Haley (2/20): Boozer will be a Laker.

bozzwell · Feb 21, 2005

piksi said:

What's wrong with making a sizable dent in LAL payroll while retired?

If he is traded it will be because Kupchak and Buss wisened up to the ex-King's (once a King always a KING!) devious little scheme. They will still have to send buy-out money with Vlade, too.

Variant · Feb 21, 2005

Hmm, seems like this was maybe just a crazy rumor after all? Sounds like only Haley has reported it (and his report was rehashed in an MSNBC article), but all the Utah radios and front office guys are denying it still.

KP · Feb 21, 2005

If this trade goes down maybe we could trade Tag back to Utah for Vlade?

AriesMar27 · Feb 21, 2005

KP said:

its not like we'll be losing anything...... is vlade even playing or is he still injured, i know that i live in la but i dont follow the lakers..... i'm gonna go check....

he is still listed as injured... on a side note.... phoenix is the only team without a significant injury to their roster......

albeitrue · Feb 21, 2005

KP said:

LOL!!!

Ding, ding, ding...yes, we have a TS (trade scenario) winner for most thoughtful AND most humurous. YAY, and the crowd goes wild!

albeitrue · Feb 21, 2005

bozzwell said:

And Vlade still gets the $$$, which is why he went in the first place.

jacobdrj · Feb 21, 2005

On the one hand, it can't get any worse for Utah, on the other hand, what a sorry trade for Utah. Slone should be traded to LA. See how Kobe likes that. Why not? They do it in Football.

AriesMar27 · Feb 21, 2005

hey if we send tag and daniels to utah we could take vlade and all will be right with the universe......

la sends..... george and butler to utah, divac to sac....
la gets.... boozer

utah sends... boozer to la
utah gets... george, butler, tag and daniels

sac sends.... tag and daniels to utah
sac gets... divac and a babysitter for peja...

divac eventually gets healthy by playoofs and he ad bobby help the kings win a championship..... webber and miller get a back up and someone to run the offense when they are on the bench and peja gets his shots.... we all win..... oh and sloan gets someone to blame everything on..... tag.

Gargamel · Feb 21, 2005

Starting to think this won't happen. Too many things continue not to jibe. Only source who'd know for sure would be Kupchak, and I doubt he's passing along that info to Haley.

Bricklayer · Feb 21, 2005

Gargamel said:

Query: Why/how exactly did Haley become the great mouthpiece of that organization? He's been yabbering all weekend. Is that his job description? Yabber-monkey?

ImaDougaholic24_7 · Feb 21, 2005

*lets out big sigh* Vlade goin to the Lakers was nothing but a big waste! I wish he would have just retired here with the Kings. Sacramento is his home

Gargamel · Feb 21, 2005

Bricklayer said:

He only purports to be the mouthpiece. I'll see what he sez tonight, see if he backs off of yesterday's claim.

G_M · Feb 21, 2005

This is being reported as a done deal, just awaitng league approval. So, Haley would be hip deep in it if this thing is not for real.

VF21 · Feb 21, 2005

Oh, I finally understand. Haley, your yabber-monkey, is a lot like Grant "Bobby was dogging it" Napear.

BTW, Gargamel - I am losing patience. Your avatar must go. Do not force me to take drastic action. You might not like the one I would pick to replace it.

VF21 · Feb 21, 2005

AriesMar27 said:

hey if we send tag and daniels to utah we could take vlade and all will be right with the universe......

la sends..... george and butler to utah, divac to sac....
la gets.... boozer

utah sends... boozer to la
utah gets... george, butler, tag and daniels

sac sends.... tag and daniels to utah
sac gets... divac and a babysitter for peja...

divac eventually gets healthy by playoofs and he ad bobby help the kings win a championship..... webber and miller get a back up and someone to run the offense when they are on the bench and peja gets his shots.... we all win..... oh and sloan gets someone to blame everything on..... tag.

Things that make you go Hmmmmmm....^^^^^

Gargamel · Feb 21, 2005

VF21 said:

We're nearing critical mass now. Rumors rampant on Lakerboards about Butler missing practice with a "stomach virus". Some people claims they heard an audio clip of George saying he expects to be traded. Maybe they get moved, but not for Booze. I dunno.

Pick me an avatar, VF. I'll use it.

Btw...feel like crap. I probably have the virus that Butler is supposed to have. Woke up at 8 this morning shivering so bad I took a hot shower and went back to sleep under 4 blankets. Sore throat, possible ear infection making my teeth hurt. I need a fix to deal with this pain, VF. Gimme a hit of that wacky poof dust you're always talking about.

VF21 · Feb 21, 2005

Gargamel said:

The "wacky poof dust" isn't for amateurs and its effects are pretty much irreversible. I don't think you really want poof dust. It sounds like what you need is some old-fashioned chicken soup.

You do realize you just really put the pressure on me with your acquiescence about the avatar. I'll go ahead and give you the one I had picked but you can change it back any time you like. EDIT: I can't find the picture!!! ACK!!!

Gargamel · Feb 21, 2005

VF21 said:

I need some old fashioned NyQuil I think. It's gonna look real good when I call in tomorrow after a 3-day holiday. That bastard Haley will ensure that I don't get any sleep tonight. I hated that guy royally when he played for the team, I might hate him even worse as an analyst.

Send er on over! Let's see it. :thumbsup:

KA_2 · Feb 22, 2005

Kingsgurl said:

Yup. In fact, here's some tidbits from Monday's Laker practice, per 570AM radio:

- Caron missed practice; listed with a "stomach virus"

- Devean spoke as if he knew he was traded. Although, this could be because he is always mentioned in trade rumors and knows management is trying to trade him.

- Vlade joked and said maybe he was just going to Utah for a day and then he would come back here, eluding to the Jazz eventually waiving him if the trade goes through.

Uh, yeah....

Kingsgurl · Feb 22, 2005

Hmm, I get the distinct impression TJ Simers doesn't really LIKE Haley

http://www.latimes.com/sports/columnists/la-sp-simers22feb22,0,6463034.column?coll=la-home-utilities

<H1>Haley's 'Scoop' on Trade Is Up Against the Clock

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T.J. Simers

February 22, 2005

I talked to Jack Haley and Mitch Kupchak on Monday, and now you know why I need to take so many days off.

The NBA trading deadline is Thursday, and Haley has already traded three Lakers, including Caron Butler, to Utah, predicting the announcement will be forthcoming in less than 24 hours, while Kupchak says he hasn't brought up Butler's name to Utah, and hasn't even talked to Utah about a trade.

Kupchak is the Lakers' general manager, and he made it clear he's done nothing, and I've been saying that for some time.

Maybe Phil Jackson is calling the shots in preparation for his return, talking to Jeanie, who is relaying it to her dad, who is sharing it with one of Dennis Rodman's babes, which explains how it got to Haley. These are the Lakers, you know, and anything is possible: even breaking news from Haley.

Haley says the big three-for-one Laker trade is going to happen any hour now, while Kupchak says not so fast. Who's telling the truth?

IT'S PRETTY well accepted around here that Haley knows nothing, so I wasn't surprised when he told the "Southern California Sports Report" audience Friday night he had learned something.

He reported from the NBA All-Star game festivities in Denver that a source told him, and keep in mind he still talks to Rodman, the Lakers were interested in making a three-for-one trade.

He didn't name the players or the other team involved, he said, making it the Big TV Tease, because his source asked him to keep it quiet. So for all we know the other team involved could have been Rodman's Long Beach Jam, and the Lakers were going to send three stiffs to Long Beach — they got plenty to pick from these days, and for some time now I've maintained that's where Devean George belongs.

On Saturday's TV report from Denver, Haley said the Lakers were also talking to Sacramento about trading Lamar Odom for Peja Stojakovic and an injured Bobby Jackson. He said he didn't think the Lakers had an interest in trading Odom, but "the trade was discussed," he said, "and it's out there."

As for the three-for-one trade, he said, "his hands were tied," and he could say no more. I'm wondering — is February one of those sweeps months on TV?

Sunday the sources were working overtime. TNT had its own source and reported the Lakers had offered Odom to Sacramento for Stojakovic, and who knew TNT got its news from watching the "Southern California Sports Report"?

Haley, meanwhile, was telling his audience that the Odom deal with Sacramento, as he had suggested earlier, was probably dead. I'm sure the Lakers were relieved to hear that.

At the end of the All-Star game, Haley reported it was a done deal — the Lakers were going to trade Butler, Vlade Divac and George to Utah for Carlos Boozer. There's probably an Emmy in this for Haley, or once again a seat on the bench.

"In my opinion," Haley said Monday by telephone in a follow-up to his Sunday night TV report, "it was a done deal. I said at the time the deal would happen in the next 24 or 48 hours, or by the [Thursday] trade deadline. I thought it would happen quickly. It could blow up, but I know what's gone on.

"And I stand by my report 110%."

Tick, tick, tick … less than 24 hours, Jack.

You know, I always worry about people who give 110% or stand by their reports 110%, which suggests they might have a tendency to embellish.

"I know what you're going to do," Haley said. "I didn't want to talk with you, because you're going to direct a personal attack at me … and not dare [tick] off the Lakers. My head boss asked me to talk with you, and I'm very confident in my report. Whether it happens or not is not important…."

Whether it happens or not is everything if you're a journalist, and if you treasure your credibility. Sorry, I know that's a personal attack.

As for Kupchak, you know me, I wouldn't dare (tick) off the Lakers, so I went easy, of course, on Mr. Milquetoast, the guy who is responsible for putting together this disappointing team that might not finish above .500.

"My turn, huh?" Kupchak said, and sooner or later everyone gets a visit from Page 2. "At this time, no, there is nothing about to happen. When it comes to trading, there are some deals you have to kind of nurture, but we don't even have a deal we're nurturing."

Haley says the Lakers are going to trade Butler & Co. to Utah, and there has also been talk about Odom and Sacramento.

"I can tell you we have not offered either player [Odom and Butler] in a trade, and have not talked to Sacramento or Utah about a trade," Kupchak said.

Tick, tick, tick … in time we're going to know who had it right.

"I don't think we're going to be able to improve at any of our starting positions by the trading deadline," Kupchak said. "I think we do have to add a significant player or two, well, at least one, but more than likely that will happen in the off-season.

"By significant player I mean one of our top six or seven players. If we can make a deal to help our playoff chances this season, not jeopardize the future and add a veteran with a year on his contract, that could help."

Kupchak said he'd like the team's new coach to have a say in the kind of players added or traded away, and because the team doesn't know who the coach will be, it's another reason why he doesn't expect the Lakers to make a blockbuster deal.

"Whatever we do, we don't want to jeopardize our youth and the direction we want to go with this team," he said. "We have three young players in Kobe [Bryant], Lamar and Caron to build around."

That doesn't sound like a GM on the brink of trading one of the big three, which you'd think would make the next few hours pretty nerve-racking for Haley.

"Not in the least," Haley said. "I know what I know."

Right now he seems to know more than anyone else … tick, tick, tick.

</H1>

KP · Feb 22, 2005

Kingsgurl said:

This article is so funny, everyone was saying this was a done deal yesterday and now its starting to seem more and more unlikely. The were two things I learned yesterday... #1 now I know who Haley is. and #2 Haley is(more than likely) an idiot and a liar.

L.A. Brian · Feb 22, 2005

Haley's a dopey-sounding analyst who loves to hear himself talk, kinda like the second coming of Bill Walton. He loves to bring up the fact he was a member of the Bulls championship squads. This scoop was his chance to shine, and (so far anyway) he has the kind of egg on his face that will take awhile to chisel off. Look in the article where he's worried Simers might (GASP!) direct a personal attack against him. After so many puff-pieces and fanboy reports from him, the mere fact that someone might lob some negativity in his direction over hard news he claims is 110% accurate makes his cajones shrink and retract. Sucking up is his job, and he needs to stick to that.

What would be better is if this trade actually was supposed to occur, and the resulting negative fallout (presumably from the Jazz contingency) from it being publically announced killed the deal. Then Lakers fans could conceivably blame Haley for killing it. Either way, Haley looks like a chump.

Watching the Fox So Cal sports report tonight after the Lakers game might be a little interesting. For those who don't know, the studios are within the Staples Center, and behind the set there's a window where people outside of Staples can stand and watch what's going on. Maybe there'll be an anti-Haley sign or two, or perhaps a "Haley sucks" chant?

Gargamel · Feb 22, 2005

KP said:

In honesty, there was probably validity to the rumor. The idiot part was Haley definitively saying the trade would happen instead of saying it could "likely" happen.

Gargamel · Feb 22, 2005

I just heard that Boozer is expected to miss Utah's game on Wed. I find it amusing that Butler, Boozer, and Peja will have missed their first game after all the rumors.

funsc · Feb 22, 2005

Gargamel said:

Too bad... Go Jazz! beat the Mavs, or at least runout them!

KA_2 · Feb 23, 2005

Haley's not a very intelligent guy. But I hope Vlade is traded, that way he'll be bought out, waived, and come back just in time for the playoffs to make some key flops.

KingKong · Feb 23, 2005

KA_2 said:

Vlade always saved his best flops for Shaq. Too bad he wont be able to use them against him.

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