities, or IT/someone else, which again goes back to MT's current low value and how we move him to free up a spot for that someone else. If it's Reke at PG, I personally go with Douglas/MT.

 

[Livinthedream]

Thanks, you saved me having to explain my position. And, by the way, I don't think it has to be either Douglas or IT. Realizing were currently talking about the players we have now, and have no way of knowing who might end up on the team, the players that I would try to move are Jimmer and Thornton, especially if we were to draft someone like Oladipo. You move Tyreke back to point, put Oladipo next to him, and make IT the first PG off the bench along with Salmons at SG where he belongs. If we amnesty Salmons, then we keep Thornton and bring him off the bench with IT. Douglas would be our emergency stopper, and injury insurance.

Of course that could all change with some major moves by the new owners. By the way, I might add that another reason to keep IT is that at the moment he's dammed cheap. So your getting a lot of bang for the buck.

I've always been for Tyreke at pg, for the simple fact, it was where he was most effective. Whether people like his ball dominant style or not, it's where Tyreke needs to be to maximize his potential. Paired with Oladipo would be deadly. While we're resolving the guard situation, we are not thinking how it will impact our most talented player, Cousins. Cuz will get a lot less touches with Reke at the point, and we could see even more pouting and tension. Will take the right kind of coach to make it work and manage the personalities.

 

[Telemachus]

There's only a small group here with a love affair with IT, although some in the media do as well like Bruski who thinks he's a top 15 PG. Don't disagree with anything you said.

But a question. Do you really want him here next year? With MT and Douglas? Or IT over one or both of them? Do you want IT, MT and Douglas? Would you pick IT or Douglas as your backup PG? I don't know what context to put your I want IT here next year statement.

Personally, given the makeup of our team, I don't know why so many are convinced IT should be the 6th man. I think he could be a good 6th man, but not on a team with MT who also is 6th man material. Having two shoot first 6th man types in addition to Reke, and any minutes Jimmer might get makes little sense. And in looking at our roster, I'd either consider moving Reke back to point and getting a good spot up shooter and defender at the 2 who can play good D, or keep Reke at the 2 and upgrade the PG spot with a Hinrich/Chalmers type. Actually, I'd strongly consider a Douglas/Reke pairing as Douglas reminds me of Hinrich. Defender who can set up the offense, hit the open shot but isn't aggressive in looking for his shot and looks to play off others. But if upgrading at PG, I'd think a defensive minded PG off the bench in Douglas would be better for the team, especially if next to MT off the bench.

I think when deciding between Thornton and IT as the primary sixth man, it will depend on who is the other starting guard next to Evans. If we somehow get lucky and land Oladipo, then I think IT would be better served as the primary behind them (you wouldn't want Thornton and Oladipo in the back court at the same time). However, it we end up with a PG and Evans a the 2, then Thornton might be the better option. Another thing to consider is money. Thornton makes a lot more money than IT, which also makes him more viable trade bait. I would also like to keep Douglas as a defensive option off the bench.

 

[Telemachus]

It's skewed to look at Thomas's stats for the entire year when he juggled by Smart with a cast of characters at the pg for the first part of the season. Take a look at his stats after the All-Star break when Smart settled on the pg position. Then discuss. Just like the prior year I might add.

Thomas is a far superior defender to Beno. Not even close. Not in a million billion freaking years do I think Beno is a better defender or player than IT. Talk about a walk in the park. Heck, I'm 56 years old and I think I could beat Beno off the dribble. And IT's better defensively than Bibby was when he was with the Kings. Again not close. Douglas is obviously better than IT on D (and Tyreke for that matter). So when it comes to D, I guess it all depends on who you are comparing him to.

I don't know about "love affair." I think it's more about going with the prettiest girl of the bunch. He doesn't have a lot of competition right now when it comes to the pg position.

You can say that IT is a better defensive player than Beno or Bibby all you want, but the truth is that all 3 of them are (were) BAD defensive players. IT is a little better at staying in front of his man (until someone sets a pick), and both Beno and Bibby were better at team defense (IT has no clue how to play team defense). But in the end, they all rate near the bottom defensively. It is pretty much a wash IMO.

 

[VF21]

You can say that IT is a better defensive player than Beno or Bibby all you want, but the truth is that all 3 of them are (were) BAD defensive players. IT is a little better at staying in front of his man (until someone sets a pick), and both Beno and Bibby were better at team defense (IT has no clue how to play team defense). But in the end, they all rate near the bottom defensively. It is pretty much a wash IMO.

If memory serves, Beno wasn't actually that bad at defense in San Antonio. It was only when he came to the defense-abhorrent atmosphere of Sacramento that he realized none of the cool kids held their arms up in front of an inbound pass or held their arms out to keep a guard from moving inside, etc. After he left here, I recall watching him a couple of times as he reverted to his previous "bad" habits.

 

[Telemachus]

If memory serves, Beno wasn't actually that bad at defense in San Antonio. It was only when he came to the defense-abhorrent atmosphere of Sacramento that he realized none of the cool kids held their arms up in front of an inbound pass or held their arms out to keep a guard from moving inside, etc. After he left here, I recall watching him a couple of times as he reverted to his previous "bad" habits.

Beno's problem was that he isn't quick enough to stay in front of most PGs I the NBA playing man D. However, he knows where is supposed to be when playing team D (probably learned in SA). While with the Kings, team D was (and still is) almost non-existent. That exposed Beno's lack of man D that much more.

 

[Kingster]

You can say that IT is a better defensive player than Beno or Bibby all you want, but the truth is that all 3 of them are (were) BAD defensive players. IT is a little better at staying in front of his man (until someone sets a pick), and both Beno and Bibby were better at team defense (IT has no clue how to play team defense). But in the end, they all rate near the bottom defensively. It is pretty much a wash IMO.

IT can at least put pressure on the ball. Those other guys couldn't put pressure on my 90 year old aunt. On that alone, IT is the better defensive player. You've got to break pressure on offense and create pressure on defense if you are a point guard. IT is the better point guard on this team when you take both of those characteristics into account when evaluating pgs. When the other team presses, who do you want to break pressure on this team other than IT? Nobody, that's who. That's where the Tyreke pg argument falls apart. That's where the Tyreke/Douglas backcourt doesn't work. That's where the any other guard combo doesn't work other than one that currently has IT in it. If the other team has a modicum of quickness, and they have any brains in their head, they pressure a sans-IT backcourt and they create all kinds of problems.

As far as this good/bad binary argument, I don't buy it. It's ALL relative in the NBA. It isn't a good/bad proposition. It's who you are better than or not better than. It's a relative dynamic, not a binary one.

As far as team defense is concerned and knowledge thereof, well that's not a surpise. Beno came from an excellent program in SA with probably the best coach in the league. And Bibby didn't have bad coaching when he was with Adelman. Knowledge is one thing; ability is another.

 

[funkykingston]

When the other team presses, who do you want to break pressure on this team other than IT? Nobody, that's who. That's where the Tyreke pg argument falls apart. That's where the Tyreke/Douglas backcourt doesn't work. That's where the any other guard combo doesn't work other than one that currently has IT in it. If the other team has a modicum of quickness, and they have any brains in their head, they pressure a sans-IT backcourt and they create all kinds of problems.

We can have a legitimate argument about whether Tyreke should play PG or SG but this particular bit of reasoning isn't convincing. First off, how often do NBA teams actually apply full court pressure? Occasionally an opposing PG will hound a guy full court, but as far as full on pressing and trapping it pretty much only happens as a desperation tactic late in games.

But even more importantly than that, I'd personally much rather have Tyreke operating against pressure. I'd take the better ballhandler, the faster player (Tyreke's 3/4 court sprint was much better than IT's at the combine) and the 6'5" guy with the 6'11" wingspan who can see and pass OVER defensive pressure vs the 5'9" guy with the 6'1" wingspan who can be swarmed and hemmed in.

Besides, if a team really resorts to full court pressure, it would make the most sense to have BOTH of your best ballhandling/passing guards in the backcourt anyway which means as the team is currently constituted it would likely be Evans and Thomas together anyway.

As for defense, Isiah certainly gives effort at on ball defense. I can understand him not being able to physically fight through screens but I was frustrated often by his lack of effort to do so or to try to slip them. He was poor as a pick and roll defender. How much of that should be laid at Smart's feet I don't know. And Tyreke showed flashes of being a very good defender but was very inconsistent with his effort. So I wouldn't really make defense a point in either guy's favor. That said, if both guys could be coached/encouraged to play to their potential, Tyreke can be the better defender and a real advantage for the Kings as he can guard quick guys AND prevent stronger PGs from bulling their way inside.

 

[Padrino]

IT can at least put pressure on the ball. Those other guys couldn't put pressure on my 90 year old aunt. On that alone, IT is the better defensive player. You've got to break pressure on offense and create pressure on defense if you are a point guard. IT is the better point guard on this team when you take both of those characteristics into account when evaluating pgs. When the other team presses, who do you want to break pressure on this team other than IT? Nobody, that's who. That's where the Tyreke pg argument falls apart. That's where the Tyreke/Douglas backcourt doesn't work. That's where the any other guard combo doesn't work other than one that currently has IT in it. If the other team has a modicum of quickness, and they have any brains in their head, they pressure a sans-IT backcourt and they create all kinds of problems.

As far as this good/bad binary argument, I don't buy it. It's ALL relative in the NBA. It isn't a good/bad proposition. It's who you are better than or not better than. It's a relative dynamic, not a binary one.

As far as team defense is concerned and knowledge thereof, well that's not a surpise. Beno came from an excellent program in SA with probably the best coach in the league. And Bibby didn't have bad coaching when he was with Adelman. Knowledge is one thing; ability is another.

uhm... i want tyreke breaking pressure. he's stronger than most guards in the league. he's proven time and again that he can get into the paint, against both sg's and pg's, and score inside at an effective fg%...

 

[Padrino]

We can have a legitimate argument about whether Tyreke should play PG or SG but this particular bit of reasoning isn't convincing. First off, how often do NBA teams actually apply full court pressure? Occasionally an opposing PG will hound a guy full court, but as far as full on pressing and trapping it pretty much only happens as a desperation tactic late in games.

But even more importantly than that, I'd personally much rather have Tyreke operating against pressure. I'd take the better ballhandler, the faster player (Tyreke's 3/4 court sprint was much better than IT's at the combine) and the 6'5" guy with the 6'11" wingspan who can see and pass OVER defensive pressure vs the 5'9" guy with the 6'1" wingspan who can be swarmed and hemmed in.

Besides, if a team really resorts to full court pressure, it would make the most sense to have BOTH of your best ballhandling/passing guards in the backcourt anyway which means as the team is currently constituted it would likely be Evans and Thomas together anyway.

As for defense, Isiah certainly gives effort at on ball defense. I can understand him not being able to physically fight through screens but I was frustrated often by his lack of effort to do so or to try to slip them. He was poor as a pick and roll defender. How much of that should be laid at Smart's feet I don't know. And Tyreke showed flashes of being a very good defender but was very inconsistent with his effort. So I wouldn't really make defense a point in either guy's favor. That said, if both guys could be coached/encouraged to play to their potential, Tyreke can be the better defender and a real advantage for the Kings as he can guard quick guys AND prevent stronger PGs from bulling their way inside.

a thousand times YES.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

On facebook my friend had a post about who will the Clippers hire, and named off a bunch of names, mostly ones that have come up in this thread (McMillen, Sloan, VanGundy,)
here is the response from a guy i know who happens to work for the Warriors....

"To be honest with you, I think Mike Malone is probably the best coach out of that list. He rebuilt GSW's culture to a defensive minded team after being the laughing stock of the league after all of these years. Mark Jackson just preaches to the team and gives them hope, drive, a voice, etc. Coach Malone is the one who actually draws up the plays, defense, etc. Hope he lands a head coaching position some where that'll treat him right. He's a cool dude that will say hi and talk to anyone."

 

[Section 101]

On facebook my friend had a post about who will the Clippers hire, and named off a bunch of names, mostly ones that have come up in this thread (McMillen, Sloan, VanGundy,)
here is the response from a guy i know who happens to work for the Warriors....

"To be honest with you, I think Mike Malone is probably the best coach out of that list. He rebuilt GSW's culture to a defensive minded team after being the laughing stock of the league after all of these years. Mark Jackson just preaches to the team and gives them hope, drive, a voice, etc. Coach Malone is the one who actually draws up the plays, defense, etc. Hope he lands a head coaching position some where that'll treat him right. He's a cool dude that will say hi and talk to anyone."

Supposedly, CP3 really likes Malone from their NO days. He's been rumored for a few coaching vacancies.

 

[jalfa]

not that there's ever been much of a worry that Vivek might have trouble making the correct choices as far as hiring new personnel is concerned, but this video still reassured me. the guy is a guru as far as hiring the right people is concerned and has already overseen a successful rebuild as a (part-)owner. we can all be absolutely confident that he'll make the right calls. good god what a contrast to the previous regime.

 

[Fear the Putin]

Cousins is a lock then? ^^

 

[jaysoonii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mn9uouir60 ... I miss Tyreke

 

[jalfa]

I don't know Malone and am worried that a new owners group may turn off the fans by hiring someone most people have not heard of unless he happens to be great. Will you come as close as possible to guaranteeing this guy with be a great head coach. I think I know your answer but we need a guy better than Sloan (age is a factor), McMillan, etc. if we hire him and it better be obvious quickly that he is great.

just look at the current conference Finals, outside of Pop, who is an enormous exception any which way, none of the coaches involved had any headcoaching experience 5 years ago.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mn9uouir60 ... I miss Tyreke

^he had a triple double that night.
btw, I'm in that video haha

 

[rainmaker]

Thing is, while GS did fire Smart and bring in a new, young coach with no previous head coaching experience, they also brought in Jerry West as a consultant and someone who has a lot of say within their FO.

When giving the franchise a rebirth I think you preferably would go one of two routes. Either bring in a name coach along with a younger, hungry GM with little name recognition(to the average fan) or you bring in a big name GM along with a younger, new head coach with little name recognition.

Hiring a relative no name GM(an assistant from somewhere else most fans never heard of) along with a no name head coach(Malone falls in that category) could be a mistake. Preferably you have experience in one of the two positions and that helps from a PR perspective, generating excitement. And the rumor a month ago was that Vivek did want a big name and he'd go after a proven winner, so I'd hope we don't get rookies at both the GM and head coach positions.

 

[John Galt]

These thousands of new STH want to see a name on the bench. Jerry Sloan baby, Jerry Sloan! He's got a good 3 years in him - enough to establish a bit of hard nosed winning momentum to take to the new areba, and he'll kick DMC's *** if necessary to get his points across. Vivek's Forbes interview shows he does not mind primadonnas "as long as they have the goods".

We need order restored, a culture established. I can think of no better candidate out there for this time in the Kings evolution.

I hope we get him.

I don't care who GM is, even if it is Geoff. I just want a good proven head coach for a change... PLEASE!!!