Harrington says he'd go to Denver

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Harrington's door open
Hawks forward says he'd welcome being traded to Nuggets
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By Chris Tomasson, Rocky Mountain News
December 19, 2005
ATLANTA - You could see me now or you could see me later.
That's the attitude Atlanta Hawks forward Al Harrington, who has been linked to the Denver Nuggets in trade talks, is taking.
Harrington said he would welcome a trade to Denver. If that doesn't happen, he said he will consider the Nuggets when he becomes a free agent after the season.
"Definitely, if they got some money out there for me," Harrington said before Atlanta's 110-107 overtime win Sunday against the Nuggets.
"Denver is a place I would love to play. I think they've got a lot of pieces. They might be missing one piece, somebody like myself or Ron Artest."
The Nuggets also are in the mix for Artest, the troubled Indiana Pacers forward who has asked to be traded. And there have been indications they are exploring the availability of Sacramento forward Peja Stojakovic, a free agent after the season.
NBA insiders indicated Saturday a possible three-way trade could have Artest going to Denver, Harrington returning to Indiana, where he played from 1998-99 to 2003-04 and the Nuggets sending forward Nene and guard Earl Watson to Atlanta.
There also have been indications of a possible deal in which Harrington would go to Denver for Nene and Watson.
"I've heard about that," said Atlanta general manager Billy Knight, when asked about trade possibilities involving Harrington. "I don't comment on rumors and speculation."
Nuggets general manager Kiki Vandeweghe declined comment on any possible trades. Nuggets coach George Karl brushed off such talk, saying he's "got enough to worry about with my team."
Harrington is making $6.9 million in the final year of his contract, so dealing him for Watson, earning $5 million, and Nene, making $3.04 million, would work under NBA rules. Harrington's primary position is small forward, but he doesn't believe that would be a concern if he went to Denver in a trade or as a free agent next season.
"(Carmelo Anthony) could play shooting guard," said Harrington, who probably would have to go to the Nuggets in the summer in a sign-and-trade because the Nuggets probably will not have enough salary-cap room. "That would create all types of mismatches."
If the Nuggets were to land Artest, making $6.5 million, that also could entail Anthony moving from small forward to shooting guard. He said Friday he is willing to do that, saying Artest is "the type of piece we need."
Artest has rescinded his trade demand. But most NBA observers believe the Pacers still will trade him.
"I'm mad at myself anyway," Artest on Sunday told The Indianapolis Star, the newspaper he told the previous weekend about his desire for a trade. "Going about things like I did, it's not easy to recover. But I'd love to (still) play for the Pacer organization."
Harrington was Artest's teammate in Indiana for 2 1/2 seasons. If the Nuggets acquired him, Harrington does not believe he would be a problem.
"He does a lot of stuff that is a little immature, but it's only that stuff the media gets a hold of," said Harrington, who also said he would "embrace" being traded back to Indiana. "In the locker room, he's the greatest. If you ask him to be at an event, he'll be there on time. He just has little episodes, and the media takes it and runs with it.
"This one (asking to be traded), he put on himself. For the most part, he's a good person. . . . (But) I think he's burned too many bridges (to stay in Indiana)."
There has been speculation Artest could be dealt to the Kings for Stojakovic, who makes $7.5 million. There are indications the Nuggets have also looked into the availability of Stojakovic.
The Kings during the summer tried to land Nene in a sign-and- trade for shooting guard Cuttino Mobley, but the Nuggets balked. Nene might be out for the season after suffering a torn right anterior cruciate ligament in the Nov. 1 opener but still is held in high regard by NBA executives.
"We're focusing on him getting better," Nene's agent, Michael Coyne, said of the trade possibilities. "We're not worried about things out of our control."
Vandeweghe was said to have spent the weekend talking about possible trades with numerous teams.
There is one possible bit of urgency for the Nuggets.
Expiring today is a $1.52 million disabled-player exception acquired because of the loss of Nene. But Vandeweghe said the Nuggets "likely won't" use it.
 
Yeah, it's like an unspoken rule that you send your good players to the opposite conference when you trade them. The thinking is that you don't want that player in this case Peja to play you 4 times a year with the opportunity to burn the Kings on a different team.
 
Burrito06 said:
Yeah, it's like an unspoken rule that you send your good players to the opposite conference when you trade them. The thinking is that you don't want that player in this case Peja to play you 4 times a year with the opportunity to burn the Kings on a different team.

How often does Peja "burn" other teams? I don't see it as a problem.
 
D-Mass said:
How often does Peja "burn" other teams? I don't see it as a problem.

Peja is an offensive player.. Kings defense is weak.. I can see peja burning the Kings if he goes to another team.
 
So what you're saying is that if he goes to Denver he'll actually play a total of one full game against us over the course of the year?
 
If you want certain players, sometimes you can't always trade to the opposite conference. If Petrie thinks that Nene and/or Watson and/or Lenard will help the team, he'll do it regardless of conference.
 
D-Mass said:
If you want certain players, sometimes you can't always trade to the opposite conference. If Petrie thinks that Nene and/or Watson and/or Lenard will help the team, he'll do it regardless of conference.

exactly. We have to worry about what's best for us right now instead of focusing on one other team.
 
Personally, I'd rather see us do a Peja for Nene and Najera. While Watson intrigues with his penetration ability he's not the shooter Bibby is and would not see more than six minutes a game behind Mike so it's kind of a waste. Now, with Nene having ACL issues and unavailable for who knows how long at least Najera will give us some rebounding, hustle and toughness immediately. And when Nene returns Eddie is happy to do whatever is asked of him...including mugging the opposition! Nene, Brad and SAR would be a decent front court with Bonzi and Bibby in the backcourt. Works salary wise, too.
 
Didn't Petrie reiterate that Peja isn't going anywhere and he has had no discussions with anyone about Peja.

Once we get a threat inside (SAR maybe? Bonzi already) that warrants a double team, then the feed outs to Peja begin again and boom!! he gets his 18-20 a nite. Until then, if other teams don't double someone and just keep one guy on Peja, then his scoring will suffer as it has lately.

I also wonder if the high post point-center approach of the Kings doesn't somehow make it easier for other teams to guard Peja more. Hmmmm....
 
STF15 said:
Peja is an offensive player.. Kings defense is weak.. I can see peja burning the Kings if he goes to another team.
well he wont burn us in the fourth quarter i know that for sure. i think if we could trade peja for nene even though hes injured and watson that would be great. at least they can score in the SECOND HALF!
 
I don't want Nene. Not he has a torn ACL.

A) He wouldn't do us any good until he was healed, back in shape and THEN begin to learn the system.

B) I don't want another guy with knee problems. We've seen what happens with that already.
 
hE'D GET MORE THAN THAT

Rowdyone said:
While Watson intrigues with his penetration ability he's not the shooter Bibby is and would not see more than six minutes a game behind Mike so it's kind of a waste.

He would get much more than 6 minutes, B-Jax played anywhere from 16 to 32 minutes a game off the bench, watson like jackson could play the 2 along side bibby.

Not saying this is the ideal trade I am not for it, but I like watson.
 
If you think about it, all of Denver's frontline has injury problems in one way or another. Camby, Martin, Nene, Najara. Gee I wonder why they want to trade.
 
Oh, geez.

Talk about false leads...

ONE SENTENCE certainly doesn't make this about Peja.
 
Rowdyone said:
Personally, I'd rather see us do a Peja for Nene and Najera. While Watson intrigues with his penetration ability he's not the shooter Bibby is and would not see more than six minutes a game behind Mike so it's kind of a waste. Now, with Nene having ACL issues and unavailable for who knows how long at least Najera will give us some rebounding, hustle and toughness immediately. And when Nene returns Eddie is happy to do whatever is asked of him...including mugging the opposition! Nene, Brad and SAR would be a decent front court with Bonzi and Bibby in the backcourt. Works salary wise, too.
Watson would get more time than you think. Earl could be starting for a lot of teams in the league and would be a definite upgrade over Hart. I could see Earl getting 15-20 min per game with him and Bibby both on the court for long stretches just like when Bobby and Mike would play together. Taking Najera is a gamble. He's had knee problems in the past and although he is a tough player, he wouldn't see much time in our system. What makes you think that he would see time when Corlis and Skinner don't see time at all on the front line? Najera's offensive game is much worse than Corlis' and maybe even Skinner's.
 
Watson would play way more than 6 minutes... If you think he'll play only 6 mins, I don't know what you're smoking... Do that trade... Nene's still young, he should recover fairly well... And I'm in favor of what fillmoe said, to include lenard in the deal.
 
CruzDude said:
Didn't Petrie reiterate that Peja isn't going anywhere and he has had no discussions with anyone about Peja.

...

I believe Petrie said the same thing about a possible Webber trade last season.
 
Didn't we steal SAR from the Nets because they thought his knees were bad? Many vets have knee trouble and routinely ice their knees when possible. I've seen Najera play since his knee surgery and it hasn't seemed to affect his game a bit, still aggressive and has a decent shot to the top of the key...at least against us. And isn't this about trading Peja for Nene, who is on IR with a torn ACL and we're all of sudden concerned about Najera, a throw in to make salaries match, and his knees? And Bibby and Bobby on the floor, at 6'1", didn't happen all that often because their thing was low percentage long shots that were spectacular and backbreakers when they were falling but were routinely getting posted up on the other end for high percentage shots...great when the other team went small (a la Don Nelson) but infrequently initiated by RA. And let's see, I think I'll take Bonzi out for Watson...really? Watson couldn't earn playing time in Memphis and is playing behind Earl Boykins in Denver and we want him why?
 
Diabeticwonder said:
Watson would get more time than you think. Earl could be starting for a lot of teams in the league and would be a definite upgrade over Hart. I could see Earl getting 15-20 min per game with him and Bibby both on the court for long stretches just like when Bobby and Mike would play together.

Absolutely agreed, and Watson has improved his jumper nicely. Najera I don't think would go anyways, Karl loves him and is their energy guy off the bench. I'd probably do Peja for Nene/Watson/Lenard(?).

Here's something on Nene's progress:

Rocky Mountain News - Michael Coyne, agent for Nene, who suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in Denver's Nov. 1 opener and underwent surgery Nov. 21, said his client is off crutches and is "ahead of schedule" in rehabilitation.

Coyne can't say yet whether Nene might return this season.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/38349/19691231/nene_ahead_of_schedule_on_knee/

Rowdyone said:
Didn't we steal SAR from the Nets because they thought his knees were bad? And let's see, I think I'll take Bonzi out for Watson...really? Watson couldn't earn playing time in Memphis and is playing behind Earl Boykins in Denver and we want him why?

Watson played a lot in Memphis, and was one of the main guys in the heavy rotation.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/earl_watson/index.html

http://www.hoopshype.com/players/earl_watson.htm (a bit outdated)

We'd want Watson because he's athletic, can play on both ends well (as said, improved his jump shot), still young, not a bad playmaker, starting-caliber, and is proven.

Nets didn't take SAR because they found some scar tissue in one of his knees, and that was from when he had something done back in high school, and SAR said he hasn't had a problem with them in his career.
 
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Rowdyone said:
Didn't we steal SAR from the Nets because they thought his knees were bad? Many vets have knee trouble and routinely ice their knees when possible. I've seen Najera play since his knee surgery and it hasn't seemed to affect his game a bit, still aggressive and has a decent shot to the top of the key...at least against us. And isn't this about trading Peja for Nene, who is on IR with a torn ACL and we're all of sudden concerned about Najera, a throw in to make salaries match, and his knees? And Bibby and Bobby on the floor, at 6'1", didn't happen all that often because their thing was low percentage long shots that were spectacular and backbreakers when they were falling but were routinely getting posted up on the other end for high percentage shots...great when the other team went small (a la Don Nelson) but infrequently initiated by RA. And let's see, I think I'll take Bonzi out for Watson...really? Watson couldn't earn playing time in Memphis and is playing behind Earl Boykins in Denver and we want him why?
SAR has never had a problem with his knees in the NBA. The whole knee injury reasons why the Nets let SAR go was a cover up for the "buyer's remorse" they were having. Yes, Nene is on the shelf with a torn ACL, but in comparison to what Najeara had done it pales in comparison. Many a player has come back from a torn ACL to play at the same level as before, but Najera had the dreaded "microfracture" surgery that we as Kings fans should be extremely familiar with. While Najera has looked good at times, I know that he struggles with back to back games and is still in some pain. Besides, although Najera brings things to the table that we need, he probably wouldn't see any time because he can't shoot or pass.
 
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