Greg Ostertag
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Good game by Tag, considering he hasn't had any playing time at all lately it might have even been a great game. He slowed down a lot after that initial flurry to start the game but he set the tone. He also got rejected very badly while going to the basket, but so did Bard and Webb when we played them. They have some good shotblockers(it may be Portlands only real strength at this point). We do have to make due with Tag for the time being and I really appreciated the fact he was ready to play. I think his wind will come around as long as he can get in there, with Skinner out we just can't afford to have him sit on the bench the entire game. Good job Tag.
He's basically our Shawn Bradley. If you don't have anyone else you can play, throw him in there. Even if he gets "in shape" (wonder if he has ever been in shape in his entire NBA career), I don't think he should ever exceed say 15 minutes. He is a player of very diminishing returns. That was about as good as we could ever expect him to play last night in the first few minutes and I still don't think he had the effect that others on this board seem to think he has (incredible shotblocking, rebounding and intimidation). The only players who might have shied away from the lane with him in the game were the mini-guards stoudemire and telfair.
Anyways, I clearly don't think the man can contribute a whole lot other than being a big body but am willing to be proven wrong. I certainly don't think he had a whole lot to do with the Kings winning last night...that was on Peja hitting some shots and the Trailblazers being one of the worst teams in the NBA right now.
Anyways, I clearly don't think the man can contribute a whole lot other than being a big body but am willing to be proven wrong. I certainly don't think he had a whole lot to do with the Kings winning last night...that was on Peja hitting some shots and the Trailblazers being one of the worst teams in the NBA right now.
Tag is not going to get the Kings a Triple Double or even score more than 10 points unless of course the other team decides not to guard him!
What Tag will bring is enough prescence to stop the players from running a layup drill on the Kings, like what happened against the warriors.
I do not think Tag should be starting, but he should be a good back up to bring in with skinner at the same time.
What Tag will bring is enough prescence to stop the players from running a layup drill on the Kings, like what happened against the warriors.
I do not think Tag should be starting, but he should be a good back up to bring in with skinner at the same time.
One thing is for sure...while Brad's out, we need Tag in there to help out Skinner. No more of these games where the seat is sewn to his shorts, please, Adelman. Every time 'Tag sits out an entire game, I wonder why we gave Vlade's money to him and let Vlade walk. An injured Vlade would be of more use to this team than a out-of-shape Greg Ostertag, simply for the father figure role- I truly believe this, and I'm holding out hope that Divac returns to us over the summer, whether it's as a player or as part of the coaching staff.
It is 2005 now right? I hope you are not making a case for him being a strong center now?!? If so, why didn't anyone else want him this summer? Including the Jazz who don't have anything at the center position now that I am aware of...
Disregarding that, 97-98 was in the era (the very end of that era) in which there were still some centers that played with their back to the basket in this league. Not many, and certainly not in the finals of those years. There were also many other big unskilled oafs in the league that were in there to foul and rebound that you could put Tag on. Tag could be somewhat useful in that instance since he was (and is) also a big oaf for the most part. Nowadays, how many centers are there in the league? Out of that number, how many get more than 2 or 3 post-up opportunities down low per night? Because that is where is strength lies. That and somewhat rebounding and shotblocking. Now a lot of the centers in the league are really just power forwards playing down low. They are too quick for him.
Tonight against the Mavs for example, who does Tag guard? Sure, put him in when Bradley is in the game...they cancel each other out. Who else? Henderson?
I'm agreeing that, at this point, he should get some run due to injuries...but no more than 10-15 minutes (heck, he only averages ~20 minutes per game for his career anyways). That should also be the case if everyone gets healthy *when the matchups make sense*. Bradley, Shaq, Yao, Duncan, (there will never be another list in the history of mankind that places Bradley's name anywhere near the other three in that list) we should probably have Tag take 10 minutes or so against these guys just to throw another body at them...but that's it.
Maybe I am so down on Tag because I took pride in the fact taht the Kings always had 5 guys on the floor that were skilled players. They could all shoot/dribble/pass etc. And to think that we have fallen so far that we are now crying out for a player that I watched in warmups @ Dallas miss 90% of the shots he took (including layups and freethrows, short hooks, etc) is just sad to me.
But don't let me rain on everyone else's GO parade...
Disregarding that, 97-98 was in the era (the very end of that era) in which there were still some centers that played with their back to the basket in this league. Not many, and certainly not in the finals of those years. There were also many other big unskilled oafs in the league that were in there to foul and rebound that you could put Tag on. Tag could be somewhat useful in that instance since he was (and is) also a big oaf for the most part. Nowadays, how many centers are there in the league? Out of that number, how many get more than 2 or 3 post-up opportunities down low per night? Because that is where is strength lies. That and somewhat rebounding and shotblocking. Now a lot of the centers in the league are really just power forwards playing down low. They are too quick for him.
Tonight against the Mavs for example, who does Tag guard? Sure, put him in when Bradley is in the game...they cancel each other out. Who else? Henderson?
I'm agreeing that, at this point, he should get some run due to injuries...but no more than 10-15 minutes (heck, he only averages ~20 minutes per game for his career anyways). That should also be the case if everyone gets healthy *when the matchups make sense*. Bradley, Shaq, Yao, Duncan, (there will never be another list in the history of mankind that places Bradley's name anywhere near the other three in that list) we should probably have Tag take 10 minutes or so against these guys just to throw another body at them...but that's it.
Maybe I am so down on Tag because I took pride in the fact taht the Kings always had 5 guys on the floor that were skilled players. They could all shoot/dribble/pass etc. And to think that we have fallen so far that we are now crying out for a player that I watched in warmups @ Dallas miss 90% of the shots he took (including layups and freethrows, short hooks, etc) is just sad to me.
But don't let me rain on everyone else's GO parade...
"Crying out for a player"? Not exactly. NO one expected Tag to come in and be a premiere starter. We looked to him to provide some relief for Brad who we idiotically didn't count on getting injured. (Silly us...)
The guy, for whatever reasons known or unknown, had been relegated to the RA Doghouse, and it's not a nice place for a player to be. Just ask Gerald Wallace. In the Blazer game, he went a long way towards redeeming himself. RA said as much.
There's nothing wrong with showing a little support for Tag. And there's certainly nothing wrong with being able to express a little happiness about something good for a change.
EDIT: P.S. Having said all that, I have to admit to wanting to get back to the days when all 5 guys on the court were capable of exploding for instant excitement, too.
The guy, for whatever reasons known or unknown, had been relegated to the RA Doghouse, and it's not a nice place for a player to be. Just ask Gerald Wallace. In the Blazer game, he went a long way towards redeeming himself. RA said as much.
There's nothing wrong with showing a little support for Tag. And there's certainly nothing wrong with being able to express a little happiness about something good for a change.
EDIT: P.S. Having said all that, I have to admit to wanting to get back to the days when all 5 guys on the court were capable of exploding for instant excitement, too.
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