Grant Napear/Jim Kozimor

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Sachornet

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Has anyone who has listened to KHTK over the years noticed that Grant and Koz do not like each other at all? Grant never acknowledges Koz except on the Kings Broadcast. And if you listen to Koz's showgram, he is always taking shots at Grant (even though he claims he never listens to Grant's show). Koz said something to the effect of "If you weren't complaing about C Webb's play when he was here, you better not be doing it now when he's 3,000 miles away. If you are, you've got no credibility with me" I'm curious as to why Koz would want to air this out over the air even though he never specifically mentions Grant.

Anyone have any idea how these guys are able to work together on the Kings broadcast and on the same radio station when they obviously do not like each other?
 
I noticed the same thing. Actually, Koz and Grant use to do a "cross-talk" show several years gao where they were on the air for an hour together.

Not sure what happened to cause the animosity but it seems to be there.
 
ooo this sounds like a rather juicy beef

Ive never noticed...but thats only cuz i live in CT can't listen to the radio and the only time I see Koz and Grant is on the occasional Kings broadcast that LP likes to show
 
I get Grant and Koz having two different personalities and styles, but how did it ever get to the point where Koz is willing to talk about them subtly over the air?

Another reference Koz made last week on his show was that he finds it funny how these same people who are bashing Webber have gone up to Chris in the past and have asked for his autograph... and even had their kids ask for autographs.

What does Koz have to gain by taking these shots at Grant over the air?
 
Sachornet said:
Anyone have any idea how these guys are able to work together on the Kings broadcast and on the same radio station when they obviously do not like each other?
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Yep.

That's because Grant Napear (talk-show host and game broadcaster) and Jim Kozimor (talk-show host and color commentator for pre- and post-game activities) are "Personalities." Their real personas are not necessarily anywhere close to what you hear on the radio or see on TV.
 
Sachornet said:
I get Grant and Koz having two different personalities and styles, but how did it ever get to the point where Koz is willing to talk about them subtly over the air?

Another reference Koz made last week on his show was that he finds it funny how these same people who are bashing Webber have gone up to Chris in the past and have asked for his autograph... and even had their kids ask for autographs.

What does Koz have to gain by taking these shots at Grant over the air?
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Are you writing a sports psychology paper or something?

I would like to see transcripts of these alleged quotes before I put too much stake in them.

Sorry, but it seems like you're trying to stir things up here that are totally without real basis in fact.
 
Their real personas are not necessarily anywhere close to what you hear on the radio or see on TV.
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Actually my dad was in a bar, and Koz was there. He said Koz was acted the same way in person as he does during the Showgram...Life of the party.
 
SLAB said:
Actually my dad was in a bar, and Koz was there. He said Koz was acted the same way in person as he does during the Showgram...Life of the party.
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I've also met Koz several times and he's always pretty much the same. I guess I should have been more clear...

I meant that any perceived hostility on the air between Grant and Kox is most likely not carried on off the air. I strongly suspect any sniping is done for entertainment value alone.
 
My impression from what little I hear of their shows is that Napear is more outspoken and is not afraid to tear into something or someone when he feels like it, and often times it probably goes a bit overboard to drive his point home (example - Bobby Jackson and last year's playoffs). Kozimor is more of a positive realist who doesn't feel the need to loudly or strongly criticize people, but still has a little bit of an opinion on things, which is why he makes little remarks about others, like Napear, who take their criticisms too far.
 
VF21 said:
I've also met Koz several times and he's always pretty much the same. I guess I should have been more clear...

I meant that any perceived hostility on the air between Grant and Kox is most likely not carried on off the air. I strongly suspect any sniping is done for entertainment value alone.
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To be fair,Koz doesn't spend all the time on his show making, what I perceive to be, shots at Grant. And it's true that I know nothing more than what I hear over the air. I just have a gut feeling that it does carry off the air and I think if anyone heard the comments Koz made that I referred to earlier, it might validate that belief. Did anyone else hear those comments Koz made last week? Or am I just reading in to this way too much?
 
As I said, I'd like to see the transcripts of the comments because I honestly believe you're reading way too much into them.

If you know nothing more than what you hear on the air, then I cannot imagine why you'd presume whatever it is you think exists would carry over off the air.

As far as Koz making a comment about Grant getting an autograph, that's just laughable. I don't see Grant Napear going up to Chris or any other King and asking for them to sign his shirt or anything. ;)
 
uolj said:
My impression from what little I hear of their shows is that Napear is more outspoken and is not afraid to tear into something or someone when he feels like it, and often times it probably goes a bit overboard to drive his point home (example - Bobby Jackson and last year's playoffs). Kozimor is more of a positive realist who doesn't feel the need to loudly or strongly criticize people, but still has a little bit of an opinion on things, which is why he makes little remarks about others, like Napear, who take their criticisms too far.
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100% Agree...In any case, I hardly listen anymore; the Echo ruined the show. That guy is bad, horrible, makes my ears bleed, not worth listening, the worst move by KHTK ever! Did I mention how much I do not like him?
 
I noticed it all the way back in 99/00. That first year of the "new Kings" Grant and Kozimor actually worked together on the air as play-by-play and analyst. The chemistry seemed ok, but that only lasted for that one lockout shortened season. Koz was gone from the tv team when the 99-2000 season started. As has already been mentioned, they had the Crosstalk show for a while, I always felt there was usually a little bit of underlying animosity there... mostly from Grant's side. I used to joke about it, how they don't like eachother. Maybe it's an act, maybe not. I haven't listened to KHTK very much in the last 2 years, so I don't know if it's the same or less "snippy" betweent he two.
 
Come to think of it, it is funny is to hear all of the KHTK personalities take shots at each other, some in fun and others, you'd have to wonder. You can definetly tell the difference between the guys employed by MSE and those who are not.
 
VF21 said:
As I said, I'd like to see the transcripts of the comments because I honestly believe you're reading way too much into them.
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No you are not reading way too much into them. Because I have felt this way for a long time. I always wanted to bring it up on this forum, but thought it was way too petty of me to disect a relationship between two men :o. The thing that is so obvious is that neither of these guys promote the others show. And I have heard each of them express feelings and show signs of a working relationship with others on the station, except with each other. And this seems to have been going on now for years.

I think Grant Napear is a pompous horse's rear end. He is easily the most arrogant SOB in Sacramento broadcasting IMHO. Kozimor seems to be so much more easy going, light hearted. So much easier to have a conversation with.

But yes, there is something personal there. This from a non-professional people watcher but one who listens to and reads everything about the Kings.
 
I haven't listened to either of their shows in ages, but I used to listen to Sports Talk (Some of it, at least) and every ShowGram that was aired.

I remember this one time when Koz said something about Grant, I believe it was about Jackson not having enough heart to return, completly forgot what he said , though...OH, and this other time, when Grant said one of the reasons the Kings lost was because of their sweatbands (Throwback night sometime last year), Koz said something like "I hope he was joking, because that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard."

They are just clashing personalities...Grant seems like a hard@$$ who is overopinionated, and feels he is always right, while Koz just seems to be a cool person.
 
PixelPusher said:
I knew a guy who was a psych major at Sac State who wrote a thesis paper on the sports talk radio phenonenom.
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I know FOR A FACT that if sachornet joined this board to pose a question so he could use the results in a paper, he wouldn't be the first person to do so.

;)
 
If this is true all I've got to say is me and Koz have alot in common. Grant actually mentioned the fact that C-Webb only had 5 points tonight during the frickin Kings game!
 
SLAB said:
I haven't listened to either of their shows in ages, but I used to listen to Sports Talk (Some of it, at least) and every ShowGram that was aired.

I remember this one time when Koz said something about Grant, I believe it was about Jackson not having enough heart to return, completly forgot what he said , though...OH, and this other time, when Grant said one of the reasons the Kings lost was because of their sweatbands (Throwback night sometime last year), Koz said something like "I hope he was joking, because that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard."

They are just clashing personalities...Grant seems like a hard@$$ who is overopinionated, and feels he is always right, while Koz just seems to be a cool person.
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I can confirm both of these incedents Slab is talking about. It is real subtle, which points to the fact it might be more real. If it was just for show it would be way more obvious. I've def picked up on the same thing though, especially during Bobbys injury last year.
 
uolj said:
My impression from what little I hear of their shows is that Napear is more outspoken and is not afraid to tear into something or someone when he feels like it, and often times it probably goes a bit overboard to drive his point home (example - Bobby Jackson and last year's playoffs). Kozimor is more of a positive realist who doesn't feel the need to loudly or strongly criticize people, but still has a little bit of an opinion on things, which is why he makes little remarks about others, like Napear, who take their criticisms too far.
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I agree somewhat.

I like Koz but he takes on the buttkisser role way too much. He seems to love to take that role. To the point it can get really irritating and he'll be afraid to have an opinion. Ive wanted to call Koz and tell him to "Have a freakin opinion at times". Same with Coach T with regards to the Maloofs and the coaching staff. He has his lips attatched to the Maloofs derrier's.

Id rather have Grant then say "Monty the Moron" or as coach T calls him "The Waiter"..lol I still can tolerate Grant.. Well pretty much.


I think the rift between Koz and Grant is overblown. Who cares whether they like eachhother or not? I imagine its not great but not bad either. Btw The Rise Guys mntioned they got an email about this very thing yesterday. Hmm ya think this guy emailed them too about this?:p
 
I don't care whether they like each other or not. I, personally, do not like Grant. I have not liked his arrogant a** for years. On the other hand, I like Koz a lot. I make it a point to stop and say hi (and chat a bit) with Koz whenever I am in town and at a Kings or Monarchs game. BTW - for those who don't know....Koz does the PBP for the Monarchs, besides the work he does for the Kings, and does an excellent job...IMO.
 
Grant always comes across as if he has a lot of animosity... even with Jerry much of the time it always looks as if he's barely tolerating him with a big fake cheesy smile...

Probably partially accurate, but it's just Grant's personality.
 
I'm not a Grant lover, but I'm also not a Grant hater......but just a thought. I remember early on in Koz's tenure at KHTK when Grant went on vacation or something and Koz sub'd for him. Now say what you want about Grant, but the guys keeps the focus on sports.....no other bs. Well Koz took it upon himself to do a show that rivaled Don and Mike....or the Rise Boys......lots of inappropraiate references and "guy" humor. It was awful. when Grant came back the next broadcast he was livid. I think the Grant/Koz love affair was over right then and there. And IMHO, I think Grant was right.
 
FullAB said:
I'm not a Grant lover, but I'm also not a Grant hater......but just a thought. I remember early on in Koz's tenure at KHTK when Grant went on vacation or something and Koz sub'd for him. Now say what you want about Grant, but the guys keeps the focus on sports.....no other bs. Well Koz took it upon himself to do a show that rivaled Don and Mike....or the Rise Boys......lots of inappropraiate references and "guy" humor. It was awful. when Grant came back the next broadcast he was livid. I think the Grant/Koz love affair was over right then and there. And IMHO, I think Grant was right.
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In these times, you can not have a straight sports show and keep your ratings up. That is why if you listen to Grant's show when he is not there, there is a lot more flow and more variety with all different types of callers. But when Grant is there with Lamb or even by himself, there are a lot less callers and a lot less variety. I'm sorry I could not listen to a sports show that was strictly statistics and what happens between the lines. That is why i like:

Jim Kozimor
Jim Rome
Rick Barry and Rod Brooks
JT the Brick
They all seem to be more well rounded people that can branch off into other topics, and keep their shows "sports themed".

The thing that I do not like about Grant and his show is that he can show his bias without saying anything. That is why I know he did not like Chris Webber, regardless of what he said. He is not a fan of Bobby Jackson, Cutino Mobley.

OH!!! But he loves Peja Stojakovich, Greg Ostertagg, Darius Songaila, Vlade Divac, Doug Christie.
 
Napear is ok, sometimes he does go overboard but his strong opinions on things always make for entertainment most the times

I dunno about Koz...I once watched a pregame show of him (the one where they had that horn guy) and he was trying to act all hip with raunchy comments here and there ..it seemed pretty fake coming from him... =/
 
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